Ralph Johns (UK)

Q: @mac.com and @me.com names to end as Valid AIM Names

Hello everyone,

 

Apple released this Document a little while ago now.

It's title is:-

 

OS X: Using me.com or mac.com IDs with AIM in iChat requires OS X v10.7.2 or later

 

The short version seems to be that as Apple IDs they will no longer be working AIM valid Screen Names after the 30th of June 2014

 

Previously any old @mac.com ID would work as a AIM login whether it had originally been a Paid for Account, one that had Lapsed or the Trial Account during the .Mac period or as an "iChat Name" one that was registered during the MobileMe days.

 

@me.com names only worked whilst they were paid for, the period your trial was active or at the cross over point with iCloud  where they were iCloud issued Names (were "converted" to iCloud).

 

To work as AIM valid Screen Names the password with Apple had to comply with the 16 Character limit with the AIM Server.

 

At iChat 6 the App and the names (mainly iCloud linked ones) were subject to the app logging in to both AIM and Apple as a means of verifying the Password.

This continues in Messages.

This did mean that the @mac.com names worked in iChat 5 and earlier as they did not have this iCloud double check as it were.

@me.com and @icloud.com names linked to an iCloud account have never worked in iChat 5 or earlier.

 

It appears the Apple IDs in question will still function for iMessages, FaceTime  and other places you might used - even if not linked to an iCloud account.

It is only as an AIM valid Screen Name that it will stop working.

 

AIM have been sending reminders to your AIM Screen Name in Messages

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The Document implies but does not state that these IDs will work in later version of the OS.

However @mac.com names have never been subject to this double check Login so it seems likely they will fail there as well.

(Same applies to any old @me.com that have never been linked to iCloud.)

 

It seems that this will standardise which IDs will work and which will not across all version of iChat and Messages to some extent.

The issue being with earlier versions or the OS/ichat that cannot use iCloud issued names and need to register for AIM names instead.

 

 

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10:26 pm      Saturday; June 28, 2014

 

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 MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
 Mac OS X (10.6.8),
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Posted on Jun 28, 2014 2:28 PM

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  • by Kappy,

    Kappy Kappy Jun 28, 2014 2:33 PM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)
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    Jun 28, 2014 2:33 PM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)

    Ralph,

     

    My apologies, but when I noticed the duplicate topic titles I reported one as a duplicate. I did not notice you posted it until I had just clicked on the button. Too late to stop. The one I reported was not the one in the iChat forum. I'm so sorry for not paying better attention.

     

    Kappy

  • by Ralph Johns (UK),

    Ralph Johns (UK) Ralph Johns (UK) Jun 28, 2014 2:40 PM in response to Kappy
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    Jun 28, 2014 2:40 PM in response to Kappy

    Hi Kappy,

     

    Well we still seem to be here at the moment.

     

    I did spot that the info when posting a new Discussion does tell you the number of Followers.

     

    iChat only has 1 which I suspect is myself as it used to be on my custom "Home" page.

    Mavericks has apparently got 45.

     

    Just to let you know I also posted the item in Mountain Lion as well.

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    10:40 pm      Saturday; June 28, 2014

     

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     MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
     Mac OS X (10.6.8),
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  • by Kappy,

    Kappy Kappy Jun 28, 2014 4:09 PM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)
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    Jun 28, 2014 4:09 PM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)

    Saw that one, Ralph. Left it be.

  • by Ralph Johns (UK),

    Ralph Johns (UK) Ralph Johns (UK) Jul 1, 2014 12:29 PM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)
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    Jul 1, 2014 12:29 PM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)

    Hi,

     

    The date has now passed.

     

    My @mac.com account can no longer log in even in Mavericks (which the Apple Doc suggests it will be able to do)

     

    I see this:-

    Screen Shot 2014-07-01 at 20.22.38.png

    This is just the Description name I have for this Account and not the full Apple ID.

     

    Bizarrely  the @me.com account I have will log in to AIM

    Screen Shot 2014-07-01 at 20.26.00.png

     

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    8:29 pm      Tuesday; July 1, 2014

     

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     G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
     MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
     Mac OS X (10.6.8),
     Couple of iPhones and an iPad
  • by Defcom(UK),

    Defcom(UK) Defcom(UK) Jul 1, 2014 1:42 PM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)
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    Jul 1, 2014 1:42 PM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)

    My usual .mac works fine.

     

    My other .mac i had to enable ssl for it to work same for my .me enable ssl

  • by Ralph Johns (UK),

    Ralph Johns (UK) Ralph Johns (UK) Jul 1, 2014 1:47 PM in response to Defcom(UK)
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    Jul 1, 2014 1:47 PM in response to Defcom(UK)

    Hi Defcom,

     

    I had not thought of that.

    I checked and mine is now the same, logged in with SSL.

     

    However no alerts today from AIM/AOL

     

    I don't have  iChat 6/Lion  boot to test from for the cross over point between iChat and Messages.

     

     

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    9:47 pm      Tuesday; July 1, 2014

     

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     G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
     MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
     Mac OS X (10.6.8),
     Couple of iPhones and an iPad
  • by Defcom(UK),

    Defcom(UK) Defcom(UK) Jul 1, 2014 1:49 PM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)
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    Jul 1, 2014 1:49 PM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)

    Had an alert today, will check my MacBook on 10.6.

  • by Defcom(UK),

    Defcom(UK) Defcom(UK) Jul 1, 2014 1:54 PM in response to Defcom(UK)
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    Jul 1, 2014 1:54 PM in response to Defcom(UK)

    All working in 10.6 after changing to ssl.

  • by Ralph Johns (UK),

    Ralph Johns (UK) Ralph Johns (UK) Jul 1, 2014 1:56 PM in response to Defcom(UK)
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    Jul 1, 2014 1:56 PM in response to Defcom(UK)

    Thanks for that.

     

     

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    9:56 pm      Tuesday; July 1, 2014

     

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     G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
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     Mac OS X (10.6.8),
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  • by Defcom(UK),

    Defcom(UK) Defcom(UK) Jul 2, 2014 6:16 AM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)
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    Jul 2, 2014 6:16 AM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)

    Sorry Ralph that should have been 10.7.5 LIon i have on my MacBook.

  • by Ralph Johns (UK),

    Ralph Johns (UK) Ralph Johns (UK) Jul 2, 2014 12:05 PM in response to Defcom(UK)
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    Jul 2, 2014 12:05 PM in response to Defcom(UK)

    Hi,

     

    I thought it was Lion that you were talking about.

     

    In OS X 10.6.x I have tried changing the port t 443 and Enabling SSL and even changing the Server to api.oscar.aol.com

    All I am getting there is it saying I am "Connecting" without making progress.

     

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    8:05 pm      Wednesday; July 2, 2014

     

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     Mac OS X (10.6.8),
     Couple of iPhones and an iPad
  • by douglsmith,

    douglsmith douglsmith Jul 3, 2014 7:43 AM in response to Defcom(UK)
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    Jul 3, 2014 7:43 AM in response to Defcom(UK)

    I have an old mac.com account that stopped working on the current version of Mavericks. I had to both change to SSL and change the server to api.oscar.aol.com. It is now working again.

  • by Brookalizerules,

    Brookalizerules Brookalizerules Jul 3, 2014 7:59 AM in response to douglsmith
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    Jul 3, 2014 7:59 AM in response to douglsmith

    Thanks

     

     

    On Thursday, July 3, 2014, Apple Support Communities Updates <

  • by Ralph Johns (UK),

    Ralph Johns (UK) Ralph Johns (UK) Jul 3, 2014 12:04 PM in response to douglsmith
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    Jul 3, 2014 12:04 PM in response to douglsmith

    Thanks for the extra info.

     

    I am still having an issue with an @mac.com name in Snow Leopard/ iChat 5  (vers 5.0.3)

    It hangs for a very long time at "connecting"

     

     

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    8:04 pm      Thursday; July 3, 2014

     

      iMac 2.5Ghz i5 2011 (Mavericks 10.9)
     G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
     MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
     Mac OS X (10.6.8),
     Couple of iPhones and an iPad
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