peter aagaard

Q: No Dolby Digital Apple TV 3 firmware 6.1 (6698.99.16)

Hi

 

I was running the above firmware on my main appletv, and noticed that Dolby Digital (DD) over spdif had stopped working, both in netflix and when streaming from itunes on my computer. I then took my daughters appletv and connected it to my receiver through spdif, and now DD worked, my daughters appletv was running firmware 5.3 (6105). I tried software resetting my main unit a couple of times, but that did not help. Lastly I updated my daughters appletv to firmwar 6.1, and then DD stopped working on that unit too...

 

Since then I have cuorisly found that DD is now working on my main unit, when I stream movies from itunes, but still not when watching a netflix-movie...

 

Anyone out there who have had the same problem?

 

Cheers Perer

Mac OS X (10.7.2)

Posted on Mar 19, 2014 2:34 PM

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  • by Aaron T.,

    Aaron T. Aaron T. Mar 31, 2014 6:47 PM in response to peter aagaard
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    Mar 31, 2014 6:47 PM in response to peter aagaard

    I'm also having the exact same problem as the rest of you. No 5.1 surround on Netflix after I did the update to my ATV3. Major first world problem! ;)

     

    Anyways, I hope they fix it soon. It's a lil bit annoying.

  • by Alex Kim,

    Alex Kim Alex Kim Mar 31, 2014 8:21 PM in response to peter aagaard
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    Mar 31, 2014 8:21 PM in response to peter aagaard

    Same problem.

  • by mjatv,

    mjatv mjatv Apr 1, 2014 7:05 AM in response to peter aagaard
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    Apr 1, 2014 7:05 AM in response to peter aagaard

       It's not just the ATV 3's, after 6.1 update ATV 2's have same problem, no dolby digital with Netflix. Purchased files from the iTunes store have no problems. First real software problem I've ever had with the unit. Will await the fix.

  • by Aaron T.,

    Aaron T. Aaron T. Apr 1, 2014 7:37 AM in response to peter aagaard
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    Apr 1, 2014 7:37 AM in response to peter aagaard

    I just spoke with someone at Netflix. They are trying to fix the issue themselves. It may take a while before Apple does anything about it. He also said that some people were able to get 5.1 surround sound buy using Apple's own cables...it was almost as if Apple did this on purpose to make people by their own cables.

  • by dmorris145,

    dmorris145 dmorris145 Apr 1, 2014 7:37 AM in response to Aaron T.
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    Apr 1, 2014 7:37 AM in response to Aaron T.

    Yea except for the fact that dd5.1 works for other apps on appletv

    HBO Go works just fine

  • by zroger73,

    zroger73 zroger73 Apr 1, 2014 7:44 AM in response to Aaron T.
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    Apr 1, 2014 7:44 AM in response to Aaron T.

     

    Aaron T. wrote:

     

    I just spoke with someone at Netflix. They are trying to fix the issue themselves. It may take a while before Apple does anything about it. He also said that some people were able to get 5.1 surround sound buy using Apple's own cables...it was almost as if Apple did this on purpose to make people by their own cables.

    ...except that Apple doesn't make HDMI or optical audio cables.

  • by Aaron T.,

    Aaron T. Aaron T. Apr 1, 2014 7:46 AM in response to dmorris145
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    Apr 1, 2014 7:46 AM in response to dmorris145

    ...just repeating what Netflix said.

  • by tmartine,

    tmartine tmartine Apr 1, 2014 10:10 AM in response to zroger73
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    Apr 1, 2014 10:10 AM in response to zroger73

    they actually do here, but how can a particular HDMI cable solve this? it's a standard interface... sounds like passing the buck to me..

  • by Aaron T.,

    Aaron T. Aaron T. Apr 1, 2014 10:22 AM in response to tmartine
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    Apr 1, 2014 10:22 AM in response to tmartine

    ...i agree. Although I'm almost half curious to try it anyway.

  • by Camrox,

    Camrox Camrox Apr 1, 2014 2:25 PM in response to Aaron T.
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    Apr 1, 2014 2:25 PM in response to Aaron T.

    An optical fiber is an optical fiber, doesn't make sense to try another one.

     

    DD 5.1 broken here too after updating from 6.0.2

  • by ad5901,

    ad5901 ad5901 Apr 1, 2014 3:35 PM in response to Aaron T.
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    Apr 1, 2014 3:35 PM in response to Aaron T.

    Using Apple HDMI cable here and no dd5.1. Suspicious of netflix suggesting this as mentioned elsewhere no difference between HDMI cables!

  • by sebastian255,

    sebastian255 sebastian255 Apr 1, 2014 4:36 PM in response to Aaron T.
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    Apr 1, 2014 4:36 PM in response to Aaron T.

    The cable thing is complete nonsense, obviously.

     

    I think the problem has something to do with the way the Dolby Digital is encoded in Netflix's streams. In a ATV compatible clip, there must always be two-channel AAC audio. This must be the first audio track in the stream, and this is what we all hear since we installed the 6.1 update.

     

    Dolby Digital 5.1 has always been optional in ATV compatible clips, and if such a track is there, it must follow certain MPEG or ISO standards in order to get recognized and accepted by the ATV. We know that DD 5.1 has always been the second, optional track in Netflix streams, so that's certainly in order. But what if the DD 5.1 provided by Netflix doesn't comply with the standards and Apple only started checking with update 6.1?

     

    This would explain why the ATV falls back to 2.0. It also explains why version 6.1 accepts all streams with properly encoded DD, such as the ones provided by Apple or HBOgo. And I'm afraid it could mean that either Netflix would have to re-encode everything or Apple would have to loosen the rules again. And guess who's certainly not gonna give in on this.

     

    But hey, I'm just guessing wildly here.

     

     

    For further reading:

    http://support.apple.com/kb/TA25199

  • by kewlfocus,

    kewlfocus kewlfocus Apr 1, 2014 6:53 PM in response to peter aagaard
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    Apr 1, 2014 6:53 PM in response to peter aagaard

    Just adding that I'm having the same issue. I also noticed that the titles are no longer showing the Super HD logo when they all used to, totally weird. Definitely seems like someone mucked up the software this time.

  • by Chrisp250,

    Chrisp250 Chrisp250 Apr 1, 2014 9:09 PM in response to sebastian255
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    Apr 1, 2014 9:09 PM in response to sebastian255

    Hi Sebastian,

    I don't think that's the case because films that previously worked fine in 5.1 now are only stereo. I don't think Netflix would have re-encoded ALL the films with an incompatible audio stream.

    Maybe ATV 6.1 is pickier than previous versions when it comes to 5.1 audio? Still doesn't sound right to me though.

    Cheers

  • by sebastian255,

    sebastian255 sebastian255 Apr 2, 2014 11:22 AM in response to Chrisp250
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    Apr 2, 2014 11:22 AM in response to Chrisp250

    Chris, that the 6.1 update might be more picky about the DD encoding than earlier versions is exactly what I was assuming above. And I also said that if this was true Netflix might HAVE TO re-encode all Dolby Digital audio tracks in order to comply with the newly enforced standards. And this might simply take a while.

     

    Maybe it's just some metadata or index files that need to be changed on Netflix's side, but solving the problem can't be easy or they would have done it already. Maybe they've been busy re-encoding during the last two weeks, who knows. And maybe they can even convince Apple to release another, less "picky" update after all.

     

    Changing something in the Netflix app on the device probably won't help much. It's basically just a bunch of HTML code. All apps on the ATV use the same player. And other apps can play DD content via this player. So guess who's fault it is.

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