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Aug 14, 2014 9:04 AM in response to tiredbytechby Allan Jones,Try pressing the lower right segment of the button, the the lower left. Sometimes either a manufactiring defect or a buildup of crud can make the button sensitive to where you push.
An old Mac tech once told be that an old Mac USB keyboard as shipped with the first iMacs can override the front panel button. The keyboard, Apple model M2452, has a power-on button like teh older Apple ADB keyboards and that can get around the problem. The M2452 is teh only one that has the required power button.
That failing, you'd need to replace the front panel board:
http://www.powerbookmedic.com/Power-Mac-G4-Front-Panel-Board-p-24895.html
Note that instruction are available from a link on that page, but you need to fully identify your G4 variant--there are quite a few--before ordering.
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Aug 14, 2014 1:31 PM in response to Allan Jonesby tiredbytech,Thanks.
Tried button as suggested but no change. Spare part unavailable from quoted supplier sadly.
Might look for the key board...or buy a new mac which I've been talking about for 2 years!!
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Aug 17, 2014 6:32 AM in response to tiredbytechby tiredbytech,A previous post talked about turning the computer on from a switch on the motherboard.
Does any one know about this and where the switch is located?
thanks.
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Aug 17, 2014 7:11 AM in response to tiredbytechby Allan Jones,At this point we really need to know which Powermac you have. There were quite a few with different specs and logic boards. This site may help:
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g4/index-powermac-g4.html
Somewhere on the back of your computer is a label with a UPC code. The "M" number should be on the same label. On some models the information is painted on.
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Aug 18, 2014 6:54 AM in response to Allan Jonesby tiredbytech,★HelpfulI think it's M5183, but this is a guess from looking at a spare parts co.[reply post above] and relating this to my mac which is year 2000 and 400 gHz.
I've looked closely at the inside and outside of the mac and can't find meaningful numbers.
Will look again and thanks for the website. I have a friend who's cleverer than I - he is the one who'll approach a m-board.
Will post another number or confirmation of above number if I can find anything.
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Aug 18, 2014 7:12 AM in response to tiredbytechby tiredbytech,Yes, found it!!
M5183 as above.
If I can switch on via the M-board, I can keep it running as before.
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Aug 18, 2014 8:11 AM in response to tiredbytechby Allan Jones,Perfect! That's quite a bit earlier than the G4s in my ken, so give me a chance to research it.
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Aug 18, 2014 10:20 AM in response to tiredbytechby BDAqua,Might be time to replace the PRAM Battery, 4 years is close to their lifespan, far less if ever without AC power, & can cause strange startup problems...
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Newer%20Technology/BAA36VPRAM/
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Aug 18, 2014 11:44 AM in response to BDAquaby tiredbytech,Yes, I did replace it but it made no difference.
This problem has been going on for a year, but twice, after the mac was pronounced terminally disfunctional, my children poked the button for the
umpteenth time and miraculously the computer started up again!!
In that time I backed up everything onto an ext. HD , and taped a plastic box over the button,
leaving the mac on 'sleep'. Should have taped over the mains switch too!
Many thanks for the help and interest. I'm very fond of this computer, which I got 2nd hand in 2002 and which has been a rock ever since, only failing
now because of the speed and size of the world around it.
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Aug 18, 2014 2:15 PM in response to tiredbytechby BDAqua,It sounds a bit like the bad Capacitors in the PSU thing... disconnect all peripherals, power cord, & remove PRAM battery, let sit overnight, plug everything back in & try starting it again after a PMU reset...
How to reset the SMU/PMU on a Power Mac Earlier G3, G4, G5 models...
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Aug 19, 2014 3:43 AM in response to tiredbytechby a brody,If you can find an old keyboard for the iMac G3, I think it had the on/off switch that would work with your G4. Also Keyspan if I remember offered a special plug in device that acted as an on/off switch. If you can't turn it on after adding the new PRAM battery. sometimes very gently hitting the CUDA switch on the logicboard helps. This is also on BDAqua's HT1939 link.