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Q: Why can't I use my iCloud email address as my Apple ID

When I want to enter my iCloud email address (like foo@icloud.com) as my Apple ID, the system at appleid.apple.com tells me that I can't use an email address with a domain owned by Apple as my Apple ID which I find odd enough. I tried to create a new Apple ID through appleid.apple.com just to see what happens and even then it says that you cannot use an email address with an Apple domain.

 

It becomes even more odd when you consider that, if I'm not wrong, you can very well create a new Apple ID and use a new @icloud.com email address if you do it with an iPhone.

 

I can use my iCloud address as the primary email address of my Apple ID account so it's not a huge problem, but it still annoys me a little bit that the name of my Apple ID has to continue being my obsolete Gmail address.

 

Does anyone have more information on this?

Posted on Oct 15, 2012 8:48 AM

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  • by Ski22,

    Ski22 Ski22 Oct 9, 2014 10:42 AM in response to Matthew Palm
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    Oct 9, 2014 10:42 AM in response to Matthew Palm

    Yes, I added a secondary email address and used my icloud.com address.  But.....Apple still only sends you emails to your primary email address.  There isn't a way to have Apple send you correspondence to your secondary email address.

  • by JMeGusta,

    JMeGusta JMeGusta Oct 9, 2014 10:42 AM in response to Matthew Palm
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    Oct 9, 2014 10:42 AM in response to Matthew Palm

    The forwarding of mails from Apple is exactly the workaround I'm using. Works good but I'd prefer receiving the mails from apple concerning my apple account on my apple mail address, but thats seems to be too much to ask :/

  • by Matthew Palm,

    Matthew Palm Matthew Palm Oct 9, 2014 10:44 AM in response to JMeGusta
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    Oct 9, 2014 10:44 AM in response to JMeGusta

    Well, at least you're getting the Apple emails. But yeah, very frustrating.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 9, 2014 10:50 AM in response to JMeGusta
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    Oct 9, 2014 10:50 AM in response to JMeGusta

    Check the forward box and enter your email address, that's seconds of 'maintenance' that you won't have to do again.

  • by Ski22,

    Ski22 Ski22 Oct 9, 2014 11:08 AM in response to JMeGusta
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    Oct 9, 2014 11:08 AM in response to JMeGusta

    JMeGusta wrote:

     

    The forwarding of mails from Apple is exactly the workaround I'm using. Works good but I'd prefer receiving the mails from apple concerning my apple account on my apple mail address, but thats seems to be too much to ask :/                   

        

    That's my workaround too!!  I have to maintain my unused gmail account, just so I can get emails from Apple concerning my apple account.  Apple needs to fix this stupid issue.

  • by JMeGusta,

    JMeGusta JMeGusta Oct 9, 2014 11:31 AM in response to Csound1
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    Oct 9, 2014 11:31 AM in response to Csound1

    When your Gmail is very old and gets a lot of spam, you have to do some additional filtering, but your mostly right.

    For me it's also a kind of "aesthetic" issue to see my googlemail around deep inside of my Apple "universe", while I try to avoid google services wherever I can.

  • by bluefox34,

    bluefox34 bluefox34 Oct 9, 2014 2:22 PM in response to JMeGusta
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    Oct 9, 2014 2:22 PM in response to JMeGusta

    Yes you pretty much need to maintain a non-apple email address. Which is a weak security design and is unique to apple.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 9, 2014 2:38 PM in response to bluefox34
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    Oct 9, 2014 2:38 PM in response to bluefox34

    bluefox34 wrote:

     

    Yes you pretty much need to maintain a non-apple email address. Which is a weak security design and is unique to apple.

    Please explain how that constitutes weak security?

  • by bluefox34,

    bluefox34 bluefox34 Oct 9, 2014 2:41 PM in response to Csound1
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    Oct 9, 2014 2:41 PM in response to Csound1

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    bluefox34 wrote:

     

    Yes you pretty much need to maintain a non-apple email address. Which is a weak security design and is unique to apple.

    Please explain how that constitutes weak security?

     

    You can't figure it out?

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 9, 2014 2:43 PM in response to bluefox34
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    Oct 9, 2014 2:43 PM in response to bluefox34

    No, so I am asking you to explain, can you?

  • by bluefox34,

    bluefox34 bluefox34 Oct 9, 2014 2:49 PM in response to Csound1
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    Oct 9, 2014 2:49 PM in response to Csound1

    I already explained to you here on this thread two days ago (Oct 7, 2014 4:58 AM):

     

    bluefox34 wrote:

     

    So the issue is that apple requires you to maintain an email account elsewhere for their Apple ID account and email service. Most people aren't interested in maintaining two separate email accounts. Furthermore, it weakens the security because now you have two places to get hacked instead of one. Apple is alone in doing it this way. With the recent nude celebrity fiasco, you would think that apple would want to tighten up their security wherever they could but they don't seem interested.

     

    and here (Sep 16, 2014 3:50 PM)

     

    bluefox34 wrote:

     

    Agreed that Apple is shortsighted for designing such a system in the first place where the security of you account depends on two parties (Apple and other email provider) instead of just one(Apple). It is a headache for security minded users.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 9, 2014 2:53 PM in response to bluefox34
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    Oct 9, 2014 2:53 PM in response to bluefox34

    How would hacking the account used for the Apple ID compromise security, you have not explained anything yet. How would I gain access to your iCloud account by hacking your other account, how would I know what your Apple ID even is? It would be easier to guess if it were an iCloud address, less choices.

     

    Can you explain how security is compromised by using a different text string for the user ID of the account?

  • by Ski22,

    Ski22 Ski22 Oct 9, 2014 2:56 PM in response to bluefox34
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    Oct 9, 2014 2:56 PM in response to bluefox34

    bluefox34 wrote:

     

    You can't figure it out?

     

    Don't bother explaining to Csound1.  He has been a troll in this thread earlier, trying to cause trouble.  It's best not to feed the trolls. Most people know exactly what you mean by how it is a security issue.

  • by bluefox34,

    bluefox34 bluefox34 Oct 9, 2014 2:56 PM in response to Ski22
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    Oct 9, 2014 2:56 PM in response to Ski22

    Ski22 wrote:

     

    Don't bother explaining to Csound1.  He has been a troll in this thread earlier, trying to cause trouble.  Most people know exactly what you mean by how it is a security issue.

     

    Thanks, I'll ignore him from here on.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 9, 2014 2:59 PM in response to Ski22
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    Oct 9, 2014 2:59 PM in response to Ski22

    It is not a security issue, it is in fact slightly safer than using an iCloud address.

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