Q: Why is Yosemite showing a load bar when I boot up my Mac(s)?

But you didn't substantiate it, you just repeated other peoples gossip.

I'll make it clearer for you, I am not interested in  what passes for 'substantiation' in your lexicon, I consider it no more than gossip and place no credence in it, or your conclusions.

Got that?

For you may be in your world,

However, Forums are meant to help people. When they think they may have a problem.

In this case  according to all the beta testers there is no problem with a Black Boot up screen to a White One. According to the testers the boot up screen colour depended upon the model of your macbook.

Yosemite will also know if your Mac can use Handoff

If it does not have a bluetooth 4.0 / LE card. Then it will not !

Amen. FUD is a self-fullfilling prophecy.

We now know, beyond any reasonable doubt that computer literacy, and common sense are not airborne infectious.

Looks to me like common sense is hardly infectious at all.

Something that isn't common sense (and isn't FUD) is the fact that a progress bar under the Apple USED to mean bad things. As my 2007 iMac was dying (either under Mavericks or Lion, can't recall), that progress bar meant the hard drive was being checked (something like Linux's "fsck", I imagine). If that happened every boot-up, that meant the drive was not doing so well.

So, seeing the bar now on Yosemite made me take pause. That's not unreasonable nor nonsensical. The bar looks very similar to what used to be an error condition (or at least a check for errors), and there is nothing else indicating it is "normal".

Are you saying you can't understand how someone might be a bit alarmed by that interface change, especially after doing an OS upgrade where things can go wrong?

Thanks,

sutekh

I spent 2 hours on phone yesterday trying to "fix" this on my iMac.  they thought it was a problem and we went several "things" and they finally had me erase my hard drive and reinstall then restore all my files.  what a pain.  after starting this process, I found this on my other 3 devices.  from working this and hearing other comments, I believe this is "normal" rather than a problem.

DO NOT ERASE HD AND TRY REINSTALLING...

If I was a guessing guy, and I am. I would think it has something to do with a new feature.  I personally don't think it is anything to worry about.  I don't think you have bad sectors on your hard drive.  I think with the iCloud drive and the way the new Yosemite communicates with all devices and shares information between apps that Yosemite is looking to the iCloud drive and loading information common to all devices.  This is an opinion, not a qualified fact.  It happened right after a software update, so for that reason I would exclude hardware issues.

Yes, it used to mean safe mode starting, But things change.

You know, one thing that I really enjoy about buying an Apple product is that even when things go wrong, there are either plenty of people willing to point someone in the right direction towards correcting the issue or offer advice to directly correct the issue itself. Usually, when people post on these boards, they are scared / freaking out that their beloved Apple product is not working as expected. An Apple product is an investment, not just in the future but money wise as well. That being said, I appreciate the folks here who go out of their way to help others in their time in need, no matter how small that help may be.

In the case of Csound1 and a few other "entitled" members here, sometimes it might be best to not help at all. While I recognize Csound1's experience and knowledge with Apple products, there is no need to be incredibly rude to others when helping out or talking to others who did their best to help as well. This does nothing for the community on these boards, and to be honest, it makes the rude offenders to look less of an experienced user and just more of a pompous jerk. I implore Csound1 and anyone else who may feel irritated when reading posts here, to remember that we are all flawed human beings just doing our best to help others, nothing more. Unless you are an actual Apple employee, I highly doubt you are the end all - be all in knowledge of these products, so show a little class?

Thanks for reading and I return the thread to it's intended topic.

I agree, and I am not against change. However, using what used to be a non-standard condition UI element to now mean "business as usual" is sort of...daft, in a way. Don't you think? At the very least, it isn't odd for folks to be a little bit alarmed.

Not to mention, what will they display now when "safe mode" is starting? A second progress bar? A red one?

If an interface is not going to use words to aid with context (like saying "Welcome!" as opposed to "Safe Mode Starting...") then I think the interface designers need to be careful about what they add (or remove) from standard locations that folks get used to.

Thanks,

sutekh138

I can add to the confirmations that this is not a problem. The progress bar is how things boot up now.

I only have one Mac, but I created two USB recovery drives, have the recovery partition internally, and have a Time Machine backup drive. So, I booted into all of those, and the progress bar showed for all. It was slow where one would expect (USB 2.0), a bit faster on USB 3.0, and fastest on the recovery from the internal drive.

But it's just the way of things now. Seems really dumb to me considering a bar used to mean there were potential issues, but things were bound to change at some point...

My remaining question is: how do they indicate a boot into safe mode and/or a hard drive check now? Same progress bar, it just runs more slowly?

Thanks,

sutekh138

Birddad wrote:

 

If I was a guessing guy, and I am. I would think it has something to do with a new feature.

OSX has always had a progress indicator when booting, it used to be a spinning grey wheel, now it's a blue bar. Nothing else happened.

You might find you get a better response if you start a new thread with your issue

Safe mode displays the same bar, so if you forget whether or not you held the shift key down it's no help, until you boot.

same situation in Yosemite the restart is different ... Even thinking there was a problem, I have reinstalled several times, a clean restore, even from a clean Lion, and stays the same.