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Q: Why do long exports "garble" at 05:57:56?  Video exports fine otherwise. FCP 10.1.1  New Mac Pro

I believe I started having this issue at 10.1.0  I  hoped upgrading would help.

 

I have routinely exported 11 hour long videos from FCP in the past.

 

New Mac Pro cylinder currently, but issue also happened on my MBP prior.

 

So, new install on new computer, same problem.  I've dittched preferences. I used the repair feature in Digital Rebellion App.

 

Any suggestions?

Mac Pro, OS X Mavericks (10.9.2)

Posted on Mar 16, 2014 1:33 AM

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Q: Why do long exports "garble" at 05:57:56?  Video exports fine otherwise. FCP 10.1.1  New Mac Pro

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  • by Alchroma,

    Alchroma Alchroma Mar 16, 2014 1:37 AM in response to LucidTV
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    Mar 16, 2014 1:37 AM in response to LucidTV

    Can you try exporting a short section around the time of the "garbled" bit, like 5 minutes before and after?

     

    This wil eliminate that that section is good or bad.

     

    Al

  • by LucidTV,

    LucidTV LucidTV Mar 16, 2014 2:35 AM in response to Alchroma
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    Mar 16, 2014 2:35 AM in response to Alchroma

    I had, and just tried again, the video export fine around that time frame. 

     

    No matter what video I use, or export setting, the video garbles only after 05:57:56

  • by Alchroma,

    Alchroma Alchroma Mar 16, 2014 3:55 AM in response to LucidTV
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    Mar 16, 2014 3:55 AM in response to LucidTV

    No sure what is wrong.

     

    Deleting render files may help.

     

    Al

  • by LucidTV,

    LucidTV LucidTV Mar 18, 2014 1:00 AM in response to Alchroma
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    Mar 18, 2014 1:00 AM in response to Alchroma

    stand by...  a 6:08:00 render seems to have worked using a few version of compressor .

     

    By the graces of dual D700 I shall return shortly with an update on long FCP X exports...

  • by LucidTV,

    LucidTV LucidTV Mar 20, 2014 10:55 AM in response to LucidTV
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    Mar 20, 2014 10:55 AM in response to LucidTV

    I can confirm that very long exports now work when exporting using Compressor.  I had not yet installed Compressor on the new Mac Pro. 

     

    I will re-rest using direct output from FCP to see if it works now. 

  • by LucidTV,

    LucidTV LucidTV May 22, 2014 4:13 AM in response to LucidTV
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    May 22, 2014 4:13 AM in response to LucidTV

    I can no longer export compressed videos longer than 05:57:56 even using Compressor.

     

    Mac Pro (late 2013)

    10.9.3

    FCPX 10.1.1

    Compressor 4.1.1

     

    To be clear, I can export an 11 hour Master clip from FCPX.   But then I have not way of compressing these clips for further use.

     

    Compressor does not work.  Direct from FCPX does not work.  Direct from Quicktime does not work.

     

    I upgraded to a fully loaded Mac Pro because of these long exports.  I really need help with this.

     

    love

  • by Russ H,

    Russ H Russ H May 22, 2014 4:37 AM in response to LucidTV
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    May 22, 2014 4:37 AM in response to LucidTV

    LucidTV wrote:

     

    or 4.1.1

     

    To be clear, I can export an 11 hour Master clip from FCPX.   But then I have not way of compressing these clips for further use.

     

    What format are your original media? And what specifically to you mean by compressing for future use. What are the export settings that are producing these results?

     

    Russ

  • by LucidTV,

    LucidTV LucidTV May 22, 2014 5:00 AM in response to Russ H
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    May 22, 2014 5:00 AM in response to Russ H

    Original media is:

     

    11 hour long

    ProRes 422, Linear PCM, Timecode,

     

    Compressing for upload to YouTube .

     

    Export settings from Compressor:  HD 720p from the "Video Sharing Services".

     

    I've testing using multiple export methods.  Same problem, at 05:57:56 the video becomes garbled as if it's compressed at extreme low bitrates.  Audio seems fine.

     

    I've been doing these videos for over 2 years now... Only after FCX 10.1.0 did the issue show up.

     

    love

  • by Russ H,

    Russ H Russ H May 22, 2014 6:19 AM in response to LucidTV
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    May 22, 2014 6:19 AM in response to LucidTV

    LucidTV wrote:

     

    I've been doing these videos for over 2 years now... Only after FCX 10.1.0 did the issue show up.

    So if the PR Master File is OK and if you're bringing it into Compressor as a stand-alone video file, it sounds to me more like a Compressor problem than a FCP X problem.

     

    That said, I have zero experience in working with such long duration movies and just guessing at what might be going on. Have you tried exporting from FCP X as a master file using the Web Hosting settings? That would give you an H.264 MOV with slightly lower bit rates than the YT preset uses, but I would expect the quality to be pretty decent…if it works.

     

    Russ

  • by LucidTV,

    LucidTV LucidTV May 22, 2014 7:32 AM in response to Russ H
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    May 22, 2014 7:32 AM in response to Russ H

    Exporting fails from FCX (other than Master), Quicktime (export 720p) or Compressor all fail.

     

    Just failed test:  using master file exporting in Compressor using the "Apple Device" setting.

     

    Previsously in this thread, I said I had success. I think this was using an old export setting in compressor.  I can't find that setting now that I've upgraded. 

     

    I feel like I tried it all, but will try the "web hosting" settings you suggest.

  • by Luis Sequeira1,

    Luis Sequeira1 Luis Sequeira1 May 22, 2014 8:22 AM in response to LucidTV
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    May 22, 2014 8:22 AM in response to LucidTV

    If you can't compress a movie that large, maybe the following workaround will do: export the movie in two (or more) sections, and use an utility like catmovie (from the QTCoffee free utilities) to collate them.

     

    And, if you don't mind, can you tells *why* would you *require* 11 hour movies? (Just curious)

  • by LucidTV,

    LucidTV LucidTV May 22, 2014 9:49 AM in response to LucidTV
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    May 22, 2014 9:49 AM in response to LucidTV

    Exporting the 11 hour file from FCPX has worked using the "export file" setting.  I was surprised at how short a time it took to export.

     

    I'm also testing the suggested "Master" setting tuned to h.264 in view of upload to YouTube.  Will report.

  • by LucidTV,

    LucidTV LucidTV May 22, 2014 9:54 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1
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    May 22, 2014 9:54 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1

    Thanks Louis, those options could have worked to get a file out, but the software is not optimized for use with the new Mac Pro fully loaded that I'm using.  I've just posted that I was able to finally export from FCPX directly using the "Export File" option. 

     

    My 11+ hour long relaxations videos are very popular on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psdLqhWmhe8&list=PLT6TY7eRibNxmCm-s_DtWfzYwQPQIxY mQ&feature=share

     

    If you are curious, I discovered that people liked long videos after I had posted my own recording of 7+ hours of vacuum cleaner sound.  Yes... vacuum cleaner hehehe... very long story, it's my fav "white noise" sound since, well, birth.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hERLH3Q-hCQ  for the first vac sound uploaded.

  • by Russ H,

    Russ H Russ H May 22, 2014 10:03 AM in response to LucidTV
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    May 22, 2014 10:03 AM in response to LucidTV

    LucidTV wrote:

     

    Exporting the 11 hour file from FCPX has worked using the "export file" setting.  I was surprised at how short a time it took to export.

     

    Pro Res gives blazing fast exports. (I'm assuming that's what you used.)

     

    Hope the web hosting setting works for you.

     

    Russ