Q: IPAD2 very slow after IOS 8 upgrade

Star Traveler wrote:

 

Did you see the post just before yours? ... "stevejallen"

 

ALSO ... did you do that as I was saying, including not loading back the personal data? And then ... if you see a problem from the "factory fresh" iPad, with no other data on it ... then take it down to see if the hardware is problematic. And if that is eliminated, then showing Apple what is happening to a "Factory Fresh iPad"?

 

Here's what I said there ...

 

Try to restore your iPad to "factory fresh condition". Apple is currently selling iPad 2s on their online store website, and those are "factory fresh iPad 2s" and thus are fully operational with iOS 8.0.2. You probably need to get your iPad 2 back to the factory installed condition, to see how it's operating.

 

Be sure to do your backups first, before fiddling with it. Here's how to get your iPad 2 - just like the ones that Apple is selling TODAY on their online store website.

 

Use iTunes to restore your iOS device to factory settings

 

Don't restore your personal data just yet. You can do that later. First try it out in the factory fresh condition and see how everything operates. If there are still major problems and things won't work properly, you may have a hardware problem that needs to be fixed. You'll have to schedule something with the Genius Bar.

 

http://www.apple.com/retail/geniusbar/

 

Try that and let me know how it goes ... :-) ...

i have have done everything you have suggested with several of our iPads. Everything. Taken a factory fresh ipad to the apple store, and the genius said that he was stumped, that there are others with the same problem, that there was no fix.

last week, we were told to consider buying a new one.

this week we even played with new iPads and demonstrated to the salespeople that copy paste was not working, and even got safari to hang where the device was non responsive for a full second or more. Also demonstrated the slow typing and very slow backspace/delete. Now mind you, it wasn't nearly as bad as our iPad 2/3 and minis, but they saw it.

taking the freshly restored ipad in, leaving it where it is not even setup on our corporate email was suggested by apple genius, so that was one step my techs have also done.

if, as you state, so many other people can use their iPads as if they were on iOS 7, then I would love to see it myself, on one of these or my own. Everyone I ask to let me see their iOS device quickly realizes there are issues once I tell them what to look for. Seems as though some people are just more forgiving than others, or oblivious to the problems.

so please, keep tbinking of things to try, and I will keep trying them.  Man, I wish copy and paste were working reliably for me. I cannot even paste another link that is to a blog of a person who has documented all their attempts to get a fully functional iPad since the update. He has a very detailed list of things to try, with screen shots. Alas, no luck there either

Here is another one ...

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Now I don't know how to get to this exact post, this is the thread that it's on ...

Will an iPad 2 be upgradable to iOS 8?

Now in regards to this kind of problem (which turns out to be various problems) this is what I know BEYOND ANY DOUBT ... and that is if you get the exact same machine and load on the exact same iOS, it's going to operate the EXACT SAME WAY ... period, and without question. The ONLY EXCEPTIONS is that there is a hardware problem, and Apple can check for that.

SO ... yes, many different individuals can have many different kinds of problems, but once you put them all back to their pristine condition they are ALL going to operate the same way. "People" don't work that way, but "machines" like the iPad certainly do WITHOUT A SINGLE EXCEPTION, otherwise, we better get a different definition for a "mass produced machine" ... :-) ...

JohnMHoyt wrote:

 

Man, I wish copy and paste were working reliably for me.

I'd like to know the details of the copy paste issue to see if I have similar problems. I've copied a link from one tab in Safari to another, but maybe that's not a good enough test. I heard that the copy/paste function works again after a reboot, but only once. Since I've done my Restore, perhaps I won't have the issue; but it would be good to know. When you attempt to copy and paste, are you simply not offered the option to paste, or you have the option, but nothing shows up?

This certainly was an unexpectedly complicated, time-consuming upgrade. Even though I'm much better than I was, I will not be upgrading my wife's iPad 2, despite Star Traveler's claim that Apple is selling refurbished iPad 2's with iOS8 (I doubt they have iOS8 on them).

-Jerry

JerryPele wrote:

 

This certainly was an unexpectedly complicated, time-consuming upgrade. Even though I'm much better than I was, I will not be upgrading my wife's iPad 2, despite Star Traveler's claim that Apple is selling refurbished iPad 2's with iOS8 (I doubt they have iOS8 on them).

 

-Jerry

I've never advised anyone to upgrade if they don't want to. That's totally up to the individual. What I have said is that Apple says that it can be upgraded to iOS 8 ... and that others have done it without any problems, plus others who have had problems and then fixed them and run on iOS 8.0.2 without any problems and without Apple doing a single thing to change iOS 8.0.2. SO ... if you don't want to upgrade it, you'll never hear an argument from me that you should.

BUT having said that, Apple is certainly selling iPad 2s on their online store, which are fully functional with iOS 8.0.2 ... per Apple's own word!

http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/ipad/ipad2

Here we are in October and Apple has done nothing to resolve software issues! I have 2 iPads a 2&4. Plus iMac, kids have iphones4-6...needles to say I love Apple in general but feel a lack of responsiveness to a huge issue that is adversely affecting so many customers is turning me off.  My iPad 2 is not just slow with apps it lags when I try to turn from Landscape to Upright positions. I thought something was wrong with my particular devise but after reading everyone's shared problems I can clearly see it is the Update that is killing us.

I'm running an iPad 3 on  iOS 8.0.2.  After upgrading to iOS 8, it exhibited all the slowness, non-responsiveness at times, and app failures that are reported in this thread.

Noting that my iPad had seen numerous iOS updates in its almost three years, I figured that it had a patches-on-patches code base, artifacts of old apps as well as iOS code fragments, and memory fragmentation -- all of which combined could not possibly be helping.,

Using iTunes, I did a Sync, followed by a full Back-up. 
Then I did a restore to factory settings, letting iTunes wipe the iPad clean and restore a fresh copy of iOS 8.0.2.
Then I let iTunes "Restore" re-install all the apps, then re-load all my data.

A final Sync to ensure data files were current, and I have a happy iPad now.

If anything, it's running better than before installing iOS 8 -- cleaning out all the crap has definitely helped.

Star Traveler is suggesting the same approach.  Star's observation that Apple Stores are selling new iPad 2 units with iOS 8 installed triggered my actions, and Star Traveler is right -- it all works fine.

See Use iTunes to restore your iOS device to factory settings and note that while the steps are the same, it won't flow exactly as described in this older thread.

I second this. After a Reset All Settings, my iPad 2 may still not be quite as fast as it was under iOS 7, but it has at least become functional once more. It's not a bad idea to do this regardless after upgrading to iOS 8. For example, I had an issue with Find My Friends that the reset fixed. It will, however, forget you wifi passwords, so be sure you know them before you do this.

There are other threads on the Apple forums about the copy and paste problem. However, none of them have an answer on how to fix it. One person started usin a 3rd party app called iClear (free) and I tried it. It''s better than not having any copy and paste, but Apple still needs to address the problem. With iClear you can see what is currently stored in the clipboard and you can also clear the clipboard. It usually works, but certainly not a solution to Apple's screw-up on iOS 8. Also, if you still have an iPad with iOS 7, I would STRONGLY advise against upgrading to iOS 8. Hope you get to read this before Star Tarveler deletes it.......

It's wonderful to see that iPad users are getting positive results from this solution. I know that others have gotten good results from some other suggested solutions here on this forum, too. There are obviously a variety of problems reported, and so it's to be expected that where one particular solution may not work ... another one may. It's about finding the right one for one's own iPad.

Glad to have you "back in the saddle" again!

Just got off the phone with Apple Level-2 and here's what worked for me:

1.  Backup to iTunes (NOT iCloud)—be sure to backup Apps

2.  Reset/Delete all content on device (so it's left "as new")

3.  Set up as new—doN't restore from backup

4.  Restore from iTUNES backup (NOT iCloud!)

5.  Then re-add your content.

Connie Hawkins42 wrote:

 

Just got off the phone with Apple Level-2 and here's what worked for me:

 

1.  Backup to iTunes (NOT iCloud)—be sure to backup Apps

2.  Reset/Delete all content on device (so it's left "as new")

3.  Set up as new—doN't restore from backup

4.  Restore from iTUNES backup (NOT iCloud!)

5.  Then re-add your content.

FYI - A backup to iTunes (your HD) is more comprehensive than a backup to iCloud although neither one includes the IOS itself.

Good to hear that! We're now getting some very good results for users here on this forum! Thanks for giving us this very specific information!

Fantastic! Glad to hear you had good results.

SOLVED:  IOS 8 Issues on iPad 2:

I just returned home from a visit to the Genius Bar. Like you and many others, when I upgraded my iPad 2 to IOS 8, it became practically unusable. It was VERY slow, lagged whenever trying to to do anything. Lots of screen freezes and apps spontaneously crashing. I was convinced that the processor on the iPad 2 just couldn't handle the new IOS and I went in to see about restoring to IOS 7.

Thankfully, I was hooked up with a very sharp guy at the bar. The problem is not with the OS, it is with it being an *upgraded* OS. He used the analogy of when you had an older Windows computer and how over time (and over upgrades), they just tended to get slower and slower because of all of the garbage that was carried forward in the upgrades. At those times (and if you've ever had a Windows computer, you get this), the only thing that would speed it up would be to wipe the machine and do a fresh install of the current OS and then reload your apps, and the viola, everything would be fast again. Well, it turns out that IOS can suffer the same problems.

THE FIX:  FIRST, be sure you have a current iCloud backup of your device.  Connect your iPad to a computer that has a clean fresh copy of IOS 8 on iTunes (this is best done with a computer other than the one that you sync your device to because you DO NOT want to restore it from a back up just yet). Ideally, if you do this at an Apple store you'll be assured of the right version there and someone to answer any questions you might have along the way. You then hold the power and home button down to hard-reset the device and continue to hold them down until it reboots into recovery mode. You then follow the instructions on the computer to reinstall the OS on the device (which wipes everything from it and then reinstalls a clean copy of it). Once this is done (which only takes about 15 minutes), your device will reboot and ask you to set it up. Answer the questions about language, location, etc. and continue until it asks you to log into your iTunes account. Once you do that, it will ask if you want to either 1) Set it up as a new device, 2) Restore from iCloud, or 3) Restore from iTunes. Choose (2), restore from iCloud. This will ensure that it brings down "clean" copies of all of your apps and preferences rather than the potentially corrupted ones that might reside in your iTunes backup. That's it! It will take a few hours depending on how much data and apps you have, but I am happy to report that my iPad 2 is now running IOS 8 and it's running as fast as it ever did when it was brand new!

To sum it up, this process 1) Wipes your device and the garbage causing your problems, 2) Loads a clean and bug-free version of IOS 8 to your device, and 3) restores your apps and data so that it looks just like it did before the wipe, with the exception that it works now!  :-)

Note also that by following this process you don't have to go through the painful and laborious process of reloading all of your apps, data and/or settings. iCloud takes care of all of that for you.

This is an EXCELLENT explanation and I'm keeping it and using it for others (giving credit to you, of course). I knew that it had to do a long use and corrupted files and I've tried to tell others that, but many don't want to listen. Thanks for relaying your experience at the Genius Bar.