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Q: iWeb Replacement

Is Apple going to be replacing iWeb anytime soon? I really don't like the the alternatives. Freeway Pro, Rapidweaver and Sandvox. I have them all and none do I like. Too many add on things in hopes of making a better page. Too much cost.

 

I really want iWeb or a new version now. iWeb is OK but limited now because of no further support.

Posted on Mar 28, 2013 11:01 AM

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  • by joulka,

    joulka joulka Jan 29, 2014 9:39 PM in response to Roger Wilmut1
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    Jan 29, 2014 9:39 PM in response to Roger Wilmut1

    Thanks, I think I'll get it

  • by tco_23,

    tco_23 tco_23 Jan 30, 2014 12:45 AM in response to greenev
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    Jan 30, 2014 12:45 AM in response to greenev

    I also checked Everweb after all those postings. Unfortunately I must say that I don't like it. It is far away from being as easy to use and delivering what iWeb did.

  • by Roddy,

    Roddy Roddy Jan 30, 2014 1:16 AM in response to tco_23
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    Jan 30, 2014 1:16 AM in response to tco_23

    EverWeb is very similar  to iWeb on the surface and it should be easy for former iWeb users to master the basics. It is far more advanced than iWeb in that it can produce web pages that load quickly in the browser and are easily found by search engines.

     

    Obviously there is a learning curve since EverWeb has lots of features that iWeb users requested and didn't get.

     

    It's hardly fair to to say that an app is not easy to use unless you have actually used it for a period of time and built a test site with a few pages to try out the features.

     

    It would be more helpful to others if you could explain what you didn't like and any problems you had while trying to implement specific features.

  • by tco_23,

    tco_23 tco_23 Jan 30, 2014 1:42 AM in response to Roddy
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    Jan 30, 2014 1:42 AM in response to Roddy

    Sorry, don't misunderstand me. Maybe the extended functionality is my issue. I need something easy to use, quick to learn. Sure Everweb may have enhancements, but since I have to invest more time to learn it, it has for me personally no advantages. The functionality portfolio of iWeb was sufficient for me.

     

    One feature I e.g. miss is, publishing a website via ftp upload. This was easy in iWeb, but I didn't find this funcitonality in Everweb. Everweb  provides a functionality to publish a site on the Everweb Server, when you pay for it.

  • by Ethmoid,

    Ethmoid Ethmoid Jan 30, 2014 3:50 AM in response to tco_23
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    Jan 30, 2014 3:50 AM in response to tco_23

    Well, EverWeb is very easy to use and quick to learn - the interface is almost identical to iWeb with the Inspector icon etc.

     

    EverWeb wins hands down, as it produces cleaner code and fewer files for css and javascript, whereas iWeb produced this css in a file for ever page, so you were overloaded with files and folders.  The html snippet is better, injecting code directly into your page rather than displaying as an iFrame as iWeb did.  You can also put SEO directly into your page in EverWeb which you could not do with iWeb, having to publish to a local folder and then use iWeb SEO instead.

     

    One big thing is the ability to add drop down menus that iWeb never had and this has been great for me.

     

    I'm still waiting for the text wrap for images though, but perhaps we will get that at a later date!

     

    If you ever used iWeb 08, then you did not have the ftp feature and you had to publish to a folder and use an ftp programme to upload.  I personally never used the ftp feature of iWeb, preferring to upload myself, so its no skin off my nose to upload using Cyberduck.

     

    I really don't think that you will find anything easier or more intuitive as an alternative to iWeb than EverWeb, but look at the other alternatives out there - RapidWeaver, Sandvox, Freeway Pro/Express 6 and WebAcappella 4. These are other alternatives, but you may find that they have a steeper learning curve than EverWeb will have as it is the closest to iWeb in look and feel, just with more advanced features and cleaner code than iWeb ever had.

  • by AnetteC,

    AnetteC AnetteC Jan 30, 2014 5:18 AM in response to Ethmoid
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    Jan 30, 2014 5:18 AM in response to Ethmoid

    I quite like Webacappella (I haven't tried the others). It was easy to learn and I don't mind the interface. It delivers most things that iWeb did. The only annoying thing is that cropping of images doesn't seem possible, although resizing them works fine.

  • by tco_23,

    tco_23 tco_23 Jan 31, 2014 12:04 AM in response to AnetteC
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    Jan 31, 2014 12:04 AM in response to AnetteC

    I completely understand your point of view in case all the features you mention are of value for you. For that reason EverWeb or other solutions may fulfill your needs.

     

    My personal need is easy-to-use and reduce the steps to fulfill my work. E.g. having to move files manually by ftp does produce more manual steps, instead of just clicking "publish". Even though these may be only few steps for some users, for me every step to use a software is important.

     

    Also the code geanerated by EverWeb or other solutions may by more reduced than the one from iWeb. Factually most users today have a broadband internet connection, or if they use mobile devices, at least 3G. Therefore some more lines don't really mind those users.

     

    I think I will make use of my "money-back" guarantee for EverWeb and return the license.

  • by Ethmoid,

    Ethmoid Ethmoid Jan 31, 2014 1:28 AM in response to tco_23
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    Jan 31, 2014 1:28 AM in response to tco_23

    Be careful who you are responding to - you meant to respond to my post rather than the other poster?

     

    Also, that is a shame if you do get your money back for EverWeb, because they are adding new updates and features all the time to make it more efficient and I personally think that you will never find anything that is more like iWeb than this.

  • by nilesk,

    nilesk nilesk Feb 6, 2014 4:17 PM in response to Roddy
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    Feb 6, 2014 4:17 PM in response to Roddy

    Am looking into Everweb, which is intriguing; how does it deal with slide shows?

  • by charliemacOS,

    charliemacOS charliemacOS Feb 6, 2014 10:26 PM in response to nilesk
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    Feb 6, 2014 10:26 PM in response to nilesk

    There is an image slider widget under the Widgets tab in EverWeb.

  • by focidini,

    focidini focidini Feb 11, 2014 3:50 PM in response to Roddy
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    Feb 11, 2014 3:50 PM in response to Roddy

    When I tried it Everweb kept crashing. Maybe it will be a solid iWeb replacement if and when they work the bugs out of it, but it's just not there yet.

  • by Ethmoid,

    Ethmoid Ethmoid Feb 12, 2014 1:50 AM in response to focidini
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    Feb 12, 2014 1:50 AM in response to focidini

    EverWeb does not crash for me and it should not if you are not using a beta testing version of EverWeb.

     

    They are always working on bug fixes and this is what beta testing is for - they are working with 1.3 beta at present that inclues new features.

  • by dtrambusti70,

    dtrambusti70 dtrambusti70 Jun 3, 2014 6:59 AM in response to greenev
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    Jun 3, 2014 6:59 AM in response to greenev

    Another very good iWeb alternative is Sparkle, a powerful and easy visual website builder (OS X 10.9 required). You can download the trial here: http://sparkle.cx

  • by soltltym,

    soltltym soltltym Jun 3, 2014 4:22 PM in response to dtrambusti70
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    Jun 3, 2014 4:22 PM in response to dtrambusti70

    Thanks for the tip, but iWeb works just fine. Don't need anything else.

  • by Ethmoid,

    Ethmoid Ethmoid Jun 4, 2014 12:50 AM in response to soltltym
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    Jun 4, 2014 12:50 AM in response to soltltym

    Yes, well that is all well and good for now, but come the next OS update that has been promised, you may find that iWeb no longer works - with each new OS update some things will not work and as iWeb has not been supported and is not and no longer receives updates, perhaps you need to make the change now to something else before you are forced to.

     

    EverWeb is a good alternative and is very intuititve to use and is very much like iWeb in look and feel and will get better with each update that is released - the last version included Master Pages and they are always adding new things and all in all it has a lot of things included in it from the get go that iWeb never had and that people moaned about, such as drop down menus that EverWeb has, the ability to include SEO in your site without ever leaving it, a contact form widget and PayPal widget and lots more.

     

    I would suggest that you start now before it is too late.

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