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  • 9,240. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    Merch Visoiu Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    jedlh wrote:

     

    That's a very big assumption, they'd have almost as much trouble as us getting "uber perfect panels" for every one of their official stores, it doesn't sound practical/feasible at all. Some stores will be much better than others, but I imagine the majority just wouldn't bother for a audience that doesn't care about such subtleties to anywhere near the degree that we do. The person on the ground will be the best ultimate source of info, so long as we can take their word at it.

     

    The point is that an Apple store is where you can compare your Retina MacBook Pro's display to another Retina MacBook Pro display. And considering the wide variety of display quallity you will definitely see some type of difference.

  • 9,241. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    jedlh Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    +1

    It's probably the best option of a weak set of options.

  • 9,242. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    MacOSX10.6 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    But the point being this that once a faulty  store screen sample pops up  they will quickly swap it out for another one.

     

    I still think the laptop models in the Apple store do not represent a fair sample of what the innocent customer will get.

     

    Or does anyone here really believe that when a customer spots say IR on one of the display models in the store and points it out to the shop manager that the same model is still being on display the following day?

  • 9,243. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    jedlh Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Nah, it'd be roughly equivalent to the end-user for most stores, the sh1t-ton of resources/time wasted getting one from a "God yield" just wouldn't be attempted in most stores.

     

    If it's a really bad form of one of the issues & completely obvious then many of them will bother, but anything more subtle & most won't give a sh1t or won't even notice it in the 1st place.

  • 9,244. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    brdeveloper Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Also, when buying, even after researching about the product's issues we let some problems pass because we only detect the pattern where the problem manifests at home. That is, image retention clearly appears at the login screen after some browsing or opening a picture with a large region of shadows after working on something with white backgrounds, but if you didn't know this and begin switching through white backgrounds you'll never note the issue.

     

    That said, I prefer my first display suffering from IR than the current with yellowing. Looks like that IR-ed display is the best a retina macbook can give.

     

    An additional question: the first retina iPad had problems with yellowing related to a glue between the glass top cover and the actual digitizer/screen. Is there a chance for this being the cause of unevenly yellowish rMBPs?

  • 9,245. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    Merch Visoiu Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    brdeveloper wrote:

     

    An additional question: the first retina iPad had problems with yellowing related to a glue between the glass top cover and the actual digitizer/screen. Is there a chance for this being the cause of unevenly yellowish rMBPs?

     

    I have no evidence that yellowing on the iPad is caused by glue. I think this is false in fact.

  • 9,246. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    BarrettF77 Level 1 Level 1 (45 points)

    Apple uses a bonding agent and double sided tape to attach the iPad Mini.  The Glue drying excuse has never had any validity on the iPads.  It's either caused by backlight LEDs that are low quality or panel issues. 

  • 9,247. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    Colonel.Cool Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Personnaly I always found Samsung panels in general to be yellow. The Samsung androïd of my brother is yellow, their TV are kind of yellow, many screens from Samsung are yellowish, it's not a retina problem i think. It's the way they manufacture their panel. All I am saying is I don't think tiens going to get fix and I rather have à display a bit yellow than with IR because the IR goes worse with time and at some point it's just horrible. My iPhone 5s screen is yellow while all the iPhones at the Apple store are clean white. I exchanged it 3 Times and every time I got the same yellow screen so I gave up. I kind of got use to it unless I see a "normal" one, I don't notice it anymore that much...

  • 9,248. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    brdeveloper Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    The problem is, for the n-th time, is not uniform yellowing. Although it's not really desirable it's something we can live with. The problem is uneven yellowing. This makes your mind go crazy. Our brain is adaptative to a uniform color cast so we can see white through yellow but we can't see white through a yellowish gradient.

  • 9,249. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    Merch Visoiu Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Colonel.Cool wrote:

     

    Personnaly I always found Samsung panels in general to be yellow.

     

     

    Some Samsung displays are yellow and some are not; just like some LG displays are yellow and some are not. In the photograph below both displays are the same Samsung model. On the right you can see LSN154YL01001 and on the left is one of my past displays with the same Samsung display model.

     

    IMG_2023-2048.jpg

  • 9,250. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    Merch Visoiu Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    brdeveloper wrote:

     

    The problem is, for the n-th time, is not uniform yellowing. Although it's not really desirable it's something we can live with. The problem is uneven yellowing. This makes your mind go crazy. Our brain is adaptative to a uniform color cast so we can see white through yellow but we can't see white through a yellowish gradient.

     

    Well, speak for yourself. I am complainging about uniform yellowing because my eyes see the yellow and it looks terrible. All the colours are wrong. Many people on this thread have complained about replacing their first display with image retention and getting a yellowed display and were very disappointed. Maybe you don't mind having a uniform yellowed display and many people don't seem to mind but the issue is both uniform yellowing and yellow regions. The default native white point on these displays is 6500 K. But if two different displays set to the same 6500 value look distrinctly different then one of them is wrong and unable to show 6500 which means it's defective.

  • 9,251. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    jedlh Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    So the methods I used to identify all known issues (I'm not sure I've covered all issues? Def. haven't covered bleeding yet), does everyone agree they're the best? If so, then it's looking like I'm not having any of the issues I've tested for, except for IR of course.

  • 9,252. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    shadow82x Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    As promised I said I was going to post pics comparing my LG (LP154WT1-SJE1) with a 2010 macbook pro. Here are the results:

     

    2010 MBP left <      > 2013 RMBP (Late) Right

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    IMG_1972.jpg

     

     

     

    So as you can see the RMBP is definetely warmer. Has a very slight yellow tint I'd say, but definetely warmer. The RMBP looked a bit better to me than the 2010 model even if the white wasn't as bright on it.

  • 9,253. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    shadow82x Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Few more

    IMG_7095.jpgIMG_3327.jpg

    IMG_3941 copy.jpg

     

    (Sorry these were taken with an iphone 5s + I had to blotch out the tabs)

  • 9,254. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    Merch Visoiu Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    shadow82x wrote:

     

    So as you can see the RMBP is definetely warmer. Has a very slight yellow tint I'd say, but definetely warmer. The RMBP looked a bit better to me than the 2010 model even if the white wasn't as bright on it.

     

    OK, well, a better comparison would be to another Retina MacBook Pro in an Apple store because those are the actual units you could have had.