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Q: Finally managed to install Windows 8.1 Enterprise on MBP2010.

Hi.

 

After several hours of tweaking, I finally managed to install Windows 8.1 - or ANY Windows, for that matter - on my old MacBook.

 

Bootcamp has a few major flaws right now. I do no longer have an internal optical drive, so I had to use a usb flash drive or my usb optical drive. Both are unable to boot into the Setup for a MBR installation, only EFI works. That's looks like a bug in the firmware.

This in turn creates a major problem: the Boot Camp-Assistant creates a hybrid MBR, and Windows Setup can ONLY start in EFI mode - which does not allow installation on a hybrid MBR, only protected MBR.

You can try and use gpart

Posted on Apr 14, 2014 4:59 PM

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  • by pumar,

    pumar pumar Apr 14, 2014 5:30 PM in response to pumar
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    Apr 14, 2014 5:30 PM in response to pumar

    Seriously? Accidently hit submit, edited my post to complete it and now everythings gone? Great!

     

    So, for the second time - you can try and use gDISK to reroll to the protected MBR, then reinstall, fail at the end of the installation, fix the EFI, fix the BCD, resume the installation and fail again because the "hardware is incompatible"; I guess the Bootcamp EFI is still incompatible to the one Windows expects.

     

    Means: no native EFI installation. At least for my hardware. I needed to install Windows on MBR, while booting into the EFI installer, because no other Setup would start. This meant installing Windows manually.

     

    I needed to recreate the Bootcamp partition with the Assistant, then reboot into the Windows setup (DVD or flash shouldn't matter)

    Hit Shift+F10 for the console.

    Manually create the partition with diskpart:

         dism /apply-image /imagefile:D:\sources\install.wim /index:1 /applydir:C:\

         Notice: C is the newly formatted NTFS drive, D is the DVD/whatever.

    After that's finished, write a new MBR and new Bootloader:

         bootsect /nt60 C: /force /mbr

         bcdboot C:\Windows /s C:

         I guess you could also pick a language there, with /l de-DE or whatever.

    Then reboot and hope for the best. Setup should continue from the hard drive and finish.

     

    Since that's pretty much again (...) off the top of my head, I might've missed something.

    I did install rEFIt before, but that should not be required for this to work.

     

    Good luck!

  • by turbostar,

    turbostar turbostar Apr 14, 2014 6:41 PM in response to pumar
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    Apr 14, 2014 6:41 PM in response to pumar

    sorry it's a pain, but this right here is your issue. it is simple if all the required components are present and/or working correctly

    pumar wrote:

     

    I do no longer have an internal optical drive, so I had to use a usb flash drive or my usb optical drive.

  • by pumar,

    pumar pumar Apr 15, 2014 9:52 AM in response to turbostar
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    Apr 15, 2014 9:52 AM in response to turbostar

    Absolutely, but a) not everyone has a (working) internal drive or b) wants to use DVDs. I replaced mine years ago with an SSD.

    Most tutorials work for some Macbooks, but clearly not all. This should be rather failsafe, albeit complex. Also, I don't think Apple lists the DVD drive to be internal as a requirement.

     

    This could all be fixed by a few minor firmware upgrades, fixing bugs that are around for ages... but I'm afraid Apple simply doesn't care enough.

  • by turbostar,

    turbostar turbostar Apr 15, 2014 10:26 AM in response to pumar
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    Apr 15, 2014 10:26 AM in response to pumar

    It is a requirement if your machine originally had a DVD drive, but you're asking Apple to be accomodating to a set of people that, in their POV, is small and likely getting smaller.

     

    Related, google usb boot camp hack.

    pumar wrote:

     

    I don't think Apple lists the DVD drive to be internal as a requirement.

     

  • by pumar,

    pumar pumar Apr 15, 2014 11:16 AM in response to turbostar
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    Apr 15, 2014 11:16 AM in response to turbostar

    While it's not a far fetched assumption, I haven't found any official page stating this. It would be nice if the Boot Camp assistant would tell me that external DVD drives won't work, although it would be even nicer if it would just work.

     

    Regarding the "hack": it's of course one of the first things I've done. But it wouldn't work on my machine; non-EFI boot seems to work ONLY off of the internal drives - flash drives are as external as usb opticals, and therefore don't work. Which is exactly why I posted my solution to the problem.

     

    And I absolutely have to agree, the set of people is small and will get smaller. It would just be... nice. You know, to easily be able to install Windows on a three year old machine (via USB). Or to be able to install it at all (with no internal drive). While directly affecting only a small circle, it's portrayed image isn't exactly positive... but I'm starting to ramble. Anyway, maybe this helps somebody.

  • by Nuno_spl,

    Nuno_spl Nuno_spl Apr 16, 2014 8:18 AM in response to pumar
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    Apr 16, 2014 8:18 AM in response to pumar

    Another way that I found to install Windows 7 on my MBP, is removing the HD and putting into another laptop (I used an old Acer Laptop) and started installation of Windows 7 using USB or Optical Drive.

    After started  installation, when Windows start the first reboot I removed the HD.

    Put back the hard drive on MBP and finish the installation without problem.

     

     

    Not the easiest way but worked.

    (Just be carefull with your partions If you´re using dual boot with the same HD)

  • by Chad711,

    Chad711 Chad711 Apr 16, 2014 5:53 PM in response to pumar
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    Apr 16, 2014 5:53 PM in response to pumar

    @pumar Can you give more detailed instructions and maybe break them down a little more? I'm not sure what all those steps mean you posted. I have the exact same problem as you. Mid 2010 and it won't boot from USB. I also have my optical disk removed. Thanks

  • by Dio_Brando,

    Dio_Brando Dio_Brando Apr 25, 2014 12:14 PM in response to Chad711
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    Apr 25, 2014 12:14 PM in response to Chad711

    I have the same request.

    I own a Mac Mini 2010 and the hardware is basically equal to Mac Book Pro 2010.

     

    How did u solve the driver problem with Win 8.1?

    Is audio working?