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Q: Why can't I use my iCloud email address as my Apple ID

When I want to enter my iCloud email address (like foo@icloud.com) as my Apple ID, the system at appleid.apple.com tells me that I can't use an email address with a domain owned by Apple as my Apple ID which I find odd enough. I tried to create a new Apple ID through appleid.apple.com just to see what happens and even then it says that you cannot use an email address with an Apple domain.

 

It becomes even more odd when you consider that, if I'm not wrong, you can very well create a new Apple ID and use a new @icloud.com email address if you do it with an iPhone.

 

I can use my iCloud address as the primary email address of my Apple ID account so it's not a huge problem, but it still annoys me a little bit that the name of my Apple ID has to continue being my obsolete Gmail address.

 

Does anyone have more information on this?

Posted on Oct 15, 2012 8:48 AM

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  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 10, 2014 2:34 PM in response to bluefox34
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    Oct 10, 2014 2:34 PM in response to bluefox34

    bluefox34 wrote:

     

    Imp68 wrote:

     

    Exactly.  People keep making it sound like it's some sort of hard work.  And easy arguments can be made for the benefits of having a 3rd party address, too, particularly account recover.

     

    It does have its benefits. But it's added risk too. Someone who gets into your gmail can use recovery and a bit of social engineering to get into your apple account.

    But first they would need to know your Apple ID. then they would need to know the password that goes with it for the email address it represents. Then they could start with your 'social engineering'

  • by bluefox34,

    bluefox34 bluefox34 Oct 10, 2014 2:51 PM in response to Csound1
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    Oct 10, 2014 2:51 PM in response to Csound1

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    bluefox34 wrote:

     

    Imp68 wrote:

     

    Exactly.  People keep making it sound like it's some sort of hard work.  And easy arguments can be made for the benefits of having a 3rd party address, too, particularly account recover.

     

    It does have its benefits. But it's added risk too. Someone who gets into your gmail can use recovery and a bit of social engineering to get into your apple account.

    But first they would need to know your Apple ID. then they would need to know the password that goes with it for the email address it represents. Then they could start with your 'social engineering'

     

    Not true. If your gmail account is compromised, they already know all of that.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 10, 2014 4:14 PM in response to bluefox34
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    Oct 10, 2014 4:14 PM in response to bluefox34

    You haven't though this through have you.

     

    I suggest you change to a more secure system if this one does not meet your, standards.

  • by Imp68,

    Imp68 Imp68 Oct 10, 2014 4:35 PM in response to bluefox34
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    Oct 10, 2014 4:35 PM in response to bluefox34

    If you have the details for someone's apple id, whether it is apple owned or not, doesn't prove any difference in security.

     

    If you feel that is not correct, outline what you mean in detail.  This is at least the second time you've been asked for proof.  It's hard to take your claim seriously if you don't back it up.

  • by bluefox34,

    bluefox34 bluefox34 Oct 10, 2014 4:35 PM in response to Csound1
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    Oct 10, 2014 4:35 PM in response to Csound1

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    You haven't though this through have you.

     

    I suggest you change to a more secure system if this one does not meet your, standards.

     

    That's a bad response. If someone points out a problem, the response should not be to "go elsewhere".

  • by bluefox34,

    bluefox34 bluefox34 Oct 10, 2014 4:38 PM in response to Imp68
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    Oct 10, 2014 4:38 PM in response to Imp68

    Imp68 wrote:

     

    If you have the details for someone's apple id, whether it is apple owned or not, doesn't prove any difference in security.

     

    If you feel that is not correct, outline what you mean in detail.  This is at least the second time you've been asked for proof.  It's hard to take your claim seriously if you don't back it up.

    I'm a bit lazy to make outlines. If you give me your gmail account I'll show you how I can take your apple account away from you. What do you have to lose if I fail?

  • by Imp68,

    Imp68 Imp68 Oct 10, 2014 4:42 PM in response to bluefox34
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    Oct 10, 2014 4:42 PM in response to bluefox34

    If you give anyone your information you can take away anyone's account, regardless of apple owned address or not.

     

    If you don't have any proof, just say so and we'll stop asking.

  • by bluefox34,

    bluefox34 bluefox34 Oct 10, 2014 4:46 PM in response to Imp68
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    Oct 10, 2014 4:46 PM in response to Imp68

    Imp68 wrote:

     

    If you give anyone your information you can take away anyone's account, regardless of apple owned address or not.

     

     

    Again not true. You can take my disposable yahoo account and you can't get into my apple account because the two are not associated together.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 10, 2014 4:50 PM in response to bluefox34
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    Oct 10, 2014 4:50 PM in response to bluefox34

    bluefox34 wrote:

     

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    You haven't though this through have you.

     

    I suggest you change to a more secure system if this one does not meet your, standards.

     

    That's a bad response. If someone points out a problem, the response should not be to "go elsewhere".

    The problem is in your mind, my solution will work very well for you.

  • by bluefox34,

    bluefox34 bluefox34 Oct 10, 2014 4:51 PM in response to Csound1
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    Oct 10, 2014 4:51 PM in response to Csound1

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    bluefox34 wrote:

     

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    You haven't though this through have you.

     

    I suggest you change to a more secure system if this one does not meet your, standards.

     

    That's a bad response. If someone points out a problem, the response should not be to "go elsewhere".

    The problem is in your mind, my solution will work very well for you.

     

    Others here disagree with you.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 10, 2014 5:04 PM in response to bluefox34
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    Oct 10, 2014 5:04 PM in response to bluefox34

    You are not alone in being wrong.

  • by bluefox34,

    bluefox34 bluefox34 Oct 10, 2014 5:09 PM in response to Csound1
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    Oct 10, 2014 5:09 PM in response to Csound1

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    You are not alone in being wrong.

     

    Says the person who was recommending abandoning apple id email address (which Apple explicitly advises against doing).

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 10, 2014 5:14 PM in response to bluefox34
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    Oct 10, 2014 5:14 PM in response to bluefox34

    bluefox34 wrote:

     

    Says the person who was recommending abandoning apple id email address (which Apple explicitly advises against doing).

    Please quote post in which I said that.

     

    Have you considered sticking to the truth?

  • by bluefox34,

    bluefox34 bluefox34 Oct 10, 2014 5:20 PM in response to Csound1
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    Oct 10, 2014 5:20 PM in response to Csound1

    You can retrieve it in this thread at this time stamp: Oct 7, 2014 5:03 AM

     

    Talk about being dead wrong.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 10, 2014 5:23 PM in response to bluefox34
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    Oct 10, 2014 5:23 PM in response to bluefox34

    There is nothing in that post that is "recommending abandoning apple id email address"

     

    You fail to quote what it is you claim I said, instead you identify an entirely irrelevant post. So far you have failed to back up a single thing you have claimed.

     

    I'm done with you.

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