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  • 240. Re: How to remove dropout jeep
    thomas_r. Level 7 Level 7 (27,985 points)

    to say such a thing doesnt exist is inaccurate, as noted in your FinFisher example.

     

    To imply that something does exist, without any evidence at all, isn't reasonable. There are some very good reasons to believe that a remote access hack does not exist, such as the iOS security model and the close scrutiny of numerous security companies.

     

    PS: I wouldnt hang up to much on the physical access point either. That is the most speculative point being made.

     

    Not at all. It's pretty much a given that physical access can compromise an iOS device - or any other kind of device - completely. The speculative part is that physical access is not required. There's no evidence at all for that.

  • 241. Re: How to remove dropout jeep
    piersonk Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    thomas_r. wrote:

     

    to say such a thing doesnt exist is inaccurate, as noted in your FinFisher example.

     

    To imply that something does exist, without any evidence at all, isn't reasonable. There are some very good reasons to believe that a remote access hack does not exist, such as the iOS security model and the close scrutiny of numerous security companies.

     

    PS: I wouldnt hang up to much on the physical access point either. That is the most speculative point being made.

     

    Not at all. It's pretty much a given that physical access can compromise an iOS device - or any other kind of device - completely. The speculative part is that physical access is not required. There's no evidence at all for that.

     

    Your point with FinFinder was that it does exist. Im not implying it exists, you are.

     

    You know what, you guys are right. What am I thinking? This is ludicrous.

     

    Do you guys have any room in the sand for my head too or are all the head holes taken?

  • 242. Re: How to remove dropout jeep
    thomas_r. Level 7 Level 7 (27,985 points)

    You seem to be confusing two different things. An exploit that requires physical access is unimpressive. This is what FinFisher is, and this is what the evidence says that DROPOUTJEEP is. An exploit that can be taken advantage of remotely is currently unknown, and no evidence exists that there is such a thing.

  • 243. Re: How to remove dropout jeep
    piersonk Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Let's get one thing straight. I'm not confused.

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