Chris J Witt

Q: Rosetta and Lion - Is there a solution?

I'm considering upgrading to Lion, mostly due to the fact it has drivers for Nvidia's 500 Series, so ATY_Init will be happy with it.

But, one problem... No rosetta, and a lot of the programs I use or test are not universal binary (Primarily Cocoa PPC or Carbon). So that raises the issue.

 

How would I go about getting Rosetta on to Lion? I'm assuming that it wouldn't be as simple as copying some Frameworks and Kexts... Do any solutions exist for this yet, like hacks or mods, or is it impossible? (Or too soon?)

Posted on Jul 21, 2011 2:30 AM

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  • by cruttis,

    cruttis cruttis Nov 11, 2013 3:43 AM in response to MlchaeILAX
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    Nov 11, 2013 3:43 AM in response to MlchaeILAX

    Thanks Michael. I spent a lot of time in Lion (F/W) transferring Eudora emails using Entourage, the best method I found for the transfer.

     

    I upgraded to ML then Mavs and got used to GoLive 9. I was prepared to ADAPT.

     

    When checking my websites that have MIDI embedded I was totally disilusioned as there were no Plug-Ins!

     

    Apple, AFAIK, never announced this to be the case?

     

    I booted Parallels, Win7, only to find QT supported therein? All embedded MIDI worked!

     

    Somehow, I felt, 'let-down,' I could see no real improvement, for me, yet liked Mavs.

     

    Since SE days I have always looked forward to improve. 9>10 was difficult but a good move. PPC>Intel also.

    Mac OS>iOs I am not sure?

     

    But I understand the 'Business' ramifications of rationalising OS so that Mac OS X will become defunct.

     

    So far I have established that staying with Sandy Bridge will be problematical. I do not need Ivy or Haswell since this hardware OS upgrading is incompatible with SL, even though the latter is required to upgrade?.

     

    Yet, it seems that going Hackintosh can take an i52500K to 3-times the speed of current Mac OS hardware at a significant lower-cost. It will also throw me to the, 'Dark-Side' since I will have to 'know' what my OS is doing, not just, 'Using it.'

     

    It appears that I have been relegated to my 'garage,' as 'someone else' was who gave me Mac OS!

  • by K I M B A K A T,

    K I M B A K A T K I M B A K A T Feb 12, 2014 11:16 AM in response to Allan Eckert
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    Feb 12, 2014 11:16 AM in response to Allan Eckert

    Well I'm one of those millions of people just in NYC alone that use Office....and the rest of my people in my office are more...and we need to do this because mainly MS Office has completely bastardized, dumbed down and removed features from both Word and Powerpoint..(I think we've all seen Apple do this also - this dumbing down and removing capabilites as time goes on) Word and Powerpoint can have less print functionalities, are less efficient, takes more strokes do accomplish a thing that we require to do 100 times a day. They have also removed several buttons from toolbars and you are now forced to dig through sub menus or open dialog boxes and diggin into submenus from those just to do what you could with a click from a toolbar button. Really??? Cmon. MS Office 2004 was the best version..it still had macro capabilites...which was one of the main gripes among many business consultants and number crunchers on spreadsheets used in some of the Big 5 Consulting firms back then. Rosetta would allow you to access these versions.

     

    Let's also consider a FIlm and Television industry that relies on software written specifically for their industry. For example.... software designed specifically for scheduling complex film/tv production shoots, scheduling their crew, their catering, their equipment rentals, etc...These  programs were specifically designed for a certain industry and are VERY EXPENSIVE for the buyersa and the companies that write them!!! These smaller developers cannot afford  to keep up every other year  Apple decides to rewrite an Operating System. This is why backward compatibility should ALWAYS be there.

     

    So...anyone who thinks there are not millions of New Yorkers that work with these programs every friggin day....and  NOT going to notice they are losing capabilities, functionality and their precious time....

     

    Think again!

     

    Viva La Rosetta

  • by Allan Eckert,

    Allan Eckert Allan Eckert Feb 12, 2014 11:30 AM in response to K I M B A K A T
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    Feb 12, 2014 11:30 AM in response to K I M B A K A T

    Personally I don't care. I don't use anything from Microsoft nor anything that is code for the PowerPC processor.

     

    Secondly there is absolutely nothing I can do about your problem.

     

    Thirdly, since IBM bought out Transitive Corp, the producers of Rosetta, it is extremely doubtful that they will ever produce another such produce for Apple.

  • by MlchaelLAX,

    MlchaelLAX MlchaelLAX Feb 12, 2014 2:31 PM in response to Allan Eckert
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    Feb 12, 2014 2:31 PM in response to Allan Eckert

    TO: KIMBAKAT

     

    If you are unable or unwilling to update to Office 2008 or 2011, then you can continue to use Office 2004 with Snow Leopard Server (and Rosetta) installed into Parallels for use in Lion, Mt. Lion and Mavericks:

     

    Office 2004.jpg

                                  [click on image to enlarge]

     

    More information here:

     

    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1365439

     

    Installing Snow Leopard Server into Parallels for DUMMIES!:

     

    http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=17285039&postcount=564

     

    PS: You're posting to a stale thread...

     

    PPS: Actually when that comment was originally written in this thread (Oct 2011 - soon after Lion was released), there probably were over a million Rosetta users still operating in Tiger (Intel), Leopard and Snow Leopard!

  • by Mac OS 9000,

    Mac OS 9000 Mac OS 9000 Feb 12, 2014 4:59 PM in response to Chris J Witt
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    Feb 12, 2014 4:59 PM in response to Chris J Witt

    Still no alternative to Rosetta rather than emulating an entire Snow Leopard machine or using PearPC? I miss Rosetta. I have some things that were never updated, but I'm not willing to run a virtual machine for them.

     

    And Office '04 was the best version of Office (which I use purely for Excel). Office '08 is OK but uses lots more RAM for absolutely no reason and has a slightly worse layout.

  • by MlchaelLAX,

    MlchaelLAX MlchaelLAX Feb 12, 2014 5:14 PM in response to Mac OS 9000
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    Feb 12, 2014 5:14 PM in response to Mac OS 9000

    It appears that KIMBAKAT is on his way:

     

    http://forum.parallels.com/showthread.php?283364-Snow-Leopard-Server-install-err or-for-Parallels-7-and-8&goto=newpost

     

    You... not so much?  "You can't make all the people happy, all the time!"

     

    BTW: By definition, Rosetta WAS running a virtual machine!

  • by K I M B A K A T,

    K I M B A K A T K I M B A K A T Feb 13, 2014 8:05 AM in response to MlchaelLAX
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    Feb 13, 2014 8:05 AM in response to MlchaelLAX

    Ehh em....is on HER way.

     

    Give us ladies some credit now!

  • by K I M B A K A T,

    K I M B A K A T K I M B A K A T Feb 13, 2014 8:20 AM in response to Mac OS 9000
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    Feb 13, 2014 8:20 AM in response to Mac OS 9000

    I agree....MS Office 2004 was their best version!!

    They need to bring it back like Coke Classic!!!!

  • by MlchaelLAX,

    MlchaelLAX MlchaelLAX Feb 13, 2014 9:50 AM in response to K I M B A K A T
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    Feb 13, 2014 9:50 AM in response to K I M B A K A T

    "We're not worthy!" -  oh mighty Goddess of the Mac!

  • by darlie brewster,

    darlie brewster darlie brewster Feb 13, 2014 9:56 AM in response to MlchaelLAX
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    Feb 13, 2014 9:56 AM in response to MlchaelLAX

    I  like that

  • by MlchaelLAX,

    MlchaelLAX MlchaelLAX Feb 13, 2014 11:07 AM in response to darlie brewster
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    Feb 13, 2014 11:07 AM in response to darlie brewster

    nothing in this world like a woman who knows her Mac and likes bunnies

  • by cruttis,

    cruttis cruttis Feb 16, 2014 5:40 AM in response to MlchaelLAX
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    Feb 16, 2014 5:40 AM in response to MlchaelLAX

    I have tried Parallels with SL but it's configured for PC and peripherals are dodgy if even considered by that mob?

    I was lucky to buy a Mac Pro, circa 2008 (never tried a GAZ87MX-D3H -- Haswell compatible mobo?) for a small sum and now use it with my late 2009 iMac as display.

    The Pro runs Mavs and with an USB switch  and mini-display-port, I can select either the Pro or the iMac (running SL) as display.

    Thunderbolt doesn't allow this as does later Macs?

    The old Pro benchmarks @ 10,000 in Geekbench and @ 5.9 in Parallels, Win7. Similar to 2013 Macs at more $$$.

    Using iCloud much of my standard stuff is transposable and comparable, as is 1Password to keep my passwords therein.

    I am up-to-date to peruse, but can still use my beloved Mac Rosetta emulated Eudora rather than going 'PC.'

     

    :-)

  • by FatMac>MacPro,

    FatMac>MacPro FatMac>MacPro Feb 16, 2014 9:18 AM in response to cruttis
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    Feb 16, 2014 9:18 AM in response to cruttis

    cruttis wrote:

     

    ...I was lucky to buy a Mac Pro, circa 2008 (never tried a GAZ87MX-D3H -- Haswell compatible mobo?) for a small sum and now use it with my late 2009 iMac as display.

    The Pro runs Mavs and with an USB switch  and mini-display-port, I can select either the Pro or the iMac (running SL) as display...

    Unless I'm missing something, your 2008 Mac Pro (3,1) can run Snow Leopard natively; you don't need to emulate it. Just pop another HD into an empty bay and you're good to go.

  • by Mac OS 9000,

    Mac OS 9000 Mac OS 9000 Feb 16, 2014 9:57 AM in response to cruttis
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    Feb 16, 2014 9:57 AM in response to cruttis

    The Mac Pro 3,1 is the way to go! Got mine in 2012 for less than the cheapest new MacBook Air (including the display). You should take advantage of the 4 hard drive bays. The reply above mine is correct; Snow Leopard is what this machine was originally meant to run.

  • by FatMac>MacPro,

    FatMac>MacPro FatMac>MacPro Feb 16, 2014 10:02 AM in response to Mac OS 9000
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    Feb 16, 2014 10:02 AM in response to Mac OS 9000

    Mac OS 9000 wrote:

     

    ...The reply above mine is correct; Snow Leopard is what this machine was originally meant to run.

    Even better, the 2010 Mac Pro was released with Snow Leopard but one version later than what you could buy as an installer DVD. The version for sale will work on the 2009 Mac Pro and earlier, which means he's good to go. I have Snow Leopard through Mavericks installed, taking advantage of all those bays, and each has a use.

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