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Q: sort order in iCloud shared photo stream

I have an album of photos in iPhoto v9.5.1 which I want to share using the iCloud shared photo stream.  I've carefully sorted the photos in the album.  But when I create and send the invite for the shared photo stream, it automatically re-orders the photos by date and greys out in the menu all other sorting orders.  In other words it entirely ignores the work I put into creating the sort order.

 

Is there a fix?

Posted on Jan 27, 2014 8:18 PM

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  • by LarryHN,

    LarryHN LarryHN Jul 1, 2014 8:43 AM in response to stillsphotographer
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    Jul 1, 2014 8:43 AM in response to stillsphotographer

    Education requires that you study

     

    The clean and simple answer was the first one posted

     

    Sorry - not possible - iCloud is currently only sorted by date [posted]

     

    suggest to Apple - iPhoto menu ==> provide iPhoto feedback

     

    LN

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Jul 1, 2014 12:18 PM in response to stillsphotographer
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    Jul 1, 2014 12:18 PM in response to stillsphotographer
    As of now, unless I do everything all over and re-post it all again, there isn't a way to do it.

    That is the only way to do it with Shared Photo Streams. The streams are simply not meant to be photo galleries but transmission channels.

     

    For photo galleries use the other sharing options, e.g.Flickr.

  • by Dwayne,

    Dwayne Dwayne Jul 25, 2014 5:18 PM in response to Cidrolin
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    Jul 25, 2014 5:18 PM in response to Cidrolin

    This thread illustrates one of those Apple anomalies. They do so many things brilliantly, yet things other sites do Apple falls short.  What is expected by the posters in this thread is something you can find on flickr, shutterfly, Facebook or any other photo sharing site. The level 9 folks here are doing what many in my tech community do, berate the end user aka the customer for complaining. Fact is, these services are all about customer experience and expectation.

     

    It's just so strange that while the default photo stream shows up in a logical picture taken order, the shared stream is in that picture added order. Kind of clunky and I would hope future iterations of this great service take this feedback... easily discovered with a google search, The way i just did.

  • by LarryHN,

    LarryHN LarryHN Jul 25, 2014 6:17 PM in response to Dwayne
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    Jul 25, 2014 6:17 PM in response to Dwayne

    THis is the iPhoto for Mac forum manned by experienced iPhoto users who are happy to help you use iPhoto for the Mac the way it exists. Do you have a question about iPhoto for the Mac that these volunteers can assist with?

     

    LN

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Jul 26, 2014 1:26 AM in response to Dwayne
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    Jul 26, 2014 1:26 AM in response to Dwayne
    the shared stream is in that picture added order. Kind of clunky and I would hope future iterations of this great service take this feedback... easily discovered with a google search, The way i just did.

    Actually, shared photo streams offer more control over the order of photos than "My Photo Stream".  With "My Photo Stream" you are stuck with the ordering by date. The only way to change the sorting is to modify the date of the photo. I you add an older photo to transfer it to another device, you will have a hard time to find it among the thousand photos. A Shared Photo Streams can have a custom order. The most recently added photo will appear at the end of the stream. You control the order by adding the photos in the order you want.

     

    Control over Photo sorting has never been well supported on iOS devices, see this older document:  http://web.archive.org/web/20131106105526/http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4221

     

    Many iOS devices are sold with only 16GB of memory and so the apps need to be small, and the devices will not have much space to store media files. With only a few photos on the iPhone or iPad the developers did it probably not consider to be important to be able to sort them and to provide code for sorting.

  • by Dwayne,

    Dwayne Dwayne Jul 26, 2014 8:46 AM in response to léonie
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    Jul 26, 2014 8:46 AM in response to léonie

    I understand that. My comments were more in support of the people above who felt dismissed. I came upon this thread due to a google search on the topic. This iPhoto thread came up. We just have to be aware that many people who arrive here don't do so by a linear method of browsing. They just appear. My comments were ones I make to all advanced users of technology when we dismiss those not at our level. Instead of being dismissive, comments like léonie's help people continue their search for solution and provide context. They in turn help the novice become more informed and in turn better users. Well done.

     

    Apologies for the non-iPhoto comment. LOL

  • by Tony Baczynski,

    Tony Baczynski Tony Baczynski Sep 4, 2014 7:16 AM in response to LarryHN
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    Sep 4, 2014 7:16 AM in response to LarryHN

    must be glued to the saddle.

  • by Phil M2,

    Phil M2 Phil M2 Oct 14, 2014 8:57 AM in response to Dwayne
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    Oct 14, 2014 8:57 AM in response to Dwayne

    I agree with your comment. Chastising someone for asking a question that may have been answered in an earlier post on a previous page is not helpful. Veteran users who are unwilling or unable to offer constructive answers to someone who has less experience should just ignore the question.

  • by LarryHN,

    LarryHN LarryHN Oct 14, 2014 9:17 AM in response to Phil M2
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    Oct 14, 2014 9:17 AM in response to Phil M2

    and once more time

     

    Education requires that you study

     

    The clean and simple answer was the first one posted

     

    Sorry - not possible - iCloud is currently only sorted by date [posted]

     

    suggest to Apple - iPhoto menu ==> provide iPhoto feedback

     

    LN

  • by Terence Devlin,

    Terence Devlin Terence Devlin Oct 14, 2014 11:45 AM in response to Phil M2
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    Oct 14, 2014 11:45 AM in response to Phil M2

    But why do you come back more than a month after the last post in this thread to do exactly what you're complaining about - chastising somebody? Perhaps inexperienced users who are unwilling or unable to offer constructive answers should also just ignore the question, no?

  • by Phil M2,

    Phil M2 Phil M2 Oct 14, 2014 12:38 PM in response to Terence Devlin
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    Oct 14, 2014 12:38 PM in response to Terence Devlin

    I'm not complaining or chastising. I made a comment. Apparently, that's not considered acceptable here. 

  • by LarryHN,

    LarryHN LarryHN Oct 14, 2014 1:11 PM in response to Phil M2
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    Oct 14, 2014 1:11 PM in response to Phil M2

    Amazing

     

    You obviously were chastising others you clearly did not answer anything - and the post you "chastised" did exactly answer the question

     

    Sorry - not possible - iCloud is currently only sorted by date

     

    suggest to Apple - iPhoto menu ==> provide iPhoto feedback

    What is "not acceptable" here is trolls who come only to try to create problems and who do not give any help to anyone and who attack volunteers who actually do help (lots and lots) of people

     

    SO have a nice day - and if you have any actually helpful answers to post at any time in the future come on back and give users answers to their questions

     

    LN

  • by Terence Devlin,

    Terence Devlin Terence Devlin Oct 14, 2014 3:12 PM in response to Phil M2
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    Oct 14, 2014 3:12 PM in response to Phil M2

    Rubbish. You're either pretty disingenuous or you're using words that you do not understand. If you're going to dish it out don't expect others not to hand it back. And I notice you don't explain why you chose to re-open the thread more than a month later to do it. Or is that a comment in itself.

  • by buhyabum,

    buhyabum buhyabum Jan 7, 2015 8:58 PM in response to léonie
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    Jan 7, 2015 8:58 PM in response to léonie

    léonie wrote:

     

    You are trying to use Shared Photo Streams as shared Photo albums or slideshows, but they are intended as communication channels, not as online albums.  If you treat them as streams, as they are intended to be used, it makes perfectly sense, that the images appear in the order they have been added.

     

    When I type in "Shared Photo Streams" doing a Google search, the first hit is the iCloud Photo Sharing FAQ, so I assume that's the feature being discussed here. If so, what you're saying about Apple's intention that they be used as "communication channels" and not shared photo albums doesn't jibe with Apple's own language. Apple's FAQ about Photo Sharing refers to "shared albums" (see http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202786 ). On the page broadly describing all Photos-related features, Apple indicates that iCloud Photo Sharing allows users to "create a shared album" (http://www.apple.com/icloud/photos/).

     

    Any other sort order would make the streaming cumbersome, when the stream gets long. You will want to see the most recently added photo at the head of the stream, to see immediately what is new. 

     

    It's a bit presumptive to tell us what we want and don't want to see at the head of the stream, or what we will consider cumbersome. If someone uses a stream for multiple events occurring on different dates, that person may want the events themselves ordered with the newest ones appearing first, but may still want to have the option to order the photos that comprise each event in the manner that meets his or her preferences. That way, people would still be seeing what's new first, but those new photos would be presented in an order of the album owner's choosing.

  • by LarryHN,

    LarryHN LarryHN Jan 7, 2015 9:10 PM in response to buhyabum
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    Jan 7, 2015 9:10 PM in response to buhyabum

    You seem to be unable to comprehend that this is a user to user forum - no one here wrote any code, any specifications and no one here can change anything or explain anything except their own personal understanding

     

    If you do not like what Apple provides you choices are to complain to Apple and use it or stop using it

     

    And it is more than a bit presumptive to assume that what you wan tis exactly what everyone in the world wants

     

    But in any case it is what it is and we can try to explain it to you - we can not change it

     

    LN

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