John Dorsey

Q: Mavericks Finder - how default to "double click opens new window"?

I am old and set in my ways.  I like having the Finder open a new window when I double click a folder.  Since 1984 I've arranged Finder windows in positions and sizes that suit me and I have never seen any reason to change.

 

In Mavericks however there does not seem to be a way to default to, "double click opens new Finder window".  My choices under Finder preferences are, open in the same window; or open in a tab.  I don't care for either.

 

Does anyone know of a way to restore the traditional Finder behavior in Mavericks?  Thanks in advance.

Mac Pro, OS X Mavericks (10.9), 18 GB RAM

Posted on Oct 22, 2013 5:54 PM

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  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Jan 7, 2014 4:06 PM in response to Alex Geis
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    Jan 7, 2014 4:06 PM in response to Alex Geis

    People understand the issue, there is just nothing that anybody here can do about it.

     

    Pete

  • by Alex Geis,

    Alex Geis Alex Geis Jan 7, 2014 4:13 PM in response to petermac87
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    Jan 7, 2014 4:13 PM in response to petermac87

    As the original poster stated today, no.. not all people understand the issue. He was clarifying himself and I was agreeing and extrapolating on his point.

     

    I personally do not use the side bar, I do not use the toolbar, I do not care if it is hidden or showing, and do not care to make the effort to toggle them because they do not interest me. In my specific case, I want to be able to double click to open a window without having to modify those settings. The OP put it such that he wants to be able to do it with a window that's in a "default" state (although he likes having them visible). In essence, they're one in the same argument from the functionality standpoint and several posts did not understand that.

     

    Referenced by OP:

     

    Kurt Lang wrote:

     

    I fully explained how to get folders in Mavericks to do exactly that what the OP is looking for, and is the same as the pre OS X Mac OS.

     

    I am the OP, and what you have explained how to do is not what I am looking to do.  I'd say we could agree to disagree on this point, but I'm afraid I hold the trump card here!

  • by Alex Geis,

    Alex Geis Alex Geis Jan 7, 2014 4:17 PM in response to Alex Geis
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    Jan 7, 2014 4:17 PM in response to Alex Geis

    I'd also would like to add the point that it is very important that people continue to voice their opinions here in addition to leaving feedback. The more discussion and the more active the thread, the more clout it gathers when other users who may not be aware of this google or bing when they too experience. I hope that this thread continues to gain traction and people continue to voice their opnion after leaving feedback, as to allow it to get more traction and reach more users, who will in turn leave more feedback.

     

    Having said that, I would also add that Apple is monitoring this thread, as I have had two of my posts already removed. As they weren't conflicting with any abusive parameters of the ToS, I would imagine they were not automatically removed and either Apple personal is actively monitoring this thread, or someone on this board has been going out of their way to report me.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Jan 7, 2014 4:40 PM in response to Alex Geis
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    Jan 7, 2014 4:40 PM in response to Alex Geis

    Read the terms of use again. It is clearly explained there.

     

    Pete

  • by Alex Geis,

    Alex Geis Alex Geis Jan 7, 2014 4:41 PM in response to petermac87
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    Jan 7, 2014 4:41 PM in response to petermac87

    Been there done that.

     

    Alex

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Jan 7, 2014 4:45 PM in response to Alex Geis
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    Jan 7, 2014 4:45 PM in response to Alex Geis

    Then why are you still posting comments that clearly show you don't understand them, in reference to Apple monitoring. Also people here DO understand the issue, just not why it was removed.

     

    Cheers

     

    Pete

  • by Alex Geis,

    Alex Geis Alex Geis Jan 7, 2014 4:49 PM in response to petermac87
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    Jan 7, 2014 4:49 PM in response to petermac87

    Half of yours are considered "flaming" abuse, yet yours aren't removed. Your point is? Also, you claiming that everyone here fully understands the issue after the comments posted on the thread today is naive, especially given the fact that the OP made the comment as well.

  • by Adam Woodhams,

    Adam Woodhams Adam Woodhams Jan 7, 2014 4:51 PM in response to Alex Geis
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    Jan 7, 2014 4:51 PM in response to Alex Geis

    Alex Geis wrote:

     

    I'd also would like to add the point that it is very important that people continue to voice their opinions here in addition to leaving feedback. The more discussion and the more active the thread, the more clout it gathers when other users who may not be aware of this google or bing when they too experience. I hope that this thread continues to gain traction and people continue to voice their opnion after leaving feedback, as to allow it to get more traction and reach more users, who will in turn leave more feedback.

    Agree totally. Anyone insisting that the forums are ONLY for asking questions or providing answers is missing the point of an online community. It is also about healthy discussion and the voicing of opinions.

     

     

    Alex Geis wrote:

     

    Having said that, I would also add that Apple is monitoring this thread, as I have had two of my posts already removed. As they weren't conflicting with any abusive parameters of the ToS, I would imagine they were not automatically removed and either Apple personal is actively monitoring this thread, or someone on this board has been going out of their way to report me.

    Yeap, same here.
    Early in the piece I had two posts pulled, both within the ToS although they did contain comments that were critical of Apple.
    Seems to be some censorship going on or as you said, someone playing sheriff.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Jan 7, 2014 5:20 PM in response to Alex Geis
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    Jan 7, 2014 5:20 PM in response to Alex Geis

    Alex Geis wrote:

     

    Half of yours are considered "flaming" abuse, yet yours aren't removed. Your point is? Also, you claiming that everyone here fully understands the issue after the comments posted on the thread today is naive, especially given the fact that the OP made the comment as well.

    Where did the word 'fully' come from? You can quote here you know. And you should instead of misqupting other posters.This thread is about How to Default to "Double Click Opens New Window". The posters here seem to understand the issue pretty well (not fully, as you added), but there is no option. There never has been in Mavericks. What you consider 'Flaming Abuse' is not considered such by the moderators, obviously.

     

    If your posts and the other dude above's posts have been removed then there was obviously a breech in TOU by you and you really should be careful what you post.

     

    Discuss away and give your opinions. It probably won't bring them back. But do not abuse others for adding their opinions as well.

     

    As the other dude said

     

    quote

    Agree totally. Anyone insisting that the forums are ONLY for asking questions or providing answers is missing the point of an online community. It is also about healthy discussion and the voicing of opinions

     

    Cheers

     

    Pete

  • by Barney-15E,

    Barney-15E Barney-15E Jan 7, 2014 6:01 PM in response to Adam Woodhams
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    Jan 7, 2014 6:01 PM in response to Adam Woodhams

    Agree totally. Anyone insisting that the forums are ONLY for asking questions or providing answers is missing the point of an online community. It is also about healthy discussion and the voicing of opinions.

    Not this one:

    Submissions

    1. Stay on topic. Apple Support Communities is here to help people use Apple products and technologies more effectively. Unless otherwise noted, do not add Submissions about nontechnical topics, including:
      1. Speculations or rumors about unannounced products.
      2. Discussions of Apple policies or procedures or speculation on Apple decisions.
    1. Post constructive comments and questions. Unless otherwise noted, your Submission should either be a technical support question or a technical support answer. Constructive feedback about product features is welcome as well. If your Submission contains the phrase "I'm sorry for the rant, but…" you are likely in violation of this policy.
  • by Adam Woodhams,

    Adam Woodhams Adam Woodhams Jan 7, 2014 6:59 PM in response to Barney-15E
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    Jan 7, 2014 6:59 PM in response to Barney-15E

    Barney-15E wrote:

     

    Agree totally. Anyone insisting that the forums are ONLY for asking questions or providing answers is missing the point of an online community. It is also about healthy discussion and the voicing of opinions.

    Not this one:

    Submissions

    1. Stay on topic. Apple Support Communities is here to help people use Apple products and technologies more effectively. Unless otherwise noted, do not add Submissions about nontechnical topics, including:
      1. Speculations or rumors about unannounced products.
      2. Discussions of Apple policies or procedures or speculation on Apple decisions.
    1. Post constructive comments and questions. Unless otherwise noted, your Submission should either be a technical support question or a technical support answer. Constructive feedback about product features is welcome as well. If your Submission contains the phrase "I'm sorry for the rant, but…" you are likely in violation of this policy.

    Ummm... and I'm not sure I get your point(s) Barney-15E
    '...healthy discussion and the voicing of opinions...' is both on-topic and encouraging constructive feedback so is therefore within those parameters.

  • by Barney-15E,

    Barney-15E Barney-15E Jan 7, 2014 7:09 PM in response to Adam Woodhams
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    Jan 7, 2014 7:09 PM in response to Adam Woodhams

    "healthy" discussion and "voicing of opinions" have rarely anything to do with constructive feedback.

    More often than not it is just whining and complaining.

  • by Hagglund,

    Hagglund Hagglund Jan 7, 2014 11:34 PM in response to Barney-15E
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    Jan 7, 2014 11:34 PM in response to Barney-15E

    Barney-15E wrote:

     

    "healthy" discussion and "voicing of opinions" have rarely anything to do with constructive feedback.

    More often than not it is just whining and complaining.

    so true. Sometimes though it's good to here others share the same problem or have a similar one, but focus must lie on creating constructive feedback – the word of the day. Hope we all can draw from that.

  • by Kurt Lang,

    Kurt Lang Kurt Lang Jan 8, 2014 6:36 AM in response to Barney-15E
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    Jan 8, 2014 6:36 AM in response to Barney-15E
    More often than not it is just whining and complaining.

     

    It does work at times, though. "The squeaky wheel gets the grease." Complaining can be good, but it needs to be done constructively with reasoned responses and why you feel it should be changed, or at least be made a user option.

     

    Like this very long topic on the loss of Save As in Lion I was deeply entrenched with. There were quite a few others with users vehemently demanding Apple put it back. But it wasn't just here. In a couple of those topics, users noted they also called Apple to complain about the change and said that the person they had on the line said, "Yes, we've heard this complaint many, many times".

     

    For what it's worth, Mavericks is behaving no differently than any version of OS X from at least Snow Leopard forward. With the sidebar open, double clicking a subfolder has always caused the new folder to open within the same folder. So nothing "changed" in Mavericks as far as folder behavior goes.

     

    That doesn't in any way mean I don't agree with the premise. Why doesn't it? Or why can you at least not have an option for it? Windows defaults to the same behavior, but a simple change to the settings allows you to open all folders in new windows without having to collapse the surrounding navigation elements. There's no logical reason Apple couldn't offer the same simple setting.

  • by John Dorsey,

    John Dorsey John Dorsey Jan 8, 2014 6:50 AM in response to Kurt Lang
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    Jan 8, 2014 6:50 AM in response to Kurt Lang

    Kurt Lang wrote:

     

    For what it's worth, Mavericks is behaving no differently than any version of OS X from at least Snow Leopard forward. With the sidebar open, double clicking a subfolder has always caused the new folder to open within the same folder. So nothing "changed" in Mavericks as far as folder behavior goes.

     

     

    But this just isn't true.  The defaults are the same, but until Mavericks the user always had the option to revert to the prior folder behavior.  Mavericks removed an optional user setting that (apparently) many users were employing.  Snow Leopard gave users the option of opening folders in a new window, as default, in OS X windows with toolbars.  Mavericks does not.  Mavericks is different than Snow Leopard.  This availability of this option changed.

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