LizT1976

Q: Bitdefender - how long does it take to scan entire system?

Been advised to do this, that's fine. It's been running half an hour. Does anyone know how long it'll take in total? I'm not a huge fan of leaving my Mac on overnight but I will if I have to. Any advice gratefully received.

MacBook Pro (15-inch Early 2011), OS X Mavericks (10.9.2)

Posted on Aug 28, 2014 11:17 AM

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  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Sep 1, 2014 8:16 AM in response to LizT1976
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    Sep 1, 2014 8:16 AM in response to LizT1976

    Go to the Java website and get the removal instructions from there, but if you leave java disabled (until it is needed) and disable it again after it is needed there is nothing to worry about.

     

    Word isn 't horrible, if you need the power that it offers then it is the best. For one such as me who writes an occasional letter it's overkill.

  • by LizT1976,

    LizT1976 LizT1976 Sep 1, 2014 8:34 AM in response to Csound1
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    Sep 1, 2014 8:34 AM in response to Csound1

    I asked MadMacs0 about ClamXav and in fact right on page 1 of the thread someone recommended it. I'll let it finished its thing and then get rid of it - if, as you say, nothing on the list is of any risk, that's fine.

     

    As for Java, EasyFind understandably brings up JavaScript stuff and I don't want to delete that by mistake. So I'm not sure what to do with Java bits that may be living on the computer...

     

    I tried what it suggested (putting sudo rm -rf /Library/PreferencePanes/JavaControlPanel.prefPane into Terminal) and it just changed the Java icon to the System Preferences cogs icon. It still won't go with Ctrl Click Remove. When I click on it it says it can't be opened because it's unavailable. It's not in Utilities. Hm.

  • by LizT1976,

    LizT1976 LizT1976 Sep 1, 2014 8:40 AM in response to LizT1976
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    Sep 1, 2014 8:40 AM in response to LizT1976

    Btw, it's not in Library/PreferencePanes. Makes no sense!

     

    Edit - it went! I relaunched System Prefs and it was gone, so good, that's one thing ;-) Back to my earlier question - do I need to delete ALL Java bits scattered around and, if so, how to differentiate them from JavaScript stuff?

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Sep 1, 2014 8:46 AM in response to LizT1976
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    Sep 1, 2014 8:46 AM in response to LizT1976

    Just leave them, ensure that the Java switch is off.

     

    ClamXav may be the least bad (or one of the least bad) but it will waste your time while failing to do much. It won't mess up your Mac as badly as some others though.  The best way to ensure the safety of your data is backup, regular backup (Time Machine) then if you somehow download messupmymac you have a simple recovery path. You already use it so keep it up.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Sep 1, 2014 8:50 AM in response to LizT1976
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    Sep 1, 2014 8:50 AM in response to LizT1976

    Note: To uninstall Java 7, you must have Administrator privileges.

    1. Click on the Finder icon located in your dock
    2. Click on Applications tab on the sidebar
    3. In the Search box enter JavaAppletPlugin.plugin
    4. This will find the JavaAppletPlugin.plugin file
    5. Right click on JavaAppletPlugin.plugin and select Move to Trash
  • by LizT1976,

    LizT1976 LizT1976 Sep 1, 2014 9:12 AM in response to Csound1
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    Sep 1, 2014 9:12 AM in response to Csound1

    I'll be relieved when ClamXav is finished, it's taken forever! It found 71 infections - all in Mail.

     

    I did search for JavaAppletPlugin.plugin but it just said 'searching Applications' and got stuck. All pretty odd. I think, however, the Terminal thing worked - I just hadn't restarted System Prefs. I do Time Machine backups once a fortnight but I should do it weekly, shouldn't I?

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Sep 1, 2014 9:17 AM in response to LizT1976
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    Sep 1, 2014 9:17 AM in response to LizT1976

    If you prefer to lose a weeks work instead of a month then I suppose it is OK.

     

    But why do you modify everything, left alone TM will provide far better coverage than your scheme, why do you keep it off or unplugged for so much of the time?

     

    Cancel the Clam, it is quite unnecessary, cancel it and then remove it. Other things will move faster after you do.

  • by LizT1976,

    LizT1976 LizT1976 Sep 1, 2014 9:55 AM in response to Csound1
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    Sep 1, 2014 9:55 AM in response to Csound1

    Because my work is all saved in Yahoo Mail (having been sent to clients) the only thing that would devastate me if the Mac blew up tomorrow would be my iTunes. I don’t have anything else of real value on it. However, I should back up more, in any event.

     

     

    ClamXav finished - I deleted the files (at least I think I did) and uninstalled it. Anything else that I need to check for do you think?

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Sep 1, 2014 10:03 AM in response to LizT1976
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    Sep 1, 2014 10:03 AM in response to LizT1976

    Just keep the TM drive plugged in whenever you can, the more you do that the less intrusive the backups will be (smaller) and the amount of work you could lose is reduced. I run 3 independent backup systems, one of which is real time, if my Mac blew up I would lose the last minute maybe.

     

    Other than that worry less and use more. Macs take care of themselves rather well.

  • by LizT1976,

    LizT1976 LizT1976 Sep 1, 2014 10:16 AM in response to Csound1
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    Sep 1, 2014 10:16 AM in response to Csound1

    What do you for a living, if you don't mind me asking? (you may mind, lol)

     

    Understood - I never worried, ironically, ever, until last week. It's all been a bit jarring but the Mac feels more secure now.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Sep 1, 2014 10:18 AM in response to LizT1976
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    Sep 1, 2014 10:18 AM in response to LizT1976

    I produce live shows.

  • by LizT1976,

    LizT1976 LizT1976 Sep 1, 2014 10:24 AM in response to Csound1
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    Sep 1, 2014 10:24 AM in response to Csound1

    Very cool job. I go to gigs (lots of them) and write about them a bit! http://liztray.com/LT/files/category-gigs.html

     

    Last daft question, promise (probably). I searched for Java with a space after the name (to differentiate, at least I hope so, from JavaScript) and two things came up in Library/CoreServices: Java Web Start and JavaVersion.plist. Ignore?

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Sep 1, 2014 11:18 AM in response to LizT1976
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    Sep 1, 2014 11:18 AM in response to LizT1976

    LizT1976 wrote:

     

    Very cool job. I go to gigs (lots of them) and write about them a bit! http://liztray.com/LT/files/category-gigs.html

    Lists and schedules, it's just lists and schedules.

     

    Ignore the results with Java in the search.

  • by MadMacs0,

    MadMacs0 MadMacs0 Sep 1, 2014 6:26 PM in response to LizT1976
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    Sep 1, 2014 6:26 PM in response to LizT1976

    LizT1976 wrote:

     

    In System Preferences I can see Java at the bottom (but I don’t have it!) and it won’t delete from the Preferences Pane, it says. What to do? Found these in Library/Preferences also:

    com.oracle.java.JavaAppletPlugin

    com.oracle.javadeployment

    net.java.openjdk.cmd

     

    Delete?

    No! If you have Java in System Preferences then you do have it. All you need to do is make sure it's disabled in all your browsers.

  • by MadMacs0,

    MadMacs0 MadMacs0 Sep 1, 2014 6:28 PM in response to LizT1976
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    Sep 1, 2014 6:28 PM in response to LizT1976

    LizT1976 wrote:

     

    There’s tons of files in: Library/Application Support/Google/Chrome/Default/Pepper Data/Shockwave Flash/WritableRoot/#SharedObjects/459C3EQ6/macromedia.com/support/flashplayer/s ys

     

    Something to worry about?

    Not at all. Chrome contains it's own version of FlashPlayer known as "Pepper" which is supposed to be a bit more secure, although I'm not sure what evidence there is. Leave it alone.

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