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Q: Time Capsule won't accept correct wifi password

Hi there,

 

I'm tearing my hair out with this one! I have set up a new wifi network with the Time capsule, everytime I try to connect it says "invalid password" when I know 100% its correct! I have ipad, imac, and apple tv, which also cannot connect with the same password. I have tried changing the password with the same result. I have tried no password and I am able to connect no problem. Can anyone help please?

 

Thanks

MacBook Pro with Retina display, OS X Mavericks (10.9.1)

Posted on Jan 22, 2014 11:27 AM

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  • by Bob Timmons,Helpful

    Bob Timmons Bob Timmons Jan 22, 2014 11:38 AM in response to cjaybee
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    Jan 22, 2014 11:38 AM in response to cjaybee

    Change the name of the wireless network on the Time Capsule to something simple......

     

    8-20 characters using only normal letters and numbers

    No special characters like an apostrophe, dollar sign, asterisk, etc.

    No blank spaces in the name

     

    Same guidelines for the password, but do not use the same password that you have used before

     

    Power off and restart all devices before you try to connect again.

  • by cjaybee,

    cjaybee cjaybee Jan 24, 2014 1:29 AM in response to Bob Timmons
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    Jan 24, 2014 1:29 AM in response to Bob Timmons

    So I tried the above, and now I can connect Apple TV and Macbook, but not Ipad or mac mini, it continues to say incorrect password although the other 2 are connected using the exact same password. Any ideas?

  • by LaPastenague,Helpful

    LaPastenague LaPastenague Jan 24, 2014 1:46 AM in response to cjaybee
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    Jan 24, 2014 1:46 AM in response to cjaybee

    Test briefly with no password at all.

     

    That is always a good proof of whether it is really and truly a password issue or is a false error message.. and is really that the connection is broken and not passing packets.. which is likely.

     

    Failure to connect without a password indicates a different problem.

     

    What model TC is this?? A1xxx from the base please.

     

    What firmware is it running?

     

    How is it setup, ie bridge or router to what kind of broadband router?

     

    The other addition is to fix wireless channels which seldom helps the Mac but often seems to help the iOS devices.

     

    In the wireless options set 2.4ghz to 11, 6, 1 in that order..

     

    Set 5ghz to 36 or 40 and >149 it is not particular which.

     

    I recommend different names for both bands so you can clearly see which is failing if it is not both.

  • by cjaybee,

    cjaybee cjaybee Jan 24, 2014 1:56 AM in response to LaPastenague
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    Jan 24, 2014 1:56 AM in response to LaPastenague

    Hi ,

     

    Its running firmware 7.7.2 and its a A1470. I tried with no password and it connected ok, and have now readded the password and it is working ok for the moment with all devices connected so thanks for the advice. This has happened before and it only connects temporarily (for a few hours) then drops out totally reasking for the passwords again, and refusing them when they are entered correctly.

     

    But the for the moment its working! I will keep you posted if the above happens again.

  • by cjaybee,

    cjaybee cjaybee Jan 24, 2014 3:22 AM in response to cjaybee
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    Jan 24, 2014 3:22 AM in response to cjaybee

    ok so its happened again, can't connect any devices now and it saying the passwords are invalid, I've tried changing the wifi transmission channels but this doesn't work either.

     

    its running in bridge mode, and its connected to a Swisscom broadband router like this,

     

    http://www.swisscom.ch/en/residential/more/save-energy/router-centro-grande-moto rola-adsl.html

     

     

    I think I might take it back to the shop as its still under guarantee.

  • by LaPastenague,

    LaPastenague LaPastenague Jan 24, 2014 3:41 AM in response to cjaybee
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    Jan 24, 2014 3:41 AM in response to cjaybee

    Yes, it sounds faulty to me.

  • by cjaybee,

    cjaybee cjaybee Jan 25, 2014 6:58 AM in response to cjaybee
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    Jan 25, 2014 6:58 AM in response to cjaybee

    So I replaced the time capsule with new one, and identical problem with the new one! Beginning to think its a problem with the swisscom router.

  • by LaPastenague,

    LaPastenague LaPastenague Jan 25, 2014 12:08 PM in response to cjaybee
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    Jan 25, 2014 12:08 PM in response to cjaybee

    Give us details of the full network setup.

     

    If the swisscom is a full modem router, does it also have wireless? Can you connect to swisscom wireless and everything works fine?

     

    How is the TC setup? Is it bridged or in router mode?

     

    Is there any errors in the TC showing in the airport utility.. double NAT for instance?

     

    Give us full details of the TC setup.. wireless setup on both routers in particular. Screenshots are the best way to help us see what is going on.

  • by cjaybee,

    cjaybee cjaybee Jan 27, 2014 9:40 AM in response to LaPastenague
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    Jan 27, 2014 9:40 AM in response to LaPastenague

    Hi LaPastengue,

     

    I have a TC running firmware 7.7.2 and its a A1470. I have Ipad 3, mac mini (late 2012) and macbook pro (late 2013) on the network. 

     

    I have a swisscom router which is running wifi on auto channel transmission. I also have the TC set to wifi auto channel transmission. The 2 routers are fairly close to each other (about 1m apart)

     

    I have the TC connected to the swisscom router by ethernet into the WAN port on the TC.

     

    I have the mac mini connected by ethernet to the TC. Airport utility looks like this.

     

    Screenshot 2014-01-27 18.30.47.png

     

     

    Screenshot 2014-01-27 18.32.56.png

     

    Screenshot 2014-01-27 18.32.27.png

     

    Screenshot 2014-01-27 18.31.59.png

     

    Screenshot 2014-01-27 18.33.13.png

     

    Let me know if you need any further information.

  • by LaPastenague,

    LaPastenague LaPastenague Jan 27, 2014 11:16 AM in response to cjaybee
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    Jan 27, 2014 11:16 AM in response to cjaybee

    You have a hidden network.. that is bad.

     

    In the second screenshot.. hiding the SSID was supposedly a security feature in the early days of wfi.. it was dreamed up by the router manufacturers.. it is not part of the code.. and never has been. In other words all the router manufacturers use it because everyone else does..

    1. it is useless. Any hacker can see the ssid. It is clear as a bell in any wifi analyser.

    2. it is worse than useless because it breaks some of the way that clients connect.. it causes problem.

     

    I doubt that is the only issue.. but please never bother with hiding ssid (wireless name in applespeak)

     

    Your security level is also lower than it should be. The one and only N wireless rated security is WPA2 Personal (AES to everyone else). If you have old G wireless stuff that doesn't work with WPA2, get a secondary WAP for it to join or use the swisscom router for that.

     

    I would also lock the wireless channels..

     

    On the swisscom set it to 1 and the TC set to 13 or 11 if that is problematic.. USA rules the world when it comes to wifi even if the regulations allow up to 13.. but if it is possible 13 is perhaps the least used channel in the world. Many client drivers cannot work with anything outside US code.

     

    You can try setting 5ghz.. channel but my understanding is that it doesn't actually work. AC wireless uses 80mhz and so needs too much bandwidth.. apple seems to stick to 149.. I am unsure so if you want to report your findings please do.

     

    Test it using the wireless diagnostics software on a computer or an app you can download for ipad/iphone.

     

    Check that the channel is set correctly.

     

    The diagnostics in Mountain Lion / Mavericks is fine.

     

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5606

  • by disterheft,

    disterheft disterheft Aug 1, 2014 1:48 PM in response to cjaybee
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    Aug 1, 2014 1:48 PM in response to cjaybee

    I had the same problem, but with the Telus Actiontec V1000H.

    I resolved the problem by 1st going back to the original wifi setup.

    Next, with the TCs WAN plugged into the Actiontec's LAN, I plugged the TC into power.

    I then held the reset button on the TC (after it powered on) for about 5 seconds until the amber light began to flash.

    Following this, I created a new network with AirPort Utility.

    The password then worked on all machines in the house.

    Finally, I turned off the Actiontec's wifi to use AirPort.

    (Previously I turned off the Actiontec's wifi before connecting the TC which resulted in giving me the "invalid password" problem)

  • by hood541,

    hood541 hood541 Aug 11, 2014 7:05 AM in response to LaPastenague
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    Aug 11, 2014 7:05 AM in response to LaPastenague

    I am having the same problem as the original poster. Tried everything and now the TC will not even recognise the new password I had added for the WiFi... I'm at a total loss with this, it is driving me crazy.

     

    I'm also not very technical so if there is any other suggestions on this issue I'd appreciate it.

     

    thanks

  • by bliev,

    bliev bliev Oct 12, 2014 12:33 PM in response to cjaybee
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    Oct 12, 2014 12:33 PM in response to cjaybee

    Same problem. seems it's firmware bug.

  • by ROS14,

    ROS14 ROS14 Oct 13, 2014 8:15 PM in response to bliev
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    Oct 13, 2014 8:15 PM in response to bliev

    Had a similar problem. Resolved after i changed the router mode in the Airport Utility Network.

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