dutchgirlfromcanada

Q: i just upgraded to fiber optic and macmini will NOT connect. macbook does, PC does. Help

MacMini crashes as soon it detects internet. Can only access drive when ALL internet/wifi/router/other computers in the house are turned off.

Tried exchanging cables, even went as far as to buy a new refurbished one, thought old one had died. Tried different cables, you name it, I tried it. Still same problem

Mac mini, Mac OS X (10.6.4)

Posted on Jun 8, 2014 1:39 PM

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Q: i just upgraded to fiber optic and macmini will NOT connect. macbook does, PC does. Help

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  • by BDAqua,

    BDAqua BDAqua Jun 8, 2014 1:44 PM in response to dutchgirlfromcanada
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    Jun 8, 2014 1:44 PM in response to dutchgirlfromcanada

    Hello,

     

    Make a New Location, Using network locations in Mac OS X ...

     

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2712

     

    10.5, 10.6, 10.7 & 10.8…

     

    System Preferences>Network, top of window>Locations>Edit Locations, little plus icon, give it a name.

     

     

    10.5.x/10.6.x/10.7.x/10.8.x instructions...

     

    System Preferences>Network, click on the little gear at the bottom next to the + & - icons, (unlock lock first if locked), choose Set Service Order.

     

    The interface that connects to the Internet should be dragged to the top of the list.

     

    If using Wifi/Airport...

     

    Instead of joining your Network from the list, click the WiFi icon at the top, and click join other network. Fill in everything as needed.

     

    For 10.5/10.6/10.7/10.8, System Preferences>Network, unlock the lock if need be, highlight the Interface you use to connect to Internet, click on the advanced button, click on the DNS tab, click on the little plus icon, then add these numbers...

     

    208.67.222.222

    208.67.220.220

     

    (There may be better or faster DNS numbers in your area, but these should be a good test).

    Click OK.

  • by dutchgirlfromcanada,

    dutchgirlfromcanada dutchgirlfromcanada Jun 8, 2014 1:59 PM in response to BDAqua
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    Jun 8, 2014 1:59 PM in response to BDAqua

    Would love to follow your suggestions. Thing is, network and macmini mutually exclude eachother.

    When I fire up my mini, with the network active, the mini won't run. Reversely, when the network is

    powered off, the mini will work, but the other computers aren't able to access the network.

    I haven't been able to assess whether the mini, when running 'solo', is able to access the network.

    Bottom line: the one blocks the other.

     

    Thanks

  • by BDAqua,

    BDAqua BDAqua Jun 8, 2014 2:09 PM in response to dutchgirlfromcanada
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    Jun 8, 2014 2:09 PM in response to dutchgirlfromcanada

    Well, I think I'd try it with Network disconnected, then after restarting connect the Network back up.

  • by dutchgirlfromcanada,

    dutchgirlfromcanada dutchgirlfromcanada Jun 8, 2014 2:45 PM in response to BDAqua
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    Jun 8, 2014 2:45 PM in response to BDAqua

    The mini runs fine when modem and related gear are turned off. It can even access the internet when modem is turned back on.(Provided all other computers are off) Problem is that in that modus other computers can't access the internet. And vice versa. It's quite a mess...



  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Jun 8, 2014 3:17 PM in response to dutchgirlfromcanada
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    Jun 8, 2014 3:17 PM in response to dutchgirlfromcanada

    What exactly happens when it crashes?

  • by dutchgirlfromcanada,

    dutchgirlfromcanada dutchgirlfromcanada Jun 8, 2014 3:25 PM in response to Linc Davis
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    Jun 8, 2014 3:25 PM in response to Linc Davis

    Hi Linc, not sure how to answer that, it crashes, NOTHING happens, kinda like a black hole. about ready to throw it off the balcony. Crashed like a PC, know what I mean?

    Kinda like-  you know - when a car crashes it doesnt work anymore...NOTHING works. crashed!

  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Jun 8, 2014 3:29 PM in response to dutchgirlfromcanada
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    Jun 8, 2014 3:29 PM in response to dutchgirlfromcanada

    How do you recover?

  • by dutchgirlfromcanada,

    dutchgirlfromcanada dutchgirlfromcanada Jun 8, 2014 3:46 PM in response to Linc Davis
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    Jun 8, 2014 3:46 PM in response to Linc Davis

    Valium. Lots of it!

     

    Kidding. If I understand you right you're asking what I do after my system freezes?

    Lots of experimenting has taught me, what I mentioned earlier: it's either this mini

    that runs, thereby blocking any other computer in my household from the local network,

    being one PC HP laptop and one Macbook. Or the other way around: if another computer

    is already on the network, it, or some configuration of it, blocks, no, terminates the mini.

  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Jun 8, 2014 4:21 PM in response to dutchgirlfromcanada
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    Jun 8, 2014 4:21 PM in response to dutchgirlfromcanada

    If I'm understanding your description, the broadband device is operating in bridge mode. That means the Internet connection can't be shared among devices on your network, but only one of them can use it at a time. You need to switch the device over to routing mode, or else connect a separate router to it.

  • by dutchgirlfromcanada,

    dutchgirlfromcanada dutchgirlfromcanada Jun 8, 2014 4:27 PM in response to Linc Davis
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    Jun 8, 2014 4:27 PM in response to Linc Davis

    Nope, not it, PC and Macbook both work connected at the same time.

  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Jun 8, 2014 4:34 PM in response to dutchgirlfromcanada
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    Jun 8, 2014 4:34 PM in response to dutchgirlfromcanada

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    11. When the test is complete, quit Terminal. The results will have been copied to the Clipboard automatically. They are not shown in the Terminal window. Please don't copy anything from there. All you have to do is start a reply to this comment and then paste by pressing command-V again.

    At the top of the results, there will be a line that begins with "Model Identifier." If you don't see that, but instead see a mass of gibberish, you didn't wait for the "Process completed" message to appear in the Terminal window. Please wait for it and try again.

    If any private information, such as your name or email address, appears in the results, anonymize it before posting. Usually that won't be necessary.

    12. When you post the results, you might see the message, "You have included content in your post that is not permitted." It means that the forum software has misidentified something in the post as a violation of the rules. If that happens, please post the test results on Pastebin, then post a link here to the page you created.

    Note: This is a public forum, and others may give you advice based on the results of the test. They speak only for themselves, and I don't necessarily agree with them.

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