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Mavericks Finder - how default to "double click opens new window"?

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  • Adam Woodhams Calculating status...

    petermac87 wrote:

     

    ...I do not know why you keep jumping in and repeating yourself...

    Really?

    From you?

     

    According to your summation of the way these forums operate pete users are not entitled to express opinions if they differ from Apples or yours.

     

    As I have stated on a number of occasions I have sent feedback to Apple by both electronic feedback form and by post.
    And I know this will come as a surprise to you but I did know about feedback forms before you repeated ad-nauseam that I should use the feedback form.

     

    Both yourself & Kurt Lang would do well to be courteous and remember that just because an issue does not effect you does not mean that the issue does not exist.

     

    You pete just enjoy trying to shut threads down, you can't leave them without having the last word, and you love baiting people.

    What you did in a thread before Christmas, baiting and taunting somebody who expressed different religious views to yourself, was TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE behaviour and spoke volumes about your character.

  • petermac87 Level 5 Level 5 (4,065 points)

    Adam Woodhams wrote:

     

    What you did in a thread before Christmas, baiting and taunting somebody who expressed different religious views to yourself, was TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE behaviour and spoke volumes about your character.

    I do not know what you are refering to or it's relevance to this thread.

     

    If that were the case, I would have been in breach of the TOU and removed from the forums.

     

    Cheers

     

    Pete

  • Kurt Lang Level 7 Level 7 (31,490 points)

    I am the OP

    Yes, I know that. Please read the top couple of lines of each post to see who a person is responding to. I mentioned you in the third person because I was talking to Adam.

    what you have explained how to do is not what I am looking to do

    Please explain how it is not. You asked how you can use one hand (presumably with the mouse) to double click a folder and have it open in its own window. I fully explained it's the very simple step of hiding the Toolbar, which also hides the sidebar. Once you do that, all further use of that folder and any subfolders which have been set that way will do exactly what you are asking for.

     

    How does that not answer your question?

  • Adam Woodhams Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)

    petermac87 wrote:

     

    This seemed to cover all the new features in Mavericks Finder.

     

    That was never in question. Your point is?...

    As Apples self-appointed sheriff in these forums perhaps you can point us to the tech support document that lists the removed or seriously amended functions?

  • Kurt Lang Level 7 Level 7 (31,490 points)

    and remember that just because an issue does not effect you

    Well, since I'm using Mavericks as my day to day OS, it does affect me. Yet somehow, I found and use a simple (though tediously repetitive) workaround, which I explained. What about my initial post do you not understand?

  • petermac87 Level 5 Level 5 (4,065 points)

    Adam Woodhams wrote:

     

    petermac87 wrote:

     

    This seemed to cover all the new features in Mavericks Finder.

     

    That was never in question. Your point is?...

    As Apples self-appointed sheriff in these forums perhaps you can point us to the tech support document that lists the removed or seriously amended functions?

    They never have before. You can suggest it to Apple though for future releases. Post it here

     

    FEEDBACK    http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

     

    Cheers

     

    Pete

  • Kurt Lang Level 7 Level 7 (31,490 points)

    Ah, now that's a completely different question. You have never mentioned that you want the sidebar open at the same time as a one hand operation to open a new folder. You initial post contained:

    Since 1984 I've arranged Finder windows in positions and sizes that suit me and I have never seen any reason to change.

    The only logical way to take that was that you want Mavericks to behave like OS 9 or earlier, when there was no sidebar.

     

    Given the change in your preferred operation of the OS, then you are indeed stuck at the moment. If I missed that part of your desired operation somewhere else in the long topic, I apologize. I didn't read real close after the first 8 to 10 pages.

     

    In which case, we're back to the oft repeated suggestion. Contact Apple and request a feature change. You can't make the OS do something it currently isn't designed to do yourself. Apple is going to have to be the ones to implement the change/feature.

  • Adam Woodhams Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)

    Kurt Lang wrote:

    What about my initial post do you not understand?

    And I ask you the same question.

     

    The point here is that under Mavericks long-standing functionality has been removed or decreased (depending on your "hair-splitting" definition)
    Changes to the OS, which may seem like minor tweaking to some, have proved to have negative productivity and workflow impacts for others.

    I get progress, I get change, but as I, and many, many other posters, have asked why not just retain these long standing functions as options? What's with the purging?
    To remove them or amend them without leaving any choice to still deploy them system-wide seems to be change for the sake of change without much thought given to user workflow.
    Sure the changes are not crippling or deal-breakers but they add extra steps to what were once simple processes.

    It's happened in other areas too.

    QuickTime for example you could always double-click a movie window to go to full screen. Now you have to use the full-screen button at top-right or use a keyboard shortcut. A pointless annoyance and essentially the removal of a long-standing and useful function (overcome by using VLC as default of course)

    iPhoto was a classic example when it went from V8 to V9. So much stuff was removed or amended in a manner that slowed down doing simple tasks that it was infuriating. It made the app less useful. It may have become more powerful under the hood but that's kind of irrelevant if it takes you longer to accomplish everything.

    Changes such as these may seem like nothing much to some but I really would like to know Apples rationale behind adding extra steps to what were simple processes.

  • Wizard_Magic_Spell Level 1 Level 1 (40 points)

    The original poster has made it clear what his gripe is. I agree with him. Totally. But some of you people in here,yes you lot,who think you are so smart and so clever (which you are not) are just causing annoyance. As for you,Pete,well,on second thoughts,I'm not wasting my time. So,to all who like the way Mavericks works,go start your own thread praising the OS,and leave us,who dislike the changes,to air our grievances here,because,to be frank,you are not helping anybody.

  • Kurt Lang Level 7 Level 7 (31,490 points)

    It bugs the heck out of me that I can no longer create a new folder with Command+N, which was the default keystroke for decades. With previous versions of OS X, you could make a fairly simple change to the com.apple.finder.plist file in your user account to change the behavior back, instead of Apple's fairly recent change to Command+Shift+N.

     

    That no longer works in Mavericks since Apple assigned yet another new function to Command+N at the Finder desktop, and you can't override it anymore.

     

    I don't like having to break years of muscle memory and trained thinking for a new folder, but it looks like I'm just going to finally have to get used to Command+Shift+N.

  • Ricky Barnaby Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)

    I just hope we never lose the up/down arrow navigation with cmd and or cmd/alt

    I just love this feature and am so pleased its still working now i got rid of the toolbars.

    Thanks for your posts too Kurt, there were a couple of things i forgot about there that you kindly reminded me of.

  • Eugenio MORASSI Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    This

     

    http://www.roam.it/soft/wip9/wip.zip

     

    does hide Toolbars for 1 level or for every folder and subfolder contained in a folder you drop to application icon.

     

    But I discovered that OS X 10.9 Finder is very buggy, so for certain folders you have to use this software 2 of three times ina row to be sure that every subfolder has it's Tollbar hidden.

     

    But, once you did, it's definitive.

     

    HTH.

     

    * * *

     

    It's beta software, but cannot create problems; it's a modified version of this

     

    http://www.roam.it/soft/wip8/

     

    made to work aroud the problem in this discussion.

     

    Already sent my feedback to Apple.

     

    Bye

  • Alex Geis Level 2 Level 2 (460 points)

    I have to agree with John, and do not quite understand why some people on this board do not get the intial issue. It's really quite simple.

     

    I have a custom piece of software I wrote that backs up my work drive to a separate machine. Its millions of files and several directories deep. Let's assume at some point I wanted to grab a file out of backup cause I accidentally saved over something that I didn't want to. If that machine was running Mavericks, I would have to do the following:

     

    -command click to open the primary folder, and every single folder underneath it (requires two hands)

    OR

    -open the primary folder and click to hide the toolbar and click to open it (twice as many click operations)

     

    So in this case, for a fresh backup, to go N directories deep to grab my file, I either need to use 2 hands or use N clicks + N double clicks (not to mention the actual movement of the arrow to the proper menu which takes longer than both the click and double click). The original functionality is N double clicks. I would assume that means the core functionality is missing (or if you want to argue semantics, highly impared that it would be considered a negatively affected feature). I work with big data where directories and files are made and removed constantly, so the idea of hiding the toolbar so that i could double click it at a later date does not apply to me a majority of the time.

     

    As far as the argument about apple-N losing the ability to create a new folder, I agree with that completely. It was a change, in my view a negative one as I have never needed to use the new functionality. Did I personally adapt to using command-shift-N to make my folders? No, since I actually keep a terminal window open at all times and if I'm not holding my wacom pen, I find it instinctivly faster to command-tab to terminal, mkdir -p path and not touch the mouse. If I already have my wacom in my hand and already am hovering over that folder, I will do command-shift-N, but I'd say at least 10% of the time, I still accidentallly do command-N, in which I have to then do command-W and then command-shift-N (resulting in 3 commands instead of 1).

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