ryane84

Q: how do i make the same song have two different genre

how do i make the same song have 2 different genre for 2 different playlist?

iPod nano, Windows 7

Posted on Jun 17, 2014 5:00 PM

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Q: how do i make the same song have two different genre

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  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 Jun 17, 2014 5:12 PM in response to ryane84
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    Jun 17, 2014 5:12 PM in response to ryane84

    See your other thread.

     

    tt2

  • by ryane84,

    ryane84 ryane84 Jun 17, 2014 6:36 PM in response to turingtest2
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    Jun 17, 2014 6:36 PM in response to turingtest2

    thanks but is this the only way to do this?is there any other way to have the same song to have have different genre from one playlist to another playlist

  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 Jun 18, 2014 2:20 AM in response to ryane84
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    Jun 18, 2014 2:20 AM in response to ryane84

    Yes. You need two different copies of the song if you want it to have different tag properties.

     

    Why do you feel you need the genre to be different in the two playlists? Why can't it have the genre that most properly applies to it, and leave it at that?

     

    tt2

  • by the fiend,

    the fiend the fiend Jun 19, 2014 9:18 AM in response to ryane84
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    Jun 19, 2014 9:18 AM in response to ryane84

    I confess, I have songs that I would like in two genres! There is a solution.

    You could create a Smart Playlist for one of the genres, and in that Playlist you could have all of the second genre and the extra song from the first genre.

     

    Example:

    • Genre A and genre B
    • You want song "C", with genre A, to be in genre B as well.
    • Edit song "C"'s tags so that the Grouping has "B" in it (without the quote marks).
    • Create a Smart Playlist with the following rules:
      • match any of the following rules
      • Genre is A
      • Grouping is B
      • name the Playlist Two Genres (for example)

     

    I was going to add a picture here, to show how the Playlist is set up, but it's all gone Pete Tong since the maintenance time!

     

    The resulting Playlist will have every song with a genre of A and that song in genre B that also has Grouping B written to it.


    Of course, this means that to play genre B, you will actually need to play the Playlist Two Genres. If you end up with several Playlists that have multiple genres like that, then if it helps you, you could drop the Two Genres playlist into a Playlist Folder named "Genres" so that you can find them more easily.

  • by ryane84,

    ryane84 ryane84 Jun 20, 2014 2:33 PM in response to the fiend
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    Jun 20, 2014 2:33 PM in response to the fiend


    whats a smart playlist?and how do I create one?

  • by the fiend,

    the fiend the fiend Jun 20, 2014 4:34 PM in response to ryane84
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    Jun 20, 2014 4:34 PM in response to ryane84

    In my example, we will create a Smart Playlist that includes all songs in the genre Acid Jazz and one extra song that has the genre of Afro-beat. That extra song will be "Music For Gong Gong". To create your Smart Playlist, substitute the genre types and the song title (anything with <  > around it) for the ones you want.

     

    In your iTunes Library, either click on the + symbol in the lower left corner of iTunes playlists, or click CTRL+ALT+N to create a New Smart Playlist. The following will appear (my orange numbering):

    ryane01.png

     

    1. Using the drop-down menus, change "Artist" to Genre, "contains" to is and in the text box (marked 1) type in the text <Acid Jazz> (remember to chose the genre you want, and with the exact spelling used for that genre in your library - don't type in the <  > obviously!)

    2. Click on the + symbol at the end of that line (marked 2), which creates an additional line

    3. In this new line, change "Artist" to Grouping, change "contains" to is and in the text box type in <Acid Jazz> (Notice that I have used the same name as the genre itself. You don''t have to, but it makes it easier to add those extra songs. You'll understand why in step 7.) You now have a box like this:

    ryane02.png

    4. Change the Match rule at the top (notice it has already changed in the two screenshots above) to any. This is a crucial step, do not forget it.

    ryane03.png

    5. Notice that I have also selected Match only ticked items. This is optional, but selecting it will exclude songs that have been unticked. If you use Sync only ticked songs and videos, this can be useful way of keeping the Playlist the same as the one on your device.

    6. Click the OK button. You now have the opportunity to name your Playlist. I have chosen <Genre is Acid Jazz +> so that it is obvious what it is.

    ryane04.png

     

    So that's the Playlist created. As you can see, <Genre is Acid Jazz +> has 89 songs in it and I can assure you that's how many songs are in the Acid Jazz genre section. Now, all that remains is to add the additional song.

     

    7. Find your "two-genre" song and click File/Get Info/Info (or CTRL+I - that's an "eye") to bring up the edit song option. In the Grouping field, type in <Acid Jazz> (remember to use the same text you used in the Grouping box in step 3. This means you only have to type in the same genre name to the Grouping box,  to get it into that particular Playlist. I mentioned this in step 3).

    ryane05.png

     

    • Notice that we are not changing the Genre. Click the OK button.
    • Now look at the Playlist <Genre is Acid Jazz +> again.

    ryane06.png

    • Notice that is now has 90 songs and at number 60 is the <Music For Gong Gong>. Note that the genre for that song is still Afro-beat, so the song still appears in the genre Afro-beat as well.
    • To add any other song to this particular two-genre Playlist, simply find the song in your Library and type <Acid Jazz> into the Grouping box, as in step 7. It's that simple!

     

    Here's an extra tip. Too many Playlists and having issues finding your way through them?

    I have renamed the Playlist Genre is Acid Jazz + so that it is now named Acid Jazz Plus and I've dropped it into a Playlists Folder named GENRES (capitals makes it easy to find the folders on iDevices).

    ryane07.png

     

    Notice that here in iTunes, Playlists are sorted in the following order:

    • Playlist Folders (and then the Smart Playlists and Regular Playlists inside it)
    • Smart Playlists
    • Regular Playlists

    ... but on my iPod Classic (for example), they are sorted in alphabetical order. So to find the Playlist Acid Jazz Plus, go into the Playlists menu and scroll down to G, go into GENRES, and in there will be Acid Jazz Plus, with all 90 songs!

     

    I hope you will give this a try, you have nothing to lose but a little time. Let us (all) know how you get on with it. We'd like to know.