simonwoof
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Q: Auto hiding apps in mountain lion and now mavericks

Hi All

 

so frustrated by this

 

a couple of upgrades ago apps started to auto-hide after not being front

this is very annoying and i cant seem to find any way to stop it

 

for eg i am multitasking in safari and grabbing text intyo text wranglker or excel or watching a movie and the other apps after about 30 secs auto hide

 

Any help appreciated

 

OS Mavericks

8gb ram i7 processor

MBP

 

S

OS X Mavericks (10.9.1)

Posted on Dec 28, 2013 2:38 AM

by Linc Davis,Solvedanswer
Linc Davis Linc Davis
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A:

The menu bar items are not determined by the login items.

Posted on Dec 29, 2013 5:40 PM

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  • by simonwoof,

    simonwoof simonwoof Dec 28, 2013 9:11 PM in response to simonwoof
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    Dec 28, 2013 9:11 PM in response to simonwoof

    Sorry Linc mis-understood you there

     

    in  SAFE MODE

     

    behaviour still happening

     

    apps going into auto hide when not front

     

    S

  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Dec 28, 2013 9:45 PM in response to simonwoof
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    Dec 28, 2013 9:45 PM in response to simonwoof

    I don't know whether I understand your answers. We have to be crystal clear, or there's no chance of solving this problem.

     

    1. You did, or did not, have the problem while in safe mode and logged in to your account?

     

    2. You did, or did not, have the problem while logged in to the guest account?

     

    If you're not 100% sure, please repeat the tests.

  • by simonwoof,

    simonwoof simonwoof Dec 28, 2013 9:51 PM in response to Linc Davis
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    Dec 28, 2013 9:51 PM in response to Linc Davis

    1. Problem remains in safe mode on my account

    2. Guest account NO problem

     

    100% sure

  • by etresoft,

    etresoft etresoft Dec 29, 2013 6:47 AM in response to simonwoof
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    Dec 29, 2013 6:47 AM in response to simonwoof

    Automatic Termination is a relatively recent feature of OS X. Although still supported, Word and Excel may be at end of life. They are built against an old version of the OS and do not support modern OS features. Are you using multiple spaces? Office really gets confused by Spaces.

  • by Linc Davis,Helpful

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Dec 29, 2013 8:50 AM in response to simonwoof
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    Dec 29, 2013 8:50 AM in response to simonwoof

    You wrote in your original question that the background applications are hidden, not right away, but after a delay of 30 seconds. Are you sure that's accurate?

     

    Are all applications affected, or only some?

     

    When the applications are hidden, do you still see a white dot underneath their Dock icon, indicating that they're running?

  • by simonwoof,

    simonwoof simonwoof Dec 29, 2013 4:33 PM in response to Linc Davis
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    Dec 29, 2013 4:33 PM in response to Linc Davis

    it is about 45-50 seconds

     

    all the apps that i have tested hide (outlook, itunes, safari, readkit, VLC)

     

    yes the white dot is still there

     

    S

  • by simonwoof,

    simonwoof simonwoof Dec 29, 2013 4:37 PM in response to etresoft
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    Dec 29, 2013 4:37 PM in response to etresoft

    Hi etresoft

     

    I dont use spaces and it is effecting all apps pretty much even VLC (with "keep on top" preference ticked)

     

    i have the latest versions of office(2011) i believe this version was rewritten from the ground up in cocoa

     

    S

  • by Linc Davis,Helpful

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Dec 29, 2013 4:59 PM in response to simonwoof
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    Dec 29, 2013 4:59 PM in response to simonwoof

    Taking this story at face value, I can't make any sense out of it. On the other hand, you have a lot of strange-looking login items, and it would make a lot of sense if one of them was causing the problem. So I question whether you really did test in safe mode.

    Back up all data.

    Triple-click anywhere in the line below on this page to select it:

    ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.loginitems.plist


    Right-click or control-click the line and select

    Services ▹ Reveal in Finder (or just Reveal)

    from the contextual menu.* A folder should open with an item selected. Move the selected item to the Desktop, leaving the window open. Log out, log back in, and test. If there's no change, quit again and put the item you moved back where it was, overwriting the one that may have been created in its place. Otherwise, delete the item you moved. Recreate your list of login items a few at a time, testing at each step, until you find the culprit.

    *If you don't see the contextual menu item, copy the selected text to the Clipboard by pressing the key combination command-C. In the Finder, select

    Go ▹ Go to Folder...

    from the menu bar, paste into the box that opens (command-V). You won't see what you pasted because a line break is included. Press return.

  • by simonwoof,

    simonwoof simonwoof Dec 29, 2013 5:16 PM in response to Linc Davis
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    Dec 29, 2013 5:16 PM in response to Linc Davis

    will give it a go

     

    i had to turn off back to mymac to get into safe mode but i got the very slow start up (with the progress bar) and crappy graphics as well

     

    interestingly it had a number of my login items loaded

     

    I will give this a go thanks again

     

    S

  • by simonwoof,

    simonwoof simonwoof Dec 29, 2013 5:33 PM in response to simonwoof
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    Dec 29, 2013 5:33 PM in response to simonwoof

    well someting strange has happened

     

    i removed the login items <com.apple.loginitems.plist> placed on the desktop

     

    restarted and checked the login items

     

    Users___Groups-5.png

     

    but these are in my menubar

     

    Screenshot_30_12_2013_12_25.png

    is it possible that there are other plist's?

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Dec 29, 2013 5:39 PM in response to simonwoof
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    Dec 29, 2013 5:39 PM in response to simonwoof

    Evernote, etc. all (or most) have 'Show In Menu Bar' options in their individual preferences to check. Go through them all and uncheck that option.

     

    Pete

  • by Linc Davis,Solvedanswer

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Dec 29, 2013 5:40 PM in response to simonwoof
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    Dec 29, 2013 5:40 PM in response to simonwoof

    The menu bar items are not determined by the login items.

  • by simonwoof,

    simonwoof simonwoof Dec 29, 2013 5:58 PM in response to petermac87
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    Dec 29, 2013 5:58 PM in response to petermac87

    Thanks petermac87

     

    obviously there is some application launching process for them to be in the menu bar really trying to eliminate everything to figure out what is causing my problem behaviour

     

    S

  • by simonwoof,

    simonwoof simonwoof Dec 29, 2013 5:59 PM in response to Linc Davis
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    Dec 29, 2013 5:59 PM in response to Linc Davis

    understood

     

    well i am happy to say

     

    behaviour now stopped

     

    looks like a startup itme or plist corruption?

     

    thank you Linc and others for the help much appreciated

     

    S

  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Dec 29, 2013 6:08 PM in response to simonwoof
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    Dec 29, 2013 6:08 PM in response to simonwoof

    One of the login items is causing the problem. Finding out which one is a tedious process of elimination.

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