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Trying to understand PROJECTS in 10.1, can someone please help?

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Psilocybe Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
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Jan 1, 2014 10:58 PM

Rebuilding Final Cut Pro X around an Aperture-like self-contained database is a great concept, I love it. I already notice faster performance as a result and moving libraries around many drives is very convenient.

 

However there's one MASSIVE ISSUE that I'm experiencing that I don't know how to navigate around. It's quite simple really:

 

Projects used to be viewable all at once in the Project Library, however now Projects live INSIDE the Events, which are in turn INSIDE Libraries. The only way to view a project is to select the LIBRARY > EVENT > SCROLL UP IN CLIP WINDOW > PROJECTS    like so:

 

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So my two curious questions are:

 

1. HOW THE **** DO YOU VIEW ALL THE PROJECTS AT ONCE?

2. HOW THE **** DO YOU VIEW ALL THE PROJECTS AT ONCE IF YOU HAVE 430 LIBRARIES AND 900 EVENTS?

 

Well, I'm sure I'm just missing something VERY obvious here. Any help would be awesomely appreciated! : )

 

Graham

  • babylonslim Level 2 Level 2 (290 points)

       I just recently broke down and switched from FCP 4-7.  I have waited to download and install 10.1 - I always wait.

    That said, I have a couple of questions... Why do you need so many Projects?  When I create a project, it is a means to an end - a master file "movie" (which I put into storage so I can later make other iterations of it using QT Pro &/or MpegStream Clip. Then I delete the projects and put some of the best clips in deep storage. Done.  I use the coolness of Mac's unix-face, i.e., the Finder to manage Movie storage as opposed to doing it inside of an app that hobbles the power of the OS.

      Why don't you "save" master files and if need be open those in FCP X each time you wanna fiddle with 'em?  Why save Project Files once the deed is done? I just don't get it.  What you are doing is like saving Word Projects inside of Word, creating .docs and - what? Losing them too?  Break it down for me, like you are talking to a child... because I really wanna know why so many use "apps" to file manage as opposed to the OS.

  • babylonslim Level 2 Level 2 (290 points)

    Yep, I gorcha.  Still, my point is to make a master file Movie, save it seperate. One can always import it into the app and work on it with the original clips stored in the fridge. Point is, your situation is what it is.  Since so many are having very similar issues, it will be no time al all until someone makes a 3rd party add-on for shuffling the deck.

    I was hoping to persuade you to change your workflow to move on in a sane way from here.  I recall a thread where folks were control clicking on the Library created by the upgrade, /show package contents   to recover projects, no? It works when doing it on Iphoto Library.

      The only other option that you have is to try to persuade APPLE to give you a link to the old version so you can re-order your world. ( I have 10.9 zipped and stashed for when I get done with this 2 hrs of multicam Projects - just in case.) But I am waiting.

       Good Luck...

  • babylonslim Level 2 Level 2 (290 points)

    rt. click on (in the Finder) Library, show package contents, copy & paste all your projects to another drive and re-oder... ??

  • Alchroma Level 6 Level 6 (16,875 points)

    If you want to Save a Project and come back to edit it later, right click the Project icon and select Duplicate Project  as Snapshot.

    This is different to Duplicate Project.

    It allows you to come back and start editing from the point the Snapshot was created even if the original Project has been altered,

    Maybe think "Save AS" if we are talking Word Processing.

     

    And yes the Snapshot is a small file replicating the decision list rather than duplication real media files.

     

    Some worthwhile reading:

    http://www.apple.com/final-cut-pro/docs/Media_Management.pdf

     

    Al

  • BenB Level 5 Level 5 (7,535 points)

    Strongly suggest a training course such as macProVideo to understand the full workflow.

    Also, these may or may not help, both parts 1 and 2.

    http://www.macprovideo.com/hub/final-cut/fcp-x-101-upgrade-guide-to-libraries-pa rt-1

     

    What you need to do is forget how you used to think about and use Events and Projects.  Libraries give us "more" options for media management.  Projects always had a Default Event.  The connection is just more solid now.  Simply re-think your management.  If you're working on one production, and have 900 events, something is wrong with your media management plan.  Rethink how your organizing.  Maybe fewer Events, more Keyword/Smart Search collections.

     

    Most all of the member in my local FCP users group, once they wrap their heads around what a Library is, are actually liking it better now.

  • Tom Wolsky Level 10 Level 10 (104,605 points)

    1.  Dailies go in events

    2.  You don't organize in projects. You edit in projects. Learn how to organize in FCP.

    3. A master file is a finished movie ready for delivery. It is not an organizing or editing tool.

     

    You do not understand the basics. You need to get some training.

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