Currently Being ModeratedFeb 20, 2014 12:37 PM (in response to Rosenbaumfan)
As far as I'm concerned the most important thing you can do is have a bootable cloned backup, (or two).
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 20, 2014 12:39 PM (in response to Grant Lenahan)
Yeah me too.
I havent run time machine since I had the hard drive replaced and that was before I upgraded to Mavericks. But I also had a second HD that I manually dropped a copy of my files to and that is the one I have been using as a back up ever since..
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 20, 2014 12:42 PM (in response to Kappy)
I have a time machine backup from before the HD was replaced. i never ran time machine with Mavericks so worst comes to worse I have an old backup. I have been mostly manually backing up all my files to a second HD since the upgrade.
So sue me I am paranoid about loosing my stuff. Infact I have a new HD sitting and waiting to be used as soon as I sort the imac out.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 20, 2014 12:43 PM (in response to Rosenbaumfan)
Me three. But have more than just files - have your libraries, including the hidden users/you/library where all your mail, address books, etc are stored.
Better yet, have a 100% clone.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 20, 2014 12:44 PM (in response to gumsie)
Dont have a bootable cloned one but two external copies of all my files. *g* I will need to look into the bootable cloned option. I have never used anything like that before.
Any hints...tips for that?
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 20, 2014 12:44 PM (in response to Grant Lenahan)
I concur. Remember Rosenbaumfan, a TM backup is not bootbale. A clone should be. If you need help with that just ask.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 20, 2014 12:46 PM (in response to Rosenbaumfan)
I use, and really like, Carbon Copy Cloner.
terrific product. Was free for many years, but i guess not enough people donated.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 20, 2014 12:49 PM (in response to Grant Lenahan)
Yeah gumsie mentioned that. I will need to look into that and possibly use one of the external drives once I have re uploaded everythng back onto the machine.
I have a 2tb, 3tb and a 4tb. I was going to use the 4tb as the time machine to back up files from the 3tb and the main HD. That would leave the 2tb free. I could use it as a clone.
Might be back to pick brains re that as well
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 20, 2014 1:03 PM (in response to Rosenbaumfan)
What you need to do is this - Get a spare external HD and;
1. Unplug any external storage and open Disk Utility, make sure you can identify your internal boot drive. It'll appear in two parts, one might say Seagate something or other for example if that's what brand your drive is. and the other may be indented. In my example the physical volume is 512.11 GB Toshiba..... and the boot drive is 108.2. Make sure the external is least as big as the drive you are trying to clone. (Not massively oversized though, if it is then partition it).
3. Correctly format it. (Mac OS Extended Journaled, case sensitive if that is what you are using). If Ok then proced if not we can takle you through that too.
4. Option boot your Mac and choose the Recovery partition.
5. Open disk Utility when the Mac comes to life.
6. Plug in the external HD and select the internal boot partition, (not the volume - this will probably have the name of your hard drive), and click restore. make sure it's in the SOURCE field.
7. Then drag and drop the destination drive, (your external), into destination.
8. Click restore. You won't be able to use the Mac whilst this completes.
See the diagram below.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 20, 2014 1:07 PM (in response to gumsie)
As an example, if my boot drive was 106 and I wanted to clone it to the volume currently called Native7 I would;
Select 106 in the side bar.
Click Restore. (It should appear in the source field).
Drag and drop Native7 into the destination field below it.
(By the way this also copies the Recovery Partition).
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 20, 2014 3:35 PM (in response to Rosenbaumfan)
Bear in mind you can also partition a drive - say 2TB into a few partitions. I often make a few small partitions so i can keep various version of OSes bootable. Just FYI.
(off to a board meeting, over and out for the night)
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 20, 2014 3:58 PM (in response to Rosenbaumfan)
I had a few minutes and a thought, prompted by Kappy's concerns over "mixed backups". One thing that could cause trouble is that, specifically, your mail and address book files will be in a **newer** format than the apps you install with ML. That could be an issue. Stuff upgrades well, but not downgrades.
I would suggest you do two things:
1. Hope that most of your mail is IMAP and on a server. Anything on an IMPA server will just sync when you reconnect (e.g.: dont move mail filders initially). Locally stored mail, not so much. Not sure how that will play out.
2. re; address book - mostly easy workaround. Export ALL the contacts as a vcard file (select all files) and drag them to the desktop or wherever. A single, multi-card file will be built. Mine, for example has > 2,500 entries. No problem. Then import them into the address book after downgrade. vcard is a standard.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 20, 2014 9:53 PM (in response to Grant Lenahan)
Not just Mail and Address Book. It may be posturing by Apple but I'm sure I remember seeing a warning about my Aperture library being upgraded and the change not being reversible.
Currently Being ModeratedMar 2, 2014 11:29 AM (in response to Kappy)
Right a week late (life got in the way last week) and I will be attempting this in about 4 hours once the backup is finished.
I have created a bootable Mountain Lion disk on a 8gb flashdrive using your instructions If all goes well I should have my system speed back and my wifi back once everything is re installed.