John Florence

Q: Disappearing iCloud Mail messages

On all devices, and at icloud.com.

I've noticed it in Sent messages when I look for the message five minutes after sending it, and it's gone. Only happens occasionally; has occured twice in the last two days. These missing sent messages are received. It may be happening in inbox also but if an unimportant email is missing I'd never notice it. Since it's happening at the source, icloud.com, it would seem to be an Apple server problem, right?

I'm using Mavericks and ios7.

Posted on Mar 4, 2014 10:36 AM

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  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Apr 2, 2014 11:28 AM in response to paul2104
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    Apr 2, 2014 11:28 AM in response to paul2104

    Your choices led you here.

     

    I care not about your multi award winning approach, it has gaps in it.

  • by paul2104,

    paul2104 paul2104 Apr 2, 2014 11:31 AM in response to paul2104
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    Apr 2, 2014 11:31 AM in response to paul2104

    I predict that in 1 year, 5 years, 10 years, or whenever, that Apple's email service will eventually no longer lose emails. I'd also like to think that forums like this can help that progress to happen, and that people shouldn't be afraid to make the problems known without fear of getting trolled.

  • by John Florence,

    John Florence John Florence Apr 2, 2014 11:32 AM in response to Csound1
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    Apr 2, 2014 11:32 AM in response to Csound1

    I can't believe someone is actually defending Apple losing emails. I'm a fanboy longtime Apple user and defender and I wouldn't go that far, no way.  Is it a free service? Not really. It's meant to tie users into the Apple ecosystem, and it's supposed to work.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Apr 2, 2014 11:32 AM in response to paul2104
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    Apr 2, 2014 11:32 AM in response to paul2104

    paul2104 wrote:

     

    I predict that

    Trolls often ignore the terms of use they previously agreed to.

     

    Just like you are now.

  • by paul2104,

    paul2104 paul2104 Apr 2, 2014 11:32 AM in response to Csound1
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    Apr 2, 2014 11:32 AM in response to Csound1

    Slightly smaller gaps than Apple's code

  • by paul2104,

    paul2104 paul2104 Apr 2, 2014 11:36 AM in response to paul2104
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    Apr 2, 2014 11:36 AM in response to paul2104

    A huge Apple fan too, since 1988 when I helped design one of their first ad campaigns. They won't continue to get better if they ignore things that don't work.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Apr 2, 2014 11:43 AM in response to paul2104
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    Apr 2, 2014 11:43 AM in response to paul2104

    paul2104 wrote:

     

    Slightly smaller gaps than Apple's code

     

    Or your configuration, the effectiveness of which is in some doubt.

     

    I use iCloud for personal use, I have never lost an email.

     

    And as my clients expect not to see a free domain at the end of my address, but would be more comfortable with email from a domain that belongs to my company, and as much as I want an email system that is prepared for business use, I don't use it for business.

     

    But YMMV

     

    Enough differing, goodbye and goodluck.

  • by NatashaLuggero,

    NatashaLuggero NatashaLuggero May 26, 2014 4:24 PM in response to Csound1
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    May 26, 2014 4:24 PM in response to Csound1

    Csound1 you're the worst. Thanks for being zero help and wasting everyones time. You must be pretty proud of that level 7 status...congrats on that.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 May 26, 2014 4:35 PM in response to NatashaLuggero
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    May 26, 2014 4:35 PM in response to NatashaLuggero

    Natasha. Thank you so much for waiting all this time to compliment me. I can tell how hard you have been working to achieve your level, you must be quite breathless now.

  • by paul2104,

    paul2104 paul2104 May 26, 2014 5:09 PM in response to Csound1
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    May 26, 2014 5:09 PM in response to Csound1

    The level 7 clearly doesn't relate to being helpful in any way.

     

    Csound1, what's your view on the fact that iCloud is used for file storage by thousands of apps – for which the end user DOES pay, and should therefore arguably expect a service from Apple that works properly.

     

    And given that it's code, aren't the hundreds of thousands of data loss errors something that the code is creating and are probably buried too deeply in the code to ever properly sort out?

     

    (don't worry, I'm not expecting you to say anything useful..)

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 May 26, 2014 5:39 PM in response to paul2104
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    May 26, 2014 5:39 PM in response to paul2104

    paul2104 wrote:

     

    Csound1, what's your view on the fact that iCloud is used for file storage by thousands of apps – for which the end user DOES pay, and should therefore arguably expect a service from Apple that works properly.

    If we were talking about file storage you would have a point.

     

    But we're not.

     

    iCloud email service is free.

  • by paul2104,

    paul2104 paul2104 May 26, 2014 5:52 PM in response to Csound1
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    May 26, 2014 5:52 PM in response to Csound1

    It's not free at all? All of it's coders get paid, and they get paid by me when I buy my Mac and buy my software updates.

     

    In what way do you reason that Apple produced it for free?

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 May 27, 2014 2:00 AM in response to paul2104
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    May 27, 2014 2:00 AM in response to paul2104

    paul2104 wrote:

     

    It's not free at all? All of it's coders get paid, and they get paid by me when I buy my Mac and buy my software updates.

     

    In what way do you reason that Apple produced it for free?

    Please don't play silly semantic games with me,

     

    Mavericks is free to purchase, if you can't understand that it's your problem.

     

    Bye

  • by paul2104,

    paul2104 paul2104 May 27, 2014 2:20 AM in response to Csound1
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    May 27, 2014 2:20 AM in response to Csound1

    It's not semantics at all. In Apple's accounts you will see that both icloud and icloud email are fully funded pieces of software. You are saying that if Apple funds them by an indirect rather than direct method, that frees them from any obligation to do the job properly. Commercial TV channels are free to the viewer too, but in reality the viewer obviously pays for every programme and no one is working for 'free'. It's not some big secret, and if those channels didn't do their job impeccably, they would go bust.

     

    It's not semantics, it's an age old funding method & you just no longer have an answer about why it makes sub-standard work either acceptable or good business sense.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 May 27, 2014 2:33 AM in response to paul2104
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    May 27, 2014 2:33 AM in response to paul2104

     

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