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613 Views 9 Replies Latest reply: Jul 3, 2006 11:47 PM by Whipman
Currently Being ModeratedJul 2, 2006 6:00 PM (in response to Goony77)even if you buy from the physical apple store, how do you think the computers got there? i'd bet my MBP that they were "bouncing around in the back of a truck" too. although bouncing might be a bit of a hyperbole. the main differences in the 15 and 17" MBP are that the 17" has:
dual layer drive
from what ive read heat issues appear to be less on the 17", at least according to the forums.Macbook Pro 17", Mac OS X (10.4.7)
Currently Being ModeratedJul 2, 2006 6:01 PM (in response to Goony77)As for having a computer bounce around in the back of a truck, they all get shipped that way sooner or later. I wouldn't worry. The packaging has gotten really good. For point of purchase, that's a personal preference. If you want options you might have to go online thru Apple. For off the shelf computers, check out the Apple store nearest you and play with them.
Whatever you decide, the MBP is a great computer.MacBookPro 2.0 iBook G3 700 iPod Photo 30g, Mac OS X (10.4.7)
Currently Being ModeratedJul 2, 2006 6:04 PM (in response to Peter Moyer)oh yea, and who knows maybe the SMS (sudden motion sensor) will save the HD while its breakdancing in the truck. one can hope.Macbook Pro 17", Mac OS X (10.4.7)
Currently Being ModeratedJul 2, 2006 6:29 PM (in response to Goony77)I think you are missing the point on notebooks all together.
I bought a MBP 15" back in April/May. Not for me, but my other half. The student discount will be repayed when she buys me one.
I have possession of it. I have used it before and more now that I have it 24. It's sitting 1" from me.
Anyways, there is going to be heat or hot. There is going to whine or not.
Judging a 15" to a 17" based on heat for a future purchase is ridiculous. Have you seen the 17" compared to a 15" Do you know what the 17" can do over the 15"? Have you actually held it in your hands? Do you know all Apple notebooks get hot.?
Just some random questions because I'm going to purchase another MBP myself. I never thought the heat thing would differ my opinion between a 15" or 17" and it shouldn't sway you in either direction.
There are other things you should consider, put first and into priority. The heat issue shouldn't even be involved in a decision between a 17" and 15".
If you think heat is a major factor get a cheaper Macbook (that get's hot) and and an iMac.1.8 G5
Currently Being ModeratedJul 2, 2006 6:49 PM (in response to Peter Coveleski1)Ok people give me some credit here. I know one way or another the computers get transported via trucks or airplanes or whatever, I realize that. However I thought there might be greater care taken of the products shipped to stores. Not a huge concern of mine, just wondering if anyone had any opinions one way or another.
As far as the heat, this won't keep me from buying one, I already know I want a 17 inch, I have seen both first hand. I've seen about 5 different 17 inch computers and only one of which was REALLY hot on the bottom when I checked it out.
So I guess it's somewhat a matter of luck when I order. Again just wondering if anyone had any opinions on store bought vs. internet ordered since I have always ordered online (I've only been a Dell user up until now).
Heat won't be the deciding factor in buying one or which one, that is stupid, just was curious if people knew which one it pertained to more since the 17 is bigger and there is more space for the heat to go, but on the other hand it is more powerful, so I was curious.
Also, I've read stuff on this temperature paste stuff, which I haven't really heard of before. If my computer is hot could an apple store take care of faulty paste or is this something I would want to re-apply myself? I am confident I could do it but if they can what the ****.Dell 8100, Windows XP
Currently Being ModeratedJul 2, 2006 7:21 PM (in response to Goony77)I have purchased 3 Apple computers online from the Apple store. All arrived in perfect condition and ahead of schedule. I did go to an Apple store to play with one but when you order online you can get exactly what you want versus what is in stock in the store. Shipping is free too from Apple.MacBookPro 2.0 iBook G3 700 iPod Photo 30g, Mac OS X (10.4.7)
Currently Being ModeratedJul 3, 2006 10:28 PM (in response to Peter Moyer)The main difference is the size. The weight has no bearing for me and I'm not some personal trainer named Brock working out every day and helping women on some souped up excersise bike just to take a look.
The 17" could definitely be called a desktop replacement only for the fact of space and the lack of portability. The added things listed above are a plus and more since it more than makes up the difference in price between the best 15".
Then again, how many people will use that notebook as a stand-alone. Most will add a HD, display, etc...
The 15" is almost the same size as a 17" Studio display I own (just imagine lugging around that LCD for the 17" MBP).
The 15" is the perfect size if you have to bring it with you a lot. The 17" is pushing it, yet offers more. The Macbook is great for kids at college.
All of those won't cut it too far without external support.
By the way, the MBP in front of me doesn't boil and I ordered it from the Apple Store amongst other things. I will order my next one from Apple as well. You would be wise to order one also and take advantage of Apples great offers.1.8 G5
Currently Being ModeratedJul 3, 2006 10:53 PM (in response to Alex6)Hey, don't knock the SMS. It serves its purpose...turning your Mac into a MacSaber. Come on, tell me it isn't bad *.Can't wait for Merom :D
Currently Being ModeratedJul 3, 2006 11:47 PM (in response to Goony77)Hallo,
just a thought on your post. If you check the heat of a MBP, just make sure, that the battery is installed. Most stores I checked remove the batteries from their display MBPs. If there is no battery installed, the MBP will reduce its core speed to 1GHz, which will makes it run quit cool.
A I checked get hot up to 55° Celsius above the function keys and about 50° Celsius at the bottum when under full load for 10 minutes.
I normal operating, they are much cooler.