blatella

Q: Rechte gehen verloren

Hallo,

 

ich habe ein Problem und weiss nicht recht wie ich es lösen soll.

Wir nutzen einen Mac mini als Fileserver für 3 Standorte. Jeder Standorte ist mit seinen Benutzern in einer eigenen Gruppe angelegt (Standort A hat Gruppe A mit 3 Benutzern, Standort B in Gruppe B mit 4 Benutzern, etc.)

Jede Gruppe hat diverse Zugriffsrechte auf den Server. Auf die zentrale Auftragsverwaltung (Numbers Datei) haben aber alle Vollzugriff. Die Rechte sind über Server OSX gesetzt. Nun zu meinem Problem. Wenn ein Benutzer aus Gruppe A die Datei öffnet und dann nach Änderung sichert können im Anschluss nur noch die Nutzer der Gruppe A darauf zugreifen. Die Rechte der Gruppe B und C sind einfach gelöscht.

 

Woran kann das liegen bzw. mache ich etwas falsch?

 

Besten Dank für einen Rat.

Posted on Jul 22, 2014 5:36 AM

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  • by Grant Bennet-Alder,

    Grant Bennet-Alder Grant Bennet-Alder Jul 22, 2014 7:24 AM in response to blatella
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    Jul 22, 2014 7:24 AM in response to blatella

    Google translate says:

    I have a problem and do not know quite how to solve it.

    We use a mac mini as a file server for 3 sites. Each location is equipped with its users created in a separate group (Site A has group A with 3 users, site B in Group B with 4 users, etc.)

    Each group has various access rights to the server. On the central order management (Numbers file) but all have full access. The permissions are set on the server OSX. Now to my problem. When a user from Group A opens the file and then saves after amendment can access it after only the users of the group A. The rights of the group B and C are simply deleted.

     

    Why might that be or am I doing something wrong?

     

    Thanks for any advice.

  • by Grant Bennet-Alder,

    Grant Bennet-Alder Grant Bennet-Alder Jul 22, 2014 10:01 AM in response to blatella
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    Jul 22, 2014 10:01 AM in response to blatella

    Here is an article that disuccses File Permissions. It is available in many languages:

     

    Troubleshooting permissions issues in Mac OS X


    The article discusses the three sets of permissions: Owner, Group, and Everyone.

     

    To avoid having this file be "owned" by one User or Group to the exclusion of all others, you can make a new Group, and make all who need to edit this file members of this Group, and set the file Permissions for Read/Write access for the Group. You may find it more organized to create a Group Shared Folder with these permissions, and keep the file(s) in the Group Shared Folder.

  • by Grant Bennet-Alder,

    Grant Bennet-Alder Grant Bennet-Alder Jul 22, 2014 10:40 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder
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    Jul 22, 2014 10:40 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

    An individual User can be a member of multiple Groups that may or may not overlap. You do not have to change your current groups to Add a new Group for the purpose of modifying these file(s).

     

    This will be more trouble-free in a Shared Folder that is owned by this Group.

  • by blatella,

    blatella blatella Jul 23, 2014 1:11 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder
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    Jul 23, 2014 1:11 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

    Okay, that would mean that I should not create groups, but only users? And this is then provided with various privileges?

  • by Grant Bennet-Alder,

    Grant Bennet-Alder Grant Bennet-Alder Jul 23, 2014 7:53 AM in response to blatella
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    Jul 23, 2014 7:53 AM in response to blatella

    that would mean that I should not create groups, but only users?

    No, that is not what I intended to say.

     

    You should create a new Group. You should give it a Group Folder on your Server in /Groups (or whatever you have re-named it). You should move the File(s) to be Shared into that Group Folder. Then make sure the files have the appropriate Group Permissions (Read & Write by members of that Group).

     

    For each User that needs access to the Shared Files, you should ADD that Group to that user. The additional Group does not need to replace their existing Group(s), but can be added as an additional Group.

     

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    When a User modifies the file, it will could have that User as the Owner, but would continue to have Read & Write access for the Group. So any User with that Group in their list of Groups could Read & Write the file(s).

     

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    In a school, the teachers have a teachers Group. The teachers Group has its own Group Folder, /Groups/Teachers. Teachers can store files there, and any user who is a member of the Teachers Group can Read and Write those files.

     

    The Students also have a Group Folder that they can use to share files with each other, /Groups/Students. Students can use that Folder, and teachers are also a member of the Students Group, so they can Read & Write files there to maintain order.

     

    Mavericks Server Admin: Set up a group file sharing folder


    Mavericks Server Admin: Add or remove group members