Ken2G5

Q: Prepaid Data Plan by swapping SIM card

Others have asked a similar question -- about using an iPhone with a cellular data plan AND NOT use it as a phone.

 

Now, my situation is similar, but with a potential solution. I don't need a phone. My iPad4 Verizon uses the same micro SIM card as the iPhone 4S. So I'm thinking of buying a used iPhone 4S Verizon without contract or any calling plan. Then...

 

Have any of you tried swapping the micro SIM card from an iPad with active prepaid data plan? Does it work?

 

In theory it should work. But I want to be sure before purchasing the iPhone 4S. Apparently this idea is way too confusing for Verizon customer service. They're annoyingly clueless when I asked them about it. Need some facts.

Posted on Nov 19, 2013 1:28 PM

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  • by varjak paw,

    varjak paw varjak paw Nov 19, 2013 2:39 PM in response to Ken2G5
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    Nov 19, 2013 2:39 PM in response to Ken2G5

    Suit yourself. I'm done trying to give you the information. If you don't believe what we're telling you - and if you aren't going to believe what people here told you, why did you bother to post? - that's up to you. Go argue with Verizon.

  • by deggie,

    deggie deggie Nov 19, 2013 3:06 PM in response to Ken2G5
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    Nov 19, 2013 3:06 PM in response to Ken2G5

    Here is a fact: In order to use the Verizon iPhone 4s you are going to have to activate it. The 4s does not support LTE so your SIM will provide you no assistance whatsoever and the prepaid SIM will not work with Verizons network.

  • by Ken2G5,

    Ken2G5 Ken2G5 Nov 19, 2013 3:11 PM in response to deggie
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    Nov 19, 2013 3:11 PM in response to deggie

    Finally a useful fact -- the 4S does NOT support LTE?! I've just looked into that. Bummer.

  • by awm82,

    awm82 awm82 Nov 25, 2013 12:02 PM in response to Ken2G5
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    Nov 25, 2013 12:02 PM in response to Ken2G5

    While it's true that this won't work with a Verizon iPhone 4S, it will work with any Verizon LTE-equipped phone (including the Verizon iPhone 5, 5S, and lots of Android smartphones). Verizon's 700 MHz C-Block LTE spectrum license requires that all its LTE devices be completely factory unlocked, and that its LTE SIM cards and their associated plans be interoperable between compatible equipment - tablets, smartphones, MiFis, jetpacks, everything (http://support.verizonwireless.com/support/faqs/VZAccess/4g_sim_card.html). This means you can take a data-only SIM out of a tablet, put it in a smartphone, and have access to that same data plan on your phone (see http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1465636 and https://medium.com/p/ce935d1aee5d). This is the same set of regulations that require Verizon not to restrict access to tethering apps on LTE devices, and which probably precipitated the inclusion of tethering in their mobile share plans (http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57485518-94/what-verizons-fcc-tethering-settlem ent-means-to-you-faq/).

     

    A couple weeks ago, I called a local Verizon store to ask about trying this. They told me that in order to start a new data-only plan, they would only need the IMEI number of the device to be activated - not the device itself. However, since they can't start these plans out with a smartphone IMEI (due to their store computer system's limitations), you would need to activate the plan with the IMEI of a tablet or other LTE device first, and then transfer the SIM to your phone. So if you have access to an unused LTE tablet, this would be a pretty straightforward process. If you don't, another option would be to buy an iPad and activate your data plan using its IMEI (usually located next to the bar code on the outside of the box), and then return it to the store unopened for a refund.

  • by Ken2G5,

    Ken2G5 Ken2G5 Dec 2, 2013 11:57 AM in response to awm82
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    Dec 2, 2013 11:57 AM in response to awm82

    Thank you. Now another fact that answers the topic without arrogant attitude — that Verizon's LTE-equipped devices should all work with swappable SIM cards except the iPhone 4S is not an LTE-equipped device.

     

    Such a simple fact missing from the first two arrogant answers.

     

    It's like the person asking the question is so stupid for asking.

     

     

    P.S.

    Good tip about swapping into an iPhone5.

  • by efbguitarguy,

    efbguitarguy efbguitarguy Jan 30, 2014 8:18 PM in response to Ken2G5
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    Jan 30, 2014 8:18 PM in response to Ken2G5

    Ken2G5- you are correct, it will not work with the 4s because it does not support LTE. However, the reasons provided by these guys who seem to troll around on the apple support forum and provide rude condescending answers are incorrect. Your LTE sims will work on any device. If you have a SIM card originally from a phone and it has a voice and data plan, it will work in a USB data card, a tablet, or an ipad that can utilize LTE. I use my sim from my employers unlimited data phone plan in multiple devices (an Ipad, a usb data card, and a wifi hotspot). The sim cards are different sizes, but you can buy a $3 adapter to make it fit in to a larger spot.

     

    The problem is going from a SIM from a data card to an iphone IF it is not the micro card. So that is the real question.. you would need another micro SIM and then it would work.

     

    On a side note, it is so funny how brave and rude people can be on these forums. You don't have to see them to their face, and its your one little area of life that you might know more than the average person, so you run around on here acting all condescending to other people... little people. This is why you have no friends.

  • by redzep,

    redzep redzep Mar 14, 2014 3:25 PM in response to efbguitarguy
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    Mar 14, 2014 3:25 PM in response to efbguitarguy

    Should be noted that Verizon prepaid data plans do not currently support 4G LTE... 3G only.

     

    But wouldn't this work with a regular ipad data plan (non-prepaid) just as well?

  • by applestoapples4512,

    applestoapples4512 applestoapples4512 Mar 30, 2014 4:05 PM in response to Ken2G5
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    Mar 30, 2014 4:05 PM in response to Ken2G5

    I disagree with everyone on here.

    I have a prepaid ipad mini and a 2 year contract iphone 5s.  I have used my ipad nano sim in my iphone and it fully worked for LTE data.

    Also I have LTE service on both devices, as available.

  • by redzep,

    redzep redzep May 8, 2014 2:00 PM in response to awm82
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    May 8, 2014 2:00 PM in response to awm82

    I'm confused about what you wrote below... let's say I want to do this with my ipone 5s (out of contract w Verizon). How would I get an ipad data plan onto the nano sim in my iphone 5s?

     

    Or if, as you say I bought an ipad and activated my data plan using its IMEI, wouldn't the nano sim of the ipad then carry that data plan? And by returning it, unopened, that now-activated-sim gets returned with it?

     

    to get it into my iphone, i'd have to open the ipad box right? Or are you suggesting swappign sims?

     

    Would appreciate a clarification. Thanks!

     

    A couple weeks ago, I called a local Verizon store to ask about trying this. They told me that in order to start a new data-only plan, they would only need the IMEI number of the device to be activated - not the device itself. However, since they can't start these plans out with a smartphone IMEI (due to their store computer system's limitations), you would need to activate the plan with the IMEI of a tablet or other LTE device first, and then transfer the SIM to your phone. So if you have access to an unused LTE tablet, this would be a pretty straightforward process. If you don't, another option would be to buy an iPad and activate your data plan using its IMEI (usually located next to the bar code on the outside of the box), and then return it to the store unopened for a refund.

  • by DrewBear2,

    DrewBear2 DrewBear2 Jun 11, 2014 8:29 PM in response to awm82
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    Jun 11, 2014 8:29 PM in response to awm82

    "...it will work with any Verizon LTE-equipped phone (including the Verizon iPhone 5, 5S, and lots of Android smartphones)...This means you can take a data-only SIM out of a tablet, put it in a smartphone, and have access to that same data plan on your phone..."

     

    Just an update that this is still true as of June 2014. I bought a Verizon iPhone 5s from an Apple store at the unsubsidized price. I activated the phone with Apple via iTunes (connected to an iMac), then replaced the phone SIM (still not activated with Verizon) with an already activated iPad SIM. The iPhone had LTE data.

     

    Note that when I checked the account on Verizon's website, it clearly showed the device on the data plan (1 GB for $20/mo) as an iPhone 5s. We'll see if Verizon objects when the data plan automatically renews next week.

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