Nobby Clarke

Q: Deleting untitled projects

When I import a photo into an event or album, it is also imported into an untitled project, of which I have a large number. Is it possible to deleted the untitled project without also deleting the photo(s) from the event or album, please?

iMac, Mac OS X (10.5.6)

Posted on Sep 15, 2014 4:12 AM

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  • by Frank Caggiano,Solvedanswer

    Frank Caggiano Frank Caggiano Sep 15, 2014 6:21 AM in response to Nobby Clarke
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    Sep 15, 2014 6:21 AM in response to Nobby Clarke

    If you delete the project you will delete the original and all its versions. All originals imported into Aperture MUST be in a project. The project is the fundamental container in Aperture.

     

    See An Overview of Aperture, The Well-Trod Path: a Beginner's Guide to how Aperture's major parts inter-relate and New to Aperture? Some Considerations when Designing your First Aperture Library

  • by hummel_hummel,Helpful

    hummel_hummel hummel_hummel Sep 15, 2014 6:49 AM in response to Nobby Clarke
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    Sep 15, 2014 6:49 AM in response to Nobby Clarke

    Just rename the untitled projects to something more useful. The images in the projects are no duplicates of what you are seeing in the albums. how are you importing into events? Aperture has no events. Are you importing using iPhoto? an iPhoto event will show as a project in Aperture.

  • by Nobby Clarke,Helpful

    Nobby Clarke Nobby Clarke Sep 15, 2014 8:42 AM in response to hummel_hummel
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    Sep 15, 2014 8:42 AM in response to hummel_hummel

    Hello Hummel

    Thank you for your prompt reply. I am in something of a mess. For example, 1 have, in the Aperture library, an event named Royston Clarke (me). In that event, there is a photo of me in 1936 sitting on a beach blowing up an rubber ring (I was 5 at the time). Further down the library, there is an event, a re-named untitled project, showing the same photograph - just the one. As the photo is the much larger collection named Royston Clarke, there is no need to retain the single photo in the re-named event. My problem is that, when I trying to delete the single photo, all other copies of that photo are removed. I have probably 90 untitled events containing photos which are also in named events and wish to removed the duplication. You are correct to say that I imported most photos from iPhoto. I am merely trying to clear things up by removing duplication prior to buying a new iMac and transferring all photos from this one to the next.

     

    Your help is much appreciated.

     

    Sincerely

     

    Royston Clarke

  • by Nobby Clarke,

    Nobby Clarke Nobby Clarke Sep 15, 2014 8:45 AM in response to Frank Caggiano
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    Sep 15, 2014 8:45 AM in response to Frank Caggiano

    Hello Frank

     

    Thank you for your prompt reply. I can see that I have a lot of reading to do. I am most appreciative of your advice.

     

    Yours sincerely

     

    Royston Clarke

  • by Nobby Clarke,

    Nobby Clarke Nobby Clarke Sep 15, 2014 8:55 AM in response to hummel_hummel
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    Sep 15, 2014 8:55 AM in response to hummel_hummel

    Hello Hummel

    Thank you for your prompt reply. I am in something of a mess. For example, 1 have, in the Aperture library, an event named Royston Clarke (me). In that event, there is a photo of me in 1936 sitting on a beach blowing up an rubber ring (I was 5 at the time). Further down the library, there is an event, a re-named untitled project, showing the same photograph - just the one. As the photo is the much larger collection named Royston Clarke, there is no need to retain the single photo in the re-named event. My problem is that, when I trying to delete the single photo, all other copies of that photo are removed. I have probably 90 untitled events containing photos which are also in named events and wish to removed the duplication. You are correct to say that I imported most photos from iPhoto. I am merely trying to clear things up by removing duplication prior to buying a new iMac and transferring all photos from this one to the next.

     

    Your help is much appreciated.

     

    Sincerely

     

    Royston Clarke

  • by hummel_hummel,

    hummel_hummel hummel_hummel Sep 15, 2014 9:13 AM in response to Nobby Clarke
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    Sep 15, 2014 9:13 AM in response to Nobby Clarke

    Royston,

    you need a way to mark all photos that have been used in albums with a color label, flag, or keyword. That is much easier in iPhoto than in Aperture. What is your Aperture version? DO you have Aperture 3.3 or later, so you could open your Aperture library in iPhoto?

     

    In Aperture you could do the following: Select all photos in all albums (if possible at once) and flag them or assign a color label.  This way you will see directly, when you are growing for duplicates, which copy you need to keep.

    In that event, there is a photo of me in 1936 sitting on a beach blowing up an rubber ring (I was 5 at the time). Further down the library, there is an event, a re-named untitled project, showing the same photograph - just the one.

    You can drag the single photo from its unnamed project/event to the project/event with the larger collection and than delete the unflagged copy that is not used in any album, book, or other product.

  • by Nobby Clarke,

    Nobby Clarke Nobby Clarke Sep 15, 2014 9:35 AM in response to hummel_hummel
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    Sep 15, 2014 9:35 AM in response to hummel_hummel

    Hello Hummel

     

    My version of Aperture is 3.5.1. After transferring all my photos to Aperture, I deleted iPhoto. I tried today to re-install from the original iLife DVD which I received when I bought the iMac in 2008, but was told that this would not work, presumably because of the OS developments since then - I could download the latest version of iPhoto if thought necessary.

     

    If the single photo in the Untitled Project is the "original", does it not still remain the original even if moved into a larger event? If it does, would I not, by removing it, I also remove all other copies in Aperture? For example, were I to drag the photo of me on the beach into the event named Royston Clarke, there would be to identical photos side by side, one flagged, the other not. Would the unflagged not remain the original?

     

    Sorry to be so clueless - my son suggests that, as single photos consume so little hard disk space, why not leave well alone? I have no answer to that, except that there are so many single photos in untitled projects

     

    Many thanks again

     

    Sincerely

     

    Royston

  • by hummel_hummel,

    hummel_hummel hummel_hummel Sep 15, 2014 10:10 AM in response to Nobby Clarke
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    Sep 15, 2014 10:10 AM in response to Nobby Clarke

    If the single photo in the Untitled Project is the "original", does it not still remain the original even if moved into a larger event? If it does, would I not, by removing it, I also remove all other copies in Aperture? For example, were I to drag the photo of me on the beach into the event named Royston Clarke, there would be to identical photos side by side, one flagged, the other not. Would the unflagged not remain the original?

    If you are seeing images in two different projects/events, you have imported it twice and have two originals photos, and maybe several edited versions. When you import an image file to Aperture, the file is stored as the original and you will see a version of the image in Aperture. All versions of this image will be in the same project; so similar images in two projects can only be caused  by importing twice and you have two originals.

     

    I thought your problem is, that you have used one of the duplicate photos in albums and books, and one is redundant. Moving photos between projects/events  does not delete the original image file and does not remove image versions from your albums. So you can safely consolidate the photos in single-photo untitled projects by dragging them to the projects with similar images. If you now see two similar images side-by-side when you sort by date, you can delete one of them and should pick the one, that is not used in any album or other product.

    That is why suggested to flag or color-code all photos that have been used in albums, books, etc. If you see two similar photos in the same event and one of  them is flagged, you know, that you can safely delete the version with no flags  from the project.

  • by Nobby Clarke,

    Nobby Clarke Nobby Clarke Sep 15, 2014 1:21 PM in response to hummel_hummel
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    Sep 15, 2014 1:21 PM in response to hummel_hummel

    Thank you again. An example of my problem is that in one event (album?) I have 152 photos, of which one is me blowing up a rubber ring in the  beach. The same photo is in the adjacent event. When I put a red code in the bottom right hand corner of one of these, the red code appears in the same place on the other in the adjacent event. This must surely mean that the two images are of the same photo, and, when I delete one, the other is deleted.

     

    I have tried moving the one event on top of the other, but they part immediately. I really appreciate your advice, and hesitate to seek more suggestions, but, your further help will be much appreciated.

     

    It is now very late and I am off to bed.

     

    Regards

     

    Royston

  • by Frank Caggiano,

    Frank Caggiano Frank Caggiano Sep 15, 2014 2:54 PM in response to Nobby Clarke
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    Sep 15, 2014 2:54 PM in response to Nobby Clarke

    As long as you do not know what type of container you are dealing with you will continue to have problems. The icons in the  Library tab of the Inspector is clear as to the type of container the object is;  project, album, folder.

     

    Have you looked at the literature I pointed to in my first post? Aperture can be a complicated application if you are not familiar with bits that make it up.

     

    As for your example it is clear that one of the containers was not a project, they could not both be given your results. There are ways to find what images are in albums and to find the project a particular image is in. You can find all the images not in any album. But without a better understanding of how your library is setup it is difficult to know where to begin.

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Sep 15, 2014 3:05 PM in response to Nobby Clarke
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    Sep 15, 2014 3:05 PM in response to Nobby Clarke
    When I put a red code in the bottom right hand corner of one of these, the red code appears in the same place on the other in the adjacent event.

    Then your other "events" are neither iPhoto events nor Aperture projects. They must be albums.

    Screen Shot 2014-09-15 at 23.53.44CEST.png

    Just to be sure about the terminology: The screenshot above is showing a part of my Aperture library in the "Projects" section. Your "event" you are talking about, what does the icon look like? An iPhoto event or Aperture project will show in the Aperture library with an icon like a box with a lid and a label. An album will have  a "stack of pictures" icon, and a smart album an icon with an additional gear.

     

    I hope the screenshot will show.

  • by Frank Caggiano,

    Frank Caggiano Frank Caggiano Sep 15, 2014 3:05 PM in response to léonie
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    Sep 15, 2014 3:05 PM in response to léonie

    Just to let you know I cannot see your screen shot.

     

    I've given up taking the time to post screen shots when so many f them wind up invisible to so many posters. It is to bad because what could be explained in one or two screen shots might be nearly impossible to explain in words.

     

    Hopefully the OP will be able to see the one you posted above.

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Sep 15, 2014 3:08 PM in response to Frank Caggiano
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    Sep 15, 2014 3:08 PM in response to Frank Caggiano

    Thank you, Frank!