HT5096: Time Machine: How to transfer backups from the current backup drive to a new backup drive

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canuckcindy

Q: Anyone else having problems with Step 6 and permissions to do this?

Technical info: MacBook Air 11 in, OS X 10.7.5

 

So I bought a new external hard drive (My Passport for Mac)...with the intention of making this my new TM backup destination.  Old TM was on one of two partitions on another external drive (another My Passport for Mac), my iphoto library on the second partition (you can understand why I wanted to separate the two).

 

Tried following the steps in the support article http://support.apple.com/kb/ht5096 - under the guidance of an AppleCare senior technician and when I got to Step 6

  1. Make sure "Ignore ownership on this volume" at the bottom of the "Sharing & Permissions:" section is not checked.

I couldn't see how to do this anywhere (and neither could the technician).  So we skipped it.

 

I then got to Step 11. "Drag the folder "Backups.backupdb" on the current backup drive to the root level of the new backup drive" and I received some error about owner not having permission.

 

So then I was told to change the permissions of the TM backup file...and it sat on this little "progress" screen for hours...searched the internet for how long this would take and came across a community support post somewhat related https://discussions.apple.com/message/15009542#15009542 where one was advised NEVER to change permissions and NEVER to go into the time machine individual files...

 

Called AppleCare back and another senior technician assured me that it's perfectly safe to go into Time Machine individual files...just don't change them or cut them...copy them...he also suggested that I not try and transfer the old TM backup file into the new drive and simply start with a new backup...and then to SAVE my old database under a modified name and simply access the specific files if I need them...

 

Couple of SUGGESTIONS for Apple:

 

1) it seems that changing permissions takes a long time which isn't a back thing because I guess it's applying changes to every file etc...BUT it would be nice to have a little progress bar on each TM folder (you know, like the progress bars you see when you rip CD's to electronic format for each file it's working on)

 

2) I'd like to know why I'm having this problem in the first place.  When I bought this computer, I had Apple transfer the stuff from my PC to my MacBook Air.  I've never had to restore a backup from TM

 

3) About 3 weeks ago, there was an update notification from Apple so I started the process and left the computer (plugged in and on wifi).  When I came back there was some message saying it couldn't complete the upgrade and when I tried to reboot my computer it wouldn't.  Took it to an Authorized Apple fixer place who basically said it was probably because the internet connection was interrupted (Apple system should be more robust than this) and I think all they had to do was reinstall my operating system...not sure exactly how they did this...and if that is causing concerns with my existing permissions issue above.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Cindy

 


MacBook Air (11-inch Mid 2011), Mac OS X (10.7.5)

Posted on Jan 19, 2014 3:57 PM

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Q: Anyone else having problems with Step 6 and permissions to do this?

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  • by SuperSizeIt,

    SuperSizeIt SuperSizeIt May 2, 2014 9:08 AM in response to canuckcindy
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    May 2, 2014 9:08 AM in response to canuckcindy

    Have you received an answer yet? This KB instructions from Apple doesn't work at all. You will get an error about not having permissions to modify a certain file/files within the "Backups.backupdb" folder. Don't bother writing down the file and opening up the "Backups.backupdb" to modify those files, it will just muck up the entire TM Backup.

     

    The knowledge base article should be pulled by Apple until Apple fixes this problem. I suspect it only happens with Mavericks and not the previous system.

  • by Eric Root,

    Eric Root Eric Root May 2, 2014 10:19 AM in response to SuperSizeIt
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    May 2, 2014 10:19 AM in response to SuperSizeIt

    Try using Applications/Utilities/Disk Utility/Restore - read the warning because it will reformat the drive.

     

    Apple doesn’t routinely monitor the discussions. These are mostly user to user discussions.

     

    Send Apple feedback. They won't answer, but at least will know there is a problem. If enough people send feedback, it may get the problem solved sooner.

     

    Feedback

  • by Ralph Johns (UK),

    Ralph Johns (UK) Ralph Johns (UK) May 2, 2014 2:17 PM in response to canuckcindy
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    May 2, 2014 2:17 PM in response to canuckcindy

    Hi,

     

    I have the check box on a second Partition  but not on the Time Machine one

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    I forget what I did now to get this called "Recovery HD"

     

    For the rest try https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-4055  User Tip that links to Pondini's work on Time Machine.

     

     

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    10:17 pm      Friday; May 2, 2014

     

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  • by SuperSizeIt,

    SuperSizeIt SuperSizeIt May 2, 2014 2:34 PM in response to Eric Root
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    May 2, 2014 2:34 PM in response to Eric Root

    Ok I will try that scenario and will report back if it works. It will take several hours to finish. Thanks for the tip.  

  • by SuperSizeIt,

    SuperSizeIt SuperSizeIt May 3, 2014 2:54 PM in response to Eric Root
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    May 3, 2014 2:54 PM in response to Eric Root

    The tip from Eric works perfectly. Be patient as it may take several hours to complete, but it will get the job done. Thanks again Eric.