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  • 2,460. Re: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.
    applejpmc Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Snozdrop wrote:

    However, as far as I can tell, the only way to get data into an iOS app via USB, is through the iTunes File Sharing feature. Whereby you manually drag and drop files into the specific app via the File Sharing section of the iTunes Apps tab. So this would not provide anything like a seamless, automatic sync via USB.

     

     

    Hi Snozdrop

    You are right there aren't any apps  to use the manual way through iTunes file sharing - but it seems this has to be a logical way to go. Have a look at one of my previous posts - I lie a few others are trying to persuade a really competent developer to do exactly this. I don't see any chance that apple is ever going to listen to customers - especially judging by the never ending pro iCloud comments on this discussion.

     

    Maybe worth you anr your mates going onto dataviz link and getting their interest going.

     

     

     

    James

     

    Another idea - I use Docs to Go (from Dataviz), for excel, word, powerpoint, pdf etc syncing from MacBook to iPhone and have used this since long before iPhones even existed. Now they do App versions and it is so seemless and simple I suggested to them they get into the area of local sync of calendar and contacts and create an App. Their reply:

     

    "We have thought about the idea but were looking for enough customer requests before creating such an application. As I only do technical support I would recommend submitting your request to the customer service feedback section of our website using the link below:

    http://www.dataviz.com/Customer_feedback.html


    Our product development team checks our customer feedback regularly for new feature requests.

     

    DataViz, Inc.

    Follow us! @DataVizInc"

     

    Its just an idea - but these people have run their sync apps from the days when nothing synced properly on Nokia and Ericsson (pre iPhone) smart phones and they've always done a really solid job.

     

    Maybe some feedback from those on this forum to them might encourage a way more speedy solution than we are likely to get from Apple.

  • 2,461. Re: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.
    Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (35,310 points)

    gumsie wrote:

     

    That's the power of statistics and presenting data in a favourable manner.

    What do you extrapolate from the 222,519 views this thread has had?

  • 2,462. Re: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.
    TopSteve Level 1 Level 1 (65 points)

    peter_watt wrote:

     

    TopSteve, occasionally my Csound1 and I agree.

     

    If all you are contributing is hypotheticals, mysterious truths and maybes, one might conclude you are just arguing for argument's sake. 

     

    If you have a real problem, state it here please and someone can help you solve it. 

     

    We have addressed several technical non-cloud options, at least five to my reckoning,  and tried to bust the myth of your hypothetical European legal issues, what more can we do?

    The real problem:   Go back 1 year when I had Leopard on my MacBook.   When I am out and about I get an idear for a poem so I quickly type it into my iPhone 3G useing Notepad app.  When I get home I plug the iPhone 3G into my laptop and my notes appear in email and I can cut and past to a wordprosser and compleat the poem.  Now my macbook runs Mav... OS/X 9 and when I plug my iPhone 3G into my macbook and all the things that used to sync do expt!!! my notes that no longer appear in mail and don't apper in the Notes app.

     

    One of my older posts explain my atempts to fix this using OSX server and I still need to do the update to server see if I can fix it.

     

    As for arguing for argments sake. it's not for argments sake.  Some times inorder to come up with an answer to a problem " How to locally sync an iPhone with OSX Maverics? iCloud is not an option." it is usafull to have a hypothetical situation where this definlay is the case.  So answers can be explored and perhaps new answers can be thought of.

  • 2,463. Re: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.
    Drew Reece Level 4 Level 4 (2,185 points)

    Apple's Notes system is a pain in the neck if you want to live outside of iCloud.

     

    The solutions are numerous…

     

    1. Use email instead, just save a draft on iOS & it will appear as a draft on Mac's or PC's that use that email account. It goes both ways, you don't need to email anything, just save drafts.

     

    2. Use Notational Velocity (or NV Alt) on the Mac & Simplenote on iOS. It uses a 3rd party web based solution (so your privacy issues still stand). It worked on my 3GS so it should work on a 3G. I think you can also set up to sync via Dropbox if you desire.

     

    3. Google docs…

    4. Dropbox…

     

    I doubt you have the same privacy issues with notes so it may be appropriate to send them via the web (obvoisly you know what data you need to keep private).

     

    If you must have notes that don't go into the cloud look at other 3rd party apps that support file copy via iTunes, Apple's Notes app isn't designed to work that way & you are fighting against their intentions to make it bend to your will.

     

    You can also go back to 10.whatever, it will give you all the features you had before you updated to 10.9. Is there really any point in denying it suits your needs better than 10.9?

  • 2,464. Re: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.
    TopSteve Level 1 Level 1 (65 points)

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    TopSteve wrote:

     

    Peter

     

    I belive that if a persion states/says that data can not be sync'ed by iCould even if that is not technal true it should be aceped as a truth

    That's absurd.

     

    No assistance can be given without knowing the problem, and the causes of that problem. This isn't magic.

    Please Csound1 don't be roude. Saying something that somebody says is "absurd" is roude.  

     

    If I say I have data that I feel I don't want on iCloud and if that data is ment to be insync on both my laptop and iPhone 3G then iCloud can not be used to sync the devices then that is not "absurd"  Niver is it "absurd" to say that for some undisclosed resion there is some data that can not be sent to iCloud.  Just because the resion is not undisclosed dose not make that resion any less real and dose not make that resion "absurd".

     

    As for "No assistance can be giveb without knowing the problem...." have I not defind the problem well anouth(perhaps not) so lets be concise:

     

    I have data/poems (yes just un-inportant c**p) (not shoure that you knowing that the data is poems makes a diffince to you in the help you may give) on the notes app on my iPhone 3G

     

    I want to have that data in-sync with the Notes app on my Laptop running OSX 9

     

    I used to have a easy way of doing this with Leopard and Snow Leopard

     

    I want a system as easy as it was.

     

    I don't belive that removing the local sync ablity is a step forword in progress or not removing it is a step backword.  So I am trying to get as meany people to use the Apple feedback system

  • 2,465. Re: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.
    TopSteve Level 1 Level 1 (65 points)

    Thank you.  You make some very good points. 

     

    As for 3G and 3GS  sorry to say 3G often will not run the same apps as the 3G.  3G only go's up to IOS 4.2.1 but 3GS go's to 4.3 and many apps need 4.3

  • 2,466. Re: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.
    petermac87 Level 5 Level 5 (4,205 points)

    TopSteve wrote:

     

    I want a system as easy as it was.

     

     

    Reinstall your backup of your old system that you made before you decided to upgrade to Mavericks. Then everyone will be happy.

     

    OS X Mavericks: Revert to a previous OS X version

     

    Pete

  • 2,467. Re: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.
    Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (74,870 points)

    TopSteve wrote:

     

    As for 3G and 3GS  sorry to say 3G often will not run the same apps as the 3G.

     

     

     

    but 3GS go's to 4.3 and many apps need 4.3

    3GS will go to iOS 6.1.3

  • 2,468. Re: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.
    James Richards Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    iPhone 3GS will run iOS 6. Mine's on 6.1.3

  • 2,469. Re: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.
    TopSteve Level 1 Level 1 (65 points)

    petermac87 wrote:

     

    TopSteve wrote:

     

    I want a system as easy as it was.

     

     

    Reinstall your backup of your old system that you made before you decided to upgrade to Mavericks. Then everyone will be happy.

     

    OS X Mavericks: Revert to a previous OS X version

     

    Pete

    May be but,  this moves away from the question asked at the top of this forum. and there are meany things about mavericks that are good.

  • 2,470. Re: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.
    Drew Reece Level 4 Level 4 (2,185 points)

    You are right about app compatibility. Simplenote now wants iOS 7, but it did work on iOS 6, 5, 4. If you are lucky the store will let you get the older version if you browse it in iTunes on the device.

     

    These devices are not supported forever, so you really are better off reverting the OS & sticking to a version of iTunes that was designed for that device - eventually Apple will stop ALL syncing on older devices in newer iTunes releases (like the iPods that can no longer sync).

  • 2,471. Re: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.
    petermac87 Level 5 Level 5 (4,205 points)

    TopSteve wrote:

     

    this moves away from the question asked at the top of this forum.

    That question has been answered a hundred or more times. No it is not possible.

     

    Pete

  • 2,472. Re: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.
    TopSteve Level 1 Level 1 (65 points)

    petermac87 wrote:

     

    TopSteve wrote:

     

    this moves away from the question asked at the top of this forum.

    That question has been answered a hundred or more times. No it is not possible.

     

    Pete

    In one of the posts it says "atlest 5 ways"  and I am expermenting with two posablitys and there is nothing wrong in searching/researching for others.   

  • 2,473. Re: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.
    petermac87 Level 5 Level 5 (4,205 points)

    There are other options mentioned here. If you spent as much time trying to find one that suits as you spend here arguing, then you may find your workaround you are seeking.

     

    Pete

  • 2,474. Re: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.
    James Richards Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    *Local* sync *is* possible, *USB* sync is not.

     

    There are now three non-internet workarounds I am aware of, although I know they are not right for everyone. I'm posting them again for the sake of keeping them visible on the thread:

     

    (1) Barney-15E has created a User Tip (https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-6311) which enables you to run a CalDAV and CardDAV server on your own computer (just the regular machine that you normally use) and to sync directly between your iPhone and your computer without putting you data on the internet. It uses wifi either on your own home network or on an ad hoc network you set up using 'Create Network…' from your computer's WiFi menu. It takes a bit of work to set up but once you've done it it operates very easily. It's not a perfect solution to the loss of USB sync but IME it works pretty well. There's another shorter thread whic is focused on implementing this solution:https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5549736?tstart=0

    or

    (2) get Mavericks Server, for a moderate outlay, and set up the same sort of thing that way. It may be easier to do. Don't be discouraged py a few posts on this thread which suggest Apple deprecate that idea. I'm fairly sure they flow from mutual misunderstanding between client and Apple Adviser.

    and

    (3) ownCloud now works with Mavericks and provides another way for you to set up your own server "internally": http://michaelgracie.com/2013/11/13/getting-ios-7-calendar-and-contacts-syncing- directly-with-os-x-10-9-mavericks/

    And if you're hoping for change make sure you post on the Apple feedback pages. This forum is only user-to-user, moderated by Apple if a user draws their attention to it, but otherwise only read by them by chance.

     

    Hope this helps

     

    James