Currently Being ModeratedJan 16, 2014 4:20 AM (in response to nybbles)
Yeah I agree with our mates, planning on using windows 7 throughout 2014. I think windows 8 is great for tablets but I don't see many good reason to upgrade to 8 with a macbook.
I'll wait till 2015, see what comes up and will only upgrade if I absolutely have too.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 16, 2014 11:51 PM (in response to timelover)
@ALL: Thanks for your responses. Just as I thought, it's too early. If I succeed with that next big thing (which is: true smooth precision scroll) I would simply not touch Windows 7 Trackpad++ binary. I mean it will be included, just unfortunately without the new feature. The new scroll engine seems only possible with new Windows 8.1 APIs, and even with them it's very unclear how to proceed, because the trackpad device does not conform the standards. But I have reached a very small initial success, just like with pinch-to-zoom feature half of the year ago, so this could be the sign that the new scroll engine will become available during this year.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 18, 2014 8:36 PM (in response to V-l-a-d-i-m-i-r)
Out of curiousity... how well does 8.1 work on MBP? I've noted that Apple doesn't officially support 8.1, they support 8, but not 8.1.... I've seen so many posts about people having certain hardware issues on 8.1 specifically. I might try updating over the summer... but it seems hit or miss from what I've read.
My worst case scenario would be formatting and reinstalling 7 again... but really I don't want to go through all that hassle...and of course I have to buy Win 8.1 install discs...
Currently Being ModeratedJan 18, 2014 9:33 PM (in response to nybbles)
Hi nybbles, I don't know about Win 8.1. I am running on Win 7x64, but regarding the hassle of having to go back to Win 7 in your worst case scenario, may I suggest that you back up an entire copy of your Win 7 installation using WINCLONE. Google it, it is well known and supported. I have used it for a long time now.
Sorry all for this off topic reply, but I know about the hassle of doing a whole Windows install. Uuuufffff !
Currently Being ModeratedJan 19, 2014 4:35 AM (in response to mauriciofromhuixquilucan)
@mauricio - great idea. I think I'll certainly do that. I heard of winclone.
@ all - sorry for hijacking the topic. Wasn't my intention. If anybody else wants to reply, kindly PM me. Thanks.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 19, 2014 4:36 AM (in response to nybbles)
@nybbles: I think that the older and newer Macbook generations may work differently with Windows 8.1, because the hardware is much different, and even the Boot Camp is limited to version 4 ( = outdated) on some older models. E.g. Mid-2013 Macbook Air works very well with Windows 8.1, including the EFI mode, so it's unclear why 8.1 is not listed as supported OS yet.
Let's turn offtopic into not offtopic Just for the information of community, here is the most current list of differences between the version of the Trackpad++ driver for Windows 8.1 and the one for Windows 7:
- Edge gestures are available in Windows 8.1, but not available for Windows 7;
- The set of the assignable actions for 3/4-finger gestures is slightly different (no Charms bar, Flip 3D instead of Metro Switcher, Start menu instead of Start Screen);
- User interface of the Trackpad++ Control Module is rendered differently in Windows 8.1 (native UI).
Currently, that's all. However, in the future the differences may become more pronounced, because the new scroll engine will probably be compatible with Windows 8.1 only.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 24, 2014 7:18 PM (in response to V-l-a-d-i-m-i-r)
I can't find any way to get 2-finger right-click to work with Trackpad++ installed without also left-clicking at the same time. I know the recommended workarond is to use tap-to-click, but with that enabled I keep getting phantom clicks from accidentally touching the trackpad... and I'd prefer clicking over tapping even if that wasn't the case.
If that were fixed, this driver would be very nearly perfect and well worth a donation.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 27, 2014 1:18 AM (in response to pdp555)
@pdp555: Thank you for posting a feedback. In addition to 2-finger tap (which in my humble opinion works very well) a user can enable secondary click at the very bottom right corner, see http://powerplan7.com/3141.png
With Trackpad++ there no such feature as 2-finger CLICK, there is only 2-finger tap. So, yes, the behavior can be unpredictable, because there is simply no such official feature.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 4, 2014 11:48 PM (in response to V-l-a-d-i-m-i-r)
@ALL: Important note. Here is why for most Retina Macbook Pro owners the Trackpad++ 3-finger drag feature works perfectly, while for a few it did not work at all. If it was the case for you, then all you have to do is: please adjust the setting outlined with red (http://powerplan7.com/DPI_FIX.jpg) so that it matches a provided screen shot and reboot. That's all. Then you can use any DPI, 100%, 125%, 150%, 175%, 199%, 200%, and any screen resolution. It's important to note, Windows 8.1 is not affected, but Windows 8 and 7 are.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 6, 2014 5:15 AM (in response to V-l-a-d-i-m-i-r)
Yeah Im still on windows 7.
However what exactly do you mean by "not working"? I mean, it is dragging stuff when I touch with 3 fingers but maybe I could get improvements if I tweak those settings?
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 7, 2014 12:01 AM (in response to timelover)
@timelover: Only if Trackpad++ 3-finger drag is not available, check this setting. If it works, no need to change it. Here is a complete story: recently a few people reported that it's not working, which looked completely mysterious, as I thoroughtly tested this feature on every supported version of Windows, both with MBP and MBA. After further investigation, I had discovered that this setting is the reason. To answer your question: it shall be set if you use custom DPI scaling (>100%), but it changes nothing otherwise. It's about DPI scaling, not about the screen resolution. Also, all the rest of the Trackpad++ gestures work fine regardless of this setting.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 7, 2014 7:20 PM (in response to nybbles)
OK... Just needed to post that I did it... I spent like an entire week (almost) getting 8.1 to install and then update all of my apps, devices, etc. Only a few issues so far.. Windows 8 apps don't get internet all the time (can't figure out why, tried everything), but Fiddler 2 fixes that. Firewire GONE! So my pro sound card no work (luckily, I only use that in OS X). I can't control brightness of my screen, luckily, it goes full brightness.
BUT, I must say Trackpad++ on 8.1 is BRILLIANT! It works even better than it did in Win 7! So glad I donated back in the day.