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Mar 1, 2014 2:24 PM in response to Rock Island Mediaby tbirdvet,I concur. Worst upgrade of all since I started years ago withTiger. All upgrades went great until Mavericks.
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Mar 1, 2014 2:59 PM in response to herbert17by ApMaX,This is the new Apple that priorizes design versus functionality and progressively downgrades the appliations and hardware functionality:
SOFTWARE
- Missing scroll arrows.
- Missing scrolls.
- Missing color labels.
- Missing left pane colors.
- Missing resume playback on iTunes.
- Missing editing QuickTime Player features.
- Missing editing iMovie features.
- Missing electronic signatures via certificates.
- Missing folders to sort Application-side of Dock.
- Missing feature to prevent disk mounting at startup.
- Missing convenient Finder search engine like in Mac OS 9 (Sherlock).
- Etc.
HARDWARE
- Missing light pocketable Mac for Keynote and PowerPoint presentations.
- Missing disk activity light on Macs.
- Missing power-on key on keyboard.
- Missing frontal ports on Mac.
- Missing numeric keyboard with USB 3 hub.
- Missing true matte displays.
- Missing 3D displays and 3D playback.
- Missing Full Picture-in-Picture (two Digital Terrestrial Television tuners inside)
- Missing Blu-ray playback.
- Missing Thunderbolt 2 Display 4K with USB 3
- Etc.
What a shame, Apple - If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
DO NOT GET ME WRONG - I LOVE THE MAC, BUT IT COULD BE MUCH BETTER!!!
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Mar 1, 2014 3:09 PM in response to ApMaXby petermac87,ApMaX wrote:
What a shame, Apple - If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
DO NOT GET ME WRONG - I LOVE THE MAC,
Obviously, but your list will fall on deaf ears here. This is a user to user forum. Tell Apple here
FEEDBACK http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html
Pete
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Mar 1, 2014 3:55 PM in response to PackDesignby MacLifer2,I think they should've put the dots on the left-and side of the file name instead of way off to the right. It would have made them easier to see, but I have to admit I'm glad that they toned down the labels. I loved the classic mac labels where the icons had a subtle color change to it. When Apple reintroduced labels on OS X they were a real shocker.
Tags are really the better way to go though. Once you get used to using them you will never want to go back to just a few limited colors. For example, instead of only being able to select one color now you can select multiple.
I've read a lot of these posts and some are legit, but some are so dramatic to create the illusion the sky fell or something. I've been a long time mac user and used labels way back on system 7. Labels were always handy and created a way to visually spot file quickly, but they were never anything like what OS X had.
Is visually finding things easy or the most efficient way? I think Apple made it pretty easy to find stuff on the mac. If your looking for a red tag type in red in the search field and select tag and all the red labeled files are there. I know you might say it's an extra step, but is it really? Can you honestly say that you can manually find a file faster?
My biggest gripe about tags is Apple only partially implemented them. I would've loved to been able to tag everything - email, contacts, notes, calendar events, reminders, photos, music. Everything would've been awesome. Search on a tag and pull up everything related. Maybe Mavericks 2... Fingers crossed.
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Mar 1, 2014 4:13 PM in response to MacLifer2by DABbio,You've made good points, MacLifer, but many of the folks here have different work styles, and like me they want to get AT the files they may currently be working with, and not have to think at all about how to get them. Many Mac users are such because the OS is transparent and they can focus on the work.
For example, I may have only a few dozen files or folders on a current project-- mind the word "current"-- and the standout color on the label enables me to get to the ones needing attention first. Given my work style, as I once pointed out, a search for all the red tags, which in my case means, "hot, urgent, do right away" would bring up 10,000 files. Yeah, I know, I should probably mass re-label or re-tag them some other color that means, like, "once was urgent, but it didn't turn out that way." I'm too busy.
--Apple user since 1983 (pre-Mac)
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Mar 1, 2014 6:57 PM in response to Barby Galeby Barry Fisher,I've been reading through this thread b/c I'm thinking of upgrading to Mavericks. It seems that there are many have mentioned several utilities that give you back your color labels, so why are people persisting talkig about re-installing Mt. Lion? You've made your feedback to Apple, why not just get one of the utilities and move on?
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Mar 1, 2014 11:28 PM in response to Barry Fisherby jim leo,Where do we find such utilizes? What is the cost? How many other third party venders will I have to shell out money to in order to get back to the way the things were before the new and improved (not) system came about? If Apple is going to take this approach I might as well go back to windows.
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Mar 1, 2014 11:34 PM in response to jim leoby petermac87,jim leo wrote:
Where do we find such utilizes? What is the cost? How many other third party venders will I have to shell out money to in order to get back to the way the things were before the new and improved (not) system came about? If Apple is going to take this approach I might as well go back to windows.
That is your choice and has no effect on us at all. If you want the old, abandoned feature then search for someone who is catering for old habits. But more than likely they will want money. Try PathFinder. At the moment probably best of a bad bunch.
Cheers
Pete
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Mar 1, 2014 11:58 PM in response to petermac87by jim leo,Pete, I didn't make the comment because I thought it would have an effect on you. I made the comment on the off chance that anyone from apple actually reads these posts. (I already sent a different comment to Apple support.). As a stockholder of Apple I hate to bad mouth the company but I see the direction it's going and I fear it is time to sell.
Apple's strength was a loyal core following. There have bee hundreds of people asking for Apple to change the tag color system back to the old (pre maverick) style, but apple seems to ignore that. In doing so it is chipping away at it core. The apple experience will soon be no better then the PC experience, albeit apple hardware is generally more expensive. I have seen apple do this with other software. It pushed people away from final cut (an apple product) and towards premier (an Adobe product).
For many of us the old coloring system for labels was a great help. I find it hard to believe that Apple could not create a settings preference that allowed users to choose between the new dot system or old full color label system.
Cheers to you!
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Mar 1, 2014 11:59 PM in response to petermac87by jim leo,Pete, I didn't make the comment because I thought it would have an effect on you. I made the comment on the off chance that anyone from apple actually reads these posts. (I already sent a different comment to Apple support.). As a stockholder of Apple I hate to bad mouth the company but I see the direction it's going and I fear it is time to sell.
Apple's strength was a loyal core following. There have bee hundreds of people asking for Apple to change the tag color system back to the old (pre maverick) style, but apple seems to ignore that. In doing so it is chipping away at it core. The apple experience will soon be no better then the PC experience, albeit apple hardware is generally more expensive. I have seen apple do this with other software. It pushed people away from final cut (an apple product) and towards premier (an Adobe product).
For many of us the old coloring system for labels was a great help. I find it hard to believe that Apple could not create a settings preference that allowed users to choose between the new dot system or old full color label system.
Cheers to you!
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Mar 2, 2014 12:05 AM in response to jim leoby petermac87,If you think it affects most Apple users, then I'd be selling
my shares.
Pete
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Mar 2, 2014 12:09 AM in response to petermac87by jim leo,I think it's one piece of a bigger and troubling trend within Apple , and yes it is probably time to sell.
Cheers
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Mar 2, 2014 12:13 AM in response to jim leoby petermac87,If that is what you think, then every Apple user should probably listen
Pete
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Mar 2, 2014 8:49 AM in response to DABbioby johngoodman6,I agree. I am newer to Apple than you - bought the first Mac in 1984 (g).
The real issue is that Apple just dumped the Labels out with the bath water. In the old days, you could always undo a new feature, and still have the old one, somehow. Tags is different. They removed a good feature and replaced it with one that quite a few of us don't like, or don't need - no choice.
The perfect compromise would have been a System Preferences Pane that allowed you to use one or the other. Then, look for feedback. Then you can tweek Tags to everyone's delight and dump Labels in a new OS named after some other beach in California (I didn't even know they had names...)
It certainly can't take up that much space - or memory. After all, hard drives are getting into the Terabyte range, and the code for both is already written. Do what Apple is famous for... Go To...............
John
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Mar 2, 2014 10:57 PM in response to petermac87by Doug-H1955,You have no idea how many Apple users are affected by the loss of lables. It's possible that most Aple users are affected in one way or another. So, how about selling your shares!
