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Q: Is there no way to do Family Sharing without unified billing?

It looks like Family Sharing has some other nice features beyond shared purchases. Is there no way to enable Family Sharing without having a unified billing? I'd love to enable it for my extended family but I don't want to pay for everyone's apps and things.

Posted on Sep 18, 2014 7:57 AM

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Q: Is there no way to do Family Sharing without unified billing?

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  • by Gtstricky,

    Gtstricky Gtstricky Sep 18, 2014 1:47 PM in response to phatbhuda
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    Sep 18, 2014 1:47 PM in response to phatbhuda

    No.

     

    It is set up that way to help prevent people from just adding their friends and sharing apps. Most other benifits you can do now, share photos, share calander, etc. Family share just makes it easier to do it all at once for....  your family, who you trust to make good purchases on your CC.

  • by Samantha Dow,

    Samantha Dow Samantha Dow Sep 18, 2014 7:47 PM in response to phatbhuda
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    Sep 18, 2014 7:47 PM in response to phatbhuda

    I'd like this as well - I'd like to be able to share apps/music/etc. with my brother and my parents, but we're all adults and I certainly don't want to pay for all of their purchases!

     

    (nor should they want to pay for all of mine!).

     

    And while there are ways of sharing calendars and photos in other ways, none of them appear to be as seamless or integrated as the options that are available through the family share feature.

  • by fromsouth,

    fromsouth fromsouth Sep 18, 2014 8:19 PM in response to phatbhuda
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    Sep 18, 2014 8:19 PM in response to phatbhuda

    Actually if I understood family sharing correctly, while it does require organizer to put up the credit card, every account in plan can have their own cards that will be charged first if they are on the account. For minors it can be itunes gift cards and that balance will be used first. Problem is you have to trust those people to pay their balances - once one family plan member defaults your card will get charged.

  • by stuartfromwestland,

    stuartfromwestland stuartfromwestland Sep 20, 2014 9:51 PM in response to phatbhuda
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    Sep 20, 2014 9:51 PM in response to phatbhuda

    I agree with you.  I use my devices primarily for business, while my wife uses hers recreationally and as a student, and the kids are entertainment only users.  I would much rather be able to track my app store business expenses for deductables, rather than parsing through an entire family purchase history to figure out which ones were mine come tax season.  I almost never play games, and I certainly don't go in for in-app purchases for the ones I do occasionally play.  My wife and kids, however, are another matter.  Why in **** would I want all that tacked onto a business account just so my wife can more easily see my calendar, photos, and the like.  I get limiting purchases to a few people, but my own data?  That's just nuts!

  • by fromsouth,

    fromsouth fromsouth Sep 21, 2014 5:08 AM in response to stuartfromwestland
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    Sep 21, 2014 5:08 AM in response to stuartfromwestland

    stuartfromwestland wrote:

     

    I agree with you.  I use my devices primarily for business, while my wife uses hers recreationally and as a student, and the kids are entertainment only users.  I would much rather be able to track my app store business expenses for deductables, rather than parsing through an entire family purchase history to figure out which ones were mine come tax season.  I almost never play games, and I certainly don't go in for in-app purchases for the ones I do occasionally play.  My wife and kids, however, are another matter.  Why in **** would I want all that tacked onto a business account just so my wife can more easily see my calendar, photos, and the like.  I get limiting purchases to a few people, but my own data?  That's just nuts!

    I guess that is why they called it family sharing instead of business and family sharing...

  • by stuartfromwestland,

    stuartfromwestland stuartfromwestland Sep 21, 2014 6:39 AM in response to fromsouth
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    Sep 21, 2014 6:39 AM in response to fromsouth

    Wow, that's helpful, because I can't run a business AND be a parent and husband, right?  All I'm saying is an option to toggle what you share with the family planning, so photos, calendars, notes, and even purchased content is shared but the two adult members have the option of separate billing wouldn't kill anyone.  You're still both claiming one another by Apple ID, so where's the problem?

  • by phatbhuda,

    phatbhuda phatbhuda Sep 22, 2014 7:37 AM in response to fromsouth
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    Sep 22, 2014 7:37 AM in response to fromsouth

    fromsouth wrote:

     

    Actually if I understood family sharing correctly, while it does require organizer to put up the credit card, every account in plan can have their own cards that will be charged first if they are on the account. For minors it can be itunes gift cards and that balance will be used first. Problem is you have to trust those people to pay their balances - once one family plan member defaults your card will get charged.

    How did you come to that understanding? I didn't see any text that suggested what you're saying but I definitely saw text that inferred the opposite.

     

    Thanks!

  • by phatbhuda,

    phatbhuda phatbhuda Sep 22, 2014 7:38 AM in response to Gtstricky
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    Sep 22, 2014 7:38 AM in response to Gtstricky

    Gtstricky wrote:

     

    No.

     

    It is set up that way to help prevent people from just adding their friends and sharing apps. Most other benifits you can do now, share photos, share calander, etc. Family share just makes it easier to do it all at once for....  your family, who you trust to make good purchases on your CC.

    Yeah, I already do just about everything else that Family Sharing does. The ability though, to lower the barrier of entry as far as difficulty goes, would go a long way to increase the adoption rate of those features by other, less tech savvy members of a family.

  • by fromsouth,

    fromsouth fromsouth Sep 22, 2014 5:53 PM in response to phatbhuda
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    Sep 22, 2014 5:53 PM in response to phatbhuda

    Making purchases

    After you set up your family, any time a family member initiates a new purchase it will be billed directly to your account unless that family member has gift or store credit. First, their store credit will be used to pay the partial or total bill. The remainder will bill to the family organizer. As the family organizer, any receipts generated by the transaction will be sent to you. Learn more about how iTunes Store purchases are billed.

     

    Family purchases and payments

  • by Holmes108,

    Holmes108 Holmes108 Dec 9, 2014 10:15 AM in response to fromsouth
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    Dec 9, 2014 10:15 AM in response to fromsouth

    All that mentions is having Apple store credit. Nothing about having separate credit cards, or any other type of separate billing.