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  • 105. Re: Time Zone Support is STUPID!!!!!
    D Hull Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Hans, no offense, but that makes absolutely no sense to me. How do you see or even create an event on the Sunrise App if they don't have a Mac version? There's something I'm not understanding.

     

    I really don't want to think about timezones at all. I just want to use absolute times for wherever I happen to be in the world. I don't want them to change as I travel, change timezones or go from Standard to Daylight time.

     

    I need something that will do this across my devices, and my manager's devices as well, no matter where we are in the world, even when we're in different places as often happens.

     

    Thank you.

  • 106. Re: Time Zone Support is STUPID!!!!!
    HansWorldTravels Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    It appears you don't understand how an electronic calendar works then and I can't help you.  Why I've wasted hours in this discussion is beyond me. My problems ended instantly the moment I realized there was no reason I had to use iCal on my first & only iPhone (Apple device/comp) even though everything was saying I needed to use it. 

     

    Enjoy pulling your hair out. I've found something that works, absolute time, relative time, Santa Clause time, it doesn't matter, it works.

     

    Outlook = iCal = gCal = electronic calendars

     

    There is no PC version of Sunrise App either, bc you have a calendar interface on the computer called outlook or iCal that resides on the PC or Mac, OR you have access to iCal, gCal or Outlook (via Outlook Web Access (OWA)) thru a web browser & http address.

     

    iPhones have a resident calendar program as well. If you don't like how it interfaces with your life or needs.... You don't have to use it.... Hence my suggestions of sunrise, as I bounce from one time zone to the next often, work with multiple calendars (read: your boss's calendar & your calendar) and I don't want to be late for a flight bc some calendar system can't figure out time zones. And yes, you do need to think about time zones, it's really not rocket science, but it must be considered in any event created and subsequently when it happens for all parties to be participating in it at the same absolute time regardless of what time zone they are physically in at THAT time.

  • 107. Re: Time Zone Support is STUPID!!!!!
    Meg St._Clair Level 8 Level 8 (38,425 points)

    D Hull wrote:

     

    Hans, no offense, but that makes absolutely no sense to me. How do you see or even create an event on the Sunrise App if they don't have a Mac version? There's something I'm not understanding.

    Any calendar app you have on your iOS device accesses the same calendar database as the builit in Calendar app. Therefore, if you're syncing your calendar through iCloud to your Mac, you're effectively syncing Sunrise to your Mac's calendar as well.

     

    I use Tempo a lot (don't especially like Sunrise) but it all works the same. If I enter an appointment in Tempo, it will appear in every calendar app I have on my phone and will sync to whatever accounts I sync to.

     

    Please note that I'm not making any comments about Time Zones. However, if I understand what HansWorldTravels is trying to say, Sunrise handles Time Zones the way he wants to. When he enters the appointments in Sunrise, they sync back to his computer "correctly".

     

    Best of luck.

  • 108. Re: Time Zone Support is STUPID!!!!!
    D Hull Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    For reasons that are too lengthy to explain here I need to be able to enter the events on the computer. Not the phone, not the iPad, on the Mac. Time zones and time changes ARE the problem. I still don't understand how this software can help.

  • 109. Re: Time Zone Support is STUPID!!!!!
    D Hull Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    It used to take Microsoft to take something as simple as wanting absolute times on a calendar and make it too complicated to understand.

  • 110. Re: Time Zone Support is STUPID!!!!!
    Meg St._Clair Level 8 Level 8 (38,425 points)

    D Hull wrote:

     

    For reasons that are too lengthy to explain here I need to be able to enter the events on the computer. Not the phone, not the iPad, on the Mac. Time zones and time changes ARE the problem. I still don't understand how this software can help.

    I understand that. And, if you enter them in Calendar on your Mac and if you're syncing your calendar over iCloud from your Mac, the appointments will appear in Sunrise on your iPhone. I cannot vouch that the time zone thing works properly but HansWorldTravels seems to be saying it is. Given the trivial expense of Sunrise, I'd suggest you try it yourself. It may all make more sense them.

     

    Best of luck.

  • 111. Re: Time Zone Support is STUPID!!!!!
    D Hull Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    That does make sense, but I'm back to how to make it show up properly on the Mac and on the Cloud, as well.

  • 112. Re: Time Zone Support is STUPID!!!!!
    Meg St._Clair Level 8 Level 8 (38,425 points)

    D Hull wrote:

     

    That does make sense, but I'm back to how to make it show up properly on the Mac and on the Cloud, as well.

    I don't think you do understand. If you have Sunrise installed on your iPhone and if your iPhone and your Mac are set to sync calendars over iCloud, anything you enter in Sunrise on your iPhone should sync to Calendar on your Mac. Anything you enter in Calendar on your Mac should appear in Sunrise on your iPhone.

  • 113. Re: Time Zone Support is STUPID!!!!!
    D Hull Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    But...when I enter it on the Mac, the timezone issues kick in. When I went to Asia earlier this year it changed DATES. It was a nightmare. Anything that I entered when I was there was changed when I got back.

     

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  • 114. Re: Time Zone Support is STUPID!!!!!
    Meg St._Clair Level 8 Level 8 (38,425 points)

    Sorry, as noted, can't help you with the time zone issues.

     

    Best of luck.

  • 115. Re: Time Zone Support is STUPID!!!!!
    D Hull Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    That's the only issue I'm dealing with here. That's what this thread is about.

  • 116. Re: Time Zone Support is STUPID!!!!!
    Meg St._Clair Level 8 Level 8 (38,425 points)

    D Hull wrote:

     

    That's the only issue I'm dealing with here. That's what this thread is about.

    I'm well aware of the subject line of the thread. I was trying to explain one specific point that seemed to be causing you difficulty with HansWorldTravels's post and had caused him to say he wasn't going to reply to you anymore. I was not attempting to solve your entire issue. Sometimes, solutions come in pieces that we have to assemble ourselves. I will not, however, bother you with any more attempts at clarification.

     

    Best of luck.

  • 117. Re: Time Zone Support is STUPID!!!!!
    D Hull Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Sorry if I sounded snippy. I'm frustrated, not understanding this very well, and under caffeinated this morning.

  • 118. Re: Time Zone Support is STUPID!!!!!
    Meg St._Clair Level 8 Level 8 (38,425 points)

    D Hull wrote:

     

    Sorry if I sounded snippy. I'm frustrated, not understanding this very well, and under caffeinated this morning.

    My apologies as well. It sounds like a frustrating situation. And time for a coffee break.

  • 119. Re: Time Zone Support is STUPID!!!!!
    lvcarlson Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Am I right here that our goal is to have the time of an event be the time the event is to occur at the location where the event will take place . . . and that time should not be adjusted to some other time if/when we change time zones?

     

    I find that selecting "Floating" for the event keeps the time as it should be.

     

    The annoying thing is that I can't make Floating the default in Preferences. So I need to selected it each time I enter an event.

     

    I have no idea why Apple calls this "Floating." I think a better term would be "Stable" or "Fixed."

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