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Apr 21, 2014 2:33 AM in response to Dawsey Brownby snozdop,As iCloud is primarily designed as a sync service for iOS devices (with Mac & PC integration), and has little use for people who don't have at least one iOS device there's not much point providing a means for non-Apple owners to sign up.
Most people have enough site log-ins and passwords to remember as it is. I doubt very many people are going to be too happy at being forced to sign up for yet another service they never intend to use, just to look at someone's holiday or baby snaps, giving away their email address for the privilege.
That's why Apple provides a way to publicly share your Shared Photostreams with non-iCloud users. The public URLs are very obscure, (e.g. https://www.icloud.com/photostream/#A45oqs3qiu3sb ) so the chances of someone guessing or stumbling across your photos is rather slim, but that doesn't stop one of your friends sharing the URL with someone else. Public Photostreams are also not indexed by search engines, so although the URLs are publicly accessible, they are not actually publicised.
And remember, no matter how you share your photos, nothing on the internet is 100% watertight. Anyone you (privately) share your photos with could easily just send them in an email to others if they wanted.
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Apr 26, 2014 2:29 PM in response to lpal1by dsmith77,For all those people who think there is NO REASON for a PC USER without any apple devices to need a way to sign up for an icloud account on a PC...
Go to this link. It's a wonderful, thoughtful article that links to a source PDF. The source PDF is hosted on iCloud and I would like download and read it.
BUT
I
CAN'T
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Apr 26, 2014 2:53 PM in response to dsmith77by Csound1,dsmith77 wrote:
For all those people who think there is NO REASON for a PC USER without any apple devices to need a way to sign up for an icloud account on a PC...
Go to this link. It's a wonderful, thoughtful article that links to a source PDF. The source PDF is hosted on iCloud and I would like download and read it.
BUT
I
CAN'T
Here's the file
It took 2 minutes to download as a pdf, is that what you want?
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Apr 26, 2014 3:08 PM in response to Csound1by dsmith77,I only see a PNG image as I am using Windows 8.1, but the image I see looks like the blog post saved as a PDF. The file I want is a separate PDF file from a link in the second paragraph of the article. I spent a good 30 minutes trying to find a way to get it.
The link is: http://web.me.com/gregdeclue/Site/Volume_1__2009_files/2009-excerpt-Vrij.pdf
For whatever reason, it redirects me to an iCloud login.
I have working dropbox and box.net accounts that I can access if that helps. Thank you for your help.
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Apr 26, 2014 3:20 PM in response to dsmith77by Csound1,That link took me to this page:
And this is the link itself: http://www.port.ac.uk/department-of-psychology/staff/professor-aldert-vrij.html
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Apr 26, 2014 4:57 PM in response to Csound1by dsmith77,I think that's the first link. There are three in that paragraph. The file I want is supposed to be the second link.
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Apr 26, 2014 5:01 PM in response to dsmith77by Csound1,I'm not going to keep guessing which one. Identify the link that you want
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Apr 26, 2014 5:04 PM in response to dsmith77by Csound1,dsmith77 wrote:
The link is: http://web.me.com/gregdeclue/Site/Volume_1__2009_files/2009-excerpt-Vrij.pdf
That's a Mobile Me site, and Mobile Me has closed a while back, sorry.
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Apr 26, 2014 5:28 PM in response to Csound1by dsmith77,Well, that explains it. That site and file no longer exist in that location.
Oh well, thanks for your help.
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Apr 26, 2014 5:43 PM in response to dsmith77by Csound1,You're welcome.
And try using Google to search for the file name, it may be available at another location.
I just tried a quick search and found this: http://www.forensicpsychologyunbound.ws/OAJFP/Volume_1__2009_files/2009-excerpt- Vrij.pdf
It may be what you are looking for, if not, keep looking.
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Apr 28, 2014 6:37 AM in response to Csound1by dsmith77,That might be it. Thank you. It didn't occur to me to google the filename as it had "excerpt" in the title. I have already emailed the article author and the publication author.
Thanks again for your help.
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May 7, 2014 8:56 PM in response to freakkkby sbarik,I need to access iCloud for backup, since my iPhone just decided to freeze the screen and ALL the buttons, including Power and Home (those are the only two anyway). So, I was going to use iTunes through my PC to resurrect it. But not without backing up. I don't have any other Apple product. So, what do I do now?
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Aug 13, 2014 6:06 PM in response to lpal1by Alphaman.,For those wondering why a non-Apple user would want an iCloud account:
- To access Calendar services. Calendar on iCloud is available as a iCal service and a web service, allowing for many devices to access your calendar.*
- Mail is a standard IMAP based service and also accessible via a web interface.
- Reminders are standard iCal services and accessible via the web.
- Contacts are accessible via CardDav and web.
- Outlook no longer connects to Google as Google has deprecated their old connector. iCloud Control Panel is the only free method for integrating Outlook** directly with the push-enabled iCal, Mail, Tasks, and Contacts.
- Photos can be shared from the iCloud Pictures folder synchronized via iCloud Control Panel.
- Bookmarks can be shared between Firefox, IE, and Chrome.
- And to top it off, this is the only way non-Apple users can access the iWork suite.
All of the above services, including the web-based services, come with no ads cluttering up the user interface or reading your emails to create a master profile of your reading and thought habits to sell to third party vendors.
Why would a non-Apple user not want to use iCloud?
* Google egregiously restricts access to iCloud Calendar services, claiming that they can't crawl the service due to Apple's robots.txt. This is a lie (an iCal client is not a robot and does not "crawl" an iCal server and should never even request the robots.txt file), and is yet another way that Google tries to force you into their ecosystem by not allowing connections to other standards based services (e.g., Outlook connector killed, IMAP standard bastardized, iCal marginalized). This is relatively easily circumvented by using an iCal proxy; search for yourselves, as many are doing it with a few lines of PHP or Perl.
** Microsoft engineering has repeatedly integrated iCal support into Outlook during the beta phase of their development. When it comes time to go RTM on the product, management has repeatedly made engineering pull out the iCal support, so that Outlook will only fully integrate with Exchange servers. This has happened with every release since Office 2003, at least that I am personally aware of.

