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Q: Ignore ownership does not seem to work on local volume

I'm trying to set up a shared iPhoto library on my MBA using a local partition. I used this manual to set it up:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1198

 

The problem is that "ignore ownership on this volume" does not seem to work. If I mount the drive in one user acount, that account can access and write files on the local volume. However, when I switch to the other user (with the voume still mounted), that user is unable to write on this volume. Therefore, iPhoto cannot open this library since it does not have the necessary permissions.

 

Does anyone have an Idea what I'm doing wrong?

MacBook Air (13-inch Mid 2011), OS X Mavericks (10.9.1)

Posted on Feb 1, 2014 7:33 AM

by Linc Davis,Solvedanswer
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A:

It seems to be a bug.

 

Back up all data, then move the iPhoto library to the Shared folder.

 

If you have more than one user account, you must be logged in as an administrator to carry out these instructions.

 

Select the text on the line below by dragging across it. Don't include the blank space at the end of the line. Only the text should be highlighted.

sudo chmod -R +a "staff allow list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit"

  

Copy the selected text to the Clipboard by pressing the key combination command-C.

  

Launch the Terminal application in any of the following ways:

 

☞ Enter the first few letters of its name into a Spotlight search. Select it in the results (it should be at the top.)

 

☞ In the Finder, select Go ▹ Utilities from the menu bar, or press the key combination shift-command-U. The application is in the folder that opens.

☞ Open LaunchPad. Click Utilities, then Terminal in the icon grid.

 

Paste into the Terminal window (command-V), then press the space bar.

 

Now switch to the Finder and and select the iPhoto library. Drag into the Terminal window. More text will be added to what you entered.

 

Click in the Terminal window to activate it, then press return.

 

You'll be prompted for your login password, which won't be displayed when you type it. You may get a one-time warning not to screw up. You don't need to post the warning. If you don’t have a login password, you’ll need to set one before you can run the command. If you see a message that your username "is not in the sudoers file," then you're not logged in as an administrator.

 

The command may take a noticeable amount of time to run. Wait for a new line ending in a dollar sign ($) to appear. You can then quit Terminal.

Posted on Feb 2, 2014 7:58 AM

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  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Feb 1, 2014 9:15 AM in response to Eswip
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    Feb 1, 2014 9:15 AM in response to Eswip

    From the linked article:

     

    Keep in mind that while one user is viewing this library from iPhoto, another user will not be able to open this library at the same time. Instead, the following alert message appears indicating that the library is already in use.

  • by Eswip,

    Eswip Eswip Feb 1, 2014 10:36 AM in response to Linc Davis
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    Feb 1, 2014 10:36 AM in response to Linc Davis

    Yeah I know. iPhoto is closed on the other account, but still can't access it. I also can't copy a document to the volume since I "don't have the permissions". So it seems to be a problem with the volume itself as it does not "ignore the ownership" eventhough the checkbox is checked.Screen Shot 2014-02-01 at 19.36.09.png

  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Feb 1, 2014 10:47 AM in response to Eswip
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    Feb 1, 2014 10:47 AM in response to Eswip

    The sparseimage file must be writable by all users.

  • by Eswip,

    Eswip Eswip Feb 1, 2014 10:51 AM in response to Linc Davis
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    Feb 1, 2014 10:51 AM in response to Linc Davis

    It is (see screenshot). The sparseimage file is located in Macintosh HD/Users/Shared/ (as it says so in the manual). It just matters which user mounted the image. If I mount the image with my account (Joost), then I cannot write to it from the other (Test) account. If I mount it with my other account (Test), than I cannot write to it if I'm logged in with my own account (Joost).

     

    Screen Shot 2014-02-01 at 19.48.18.png

  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Feb 1, 2014 11:27 AM in response to Eswip
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    Feb 1, 2014 11:27 AM in response to Eswip

    In the Info dialog for the volume (not the disk image file), unlock the settings, then make it writable by everyone. Select Apply to enclosed items from the menu with the gear icon.

  • by Old Toad,

    Old Toad Old Toad Feb 1, 2014 12:12 PM in response to Eswip
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    Feb 1, 2014 12:12 PM in response to Eswip

    The Shared folder on your Mac does not support sharing an iPhoto library no matter what permissions are set for it or the library there.  It's been this way since either Lion or Mt. Lion.

     

    The only trouble free method is to use an external HD formatted OS X Extended (journaled) with ownership set to be ignored. 

     

    Creating a partition on the HD and setting it's format as above should work the same as an external HD. However, don't remember anyone in the iPhoto community reporting using that particular setup either successfully or not.

     

    OT

  • by Eswip,

    Eswip Eswip Feb 1, 2014 2:08 PM in response to Old Toad
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    Feb 1, 2014 2:08 PM in response to Old Toad

    I know that it doesn't work to just put the library in the shared folder. Thats why I created a new partition (which according to the manual in my first post should work). However, this still does not seem to work.. And it does not seem to be an iPhoto specific problem, as the partition seems not to work as it should (it seems like it does not ignore ownership while this option is checked).

  • by Eswip,

    Eswip Eswip Feb 2, 2014 5:53 AM in response to Eswip
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    Feb 2, 2014 5:53 AM in response to Eswip

    I tried everything that was advised above, still no luck.. This is the current situation:

     

    I created and mounted the volume with my account (Joost). Ignore ownership is turned on. With this useraccount, I can read and write to the disk and also open the iPhoto library file. "Get Info" of the volume shows only my user account (Joost) with read/write permissions.

     

    If I log into the other account (Test), I don't have any write permissions. In the bottom left corner of the finder window I see the little icon stating that I cannot write in that directory. Also, if I check the permissions, there are no permissions set for the Test-account, only for my main account "Joost". With this account, I also cannot open the iPhoto library file located at that volume.

     

    If I reboot and mount the drive with the Test-account, the problems are reversed. Everything works fine for the Test-acount, but my main account has no permissions and cannot open the iPhoto library file.

     

    Anymore ideas?

  • by Linc Davis,Solvedanswer

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Feb 2, 2014 7:58 AM in response to Eswip
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    Feb 2, 2014 7:58 AM in response to Eswip

    It seems to be a bug.

     

    Back up all data, then move the iPhoto library to the Shared folder.

     

    If you have more than one user account, you must be logged in as an administrator to carry out these instructions.

     

    Select the text on the line below by dragging across it. Don't include the blank space at the end of the line. Only the text should be highlighted.

    sudo chmod -R +a "staff allow list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit"

      

    Copy the selected text to the Clipboard by pressing the key combination command-C.

      

    Launch the Terminal application in any of the following ways:

     

    ☞ Enter the first few letters of its name into a Spotlight search. Select it in the results (it should be at the top.)

     

    ☞ In the Finder, select Go ▹ Utilities from the menu bar, or press the key combination shift-command-U. The application is in the folder that opens.

    ☞ Open LaunchPad. Click Utilities, then Terminal in the icon grid.

     

    Paste into the Terminal window (command-V), then press the space bar.

     

    Now switch to the Finder and and select the iPhoto library. Drag into the Terminal window. More text will be added to what you entered.

     

    Click in the Terminal window to activate it, then press return.

     

    You'll be prompted for your login password, which won't be displayed when you type it. You may get a one-time warning not to screw up. You don't need to post the warning. If you don’t have a login password, you’ll need to set one before you can run the command. If you see a message that your username "is not in the sudoers file," then you're not logged in as an administrator.

     

    The command may take a noticeable amount of time to run. Wait for a new line ending in a dollar sign ($) to appear. You can then quit Terminal.

  • by Eswip,

    Eswip Eswip Feb 3, 2014 4:33 AM in response to Linc Davis
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    Feb 3, 2014 4:33 AM in response to Linc Davis

    Yeah this worked.. So this is just setting the "ignore ownership" with a termina command? Than it does seem like a bug.

     

    Anyway, thanks a lot!