Windshadow99
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Q: More boot camp problems new 5k imac 3 tera fusion drive

there seems to be problems with Yosemite and boot camp assistant


i'm cross posting this to the iMac forum but I spent hours online with apple tech today and none of the several foks I talked to there had even seen a 5k 27" yet and my call back from Cupertino and engineering is no till tomorrow so I thought I should post here too

MMy bto 5k shipped from China sunday night and arrived in Maine this morning.... Amazing when you think about it for a bto

iinstallation and set up we're going fine and I started up boot camp assistant to create  a temp boot camp while I wait for my thunder bay 4 box to take the drives for my old Mac pro when boot camp will have a1 tera SSD all to itself....

so carved off a 700 gig boot camp partition which the assistant formatted fat I then plugged is the lighting to FW adapter in a LaCie 2 tera fw 800 drive to act as a bridge to my LaCie DVD burner which uses the old fw400 cables and inserted my new shrink wrap win 8.1 retail 64 DVD and up comes the win 8 install in very tiny type in a tiny window which got a bit of a laugh out of me.

 

And I go through it to the point of selecting that boot camp partition and then said it could not use a fat partition and I should reformat it from the win 8.1 installer which I did and then it said it could not use and unknown partition so I said great and booted back to 10-10 and the boot camp tool to put things back and it said it could not I then went to disk tools and it also said the  3tera fusion could not be either reformatted or put back to a single partition I was on with tech support where I went up through 4 levels of support due to the 5k bto which most had no knowledge of. We tried the optioncommand r to get to DT and the same problem as did going to reinstall from the net which after a 30 min down load could not reformat either it is now kicked to Cupertino with a call back tomorrow

 

( At this point all I want to do is put the computer back in the condition it was in when i started with a plain Yosemite on an unpartitioned 3 tera fusion... Then deal with boot camp when it can have its own drive)

am betting it will take a Unix comand line to reformat but be aware there may be boot camp issues with my configuration

and  any help here will be great fully received

iMac, OS X Yosemite (10.10)

Posted on Oct 21, 2014 4:04 PM

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Windshadow99 wrote:

 

I Sure do wonder what caused all this problem in the first place

In one word - "Yosemite".

Posted on Oct 22, 2014 10:39 AM

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  • by Windshadow99,

    Windshadow99 Windshadow99 Oct 22, 2014 12:57 PM in response to Loner T
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    Oct 22, 2014 12:57 PM in response to Loner T

    OOk how do I  deal with restarts during the install hod option and select the efi each time?

    it just said it would restart several times during the install...

     

    and and it has Xed out

     

    Windows could not prepare the computer to boot into the next phase of the installation. to install windows restart the installation

  • by Windshadow99,

    Windshadow99 Windshadow99 Oct 22, 2014 1:14 PM in response to Windshadow99
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    Oct 22, 2014 1:14 PM in response to Windshadow99

    SSo ran it again and windows  no longer is showing a 600 gb space even thought it was there the first time it got past selecting the 600+ gig the first time though

    it now is saying drive 3 unalocated space 931.1 gb and I do not see any drives showing 600 gb

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Oct 22, 2014 1:17 PM in response to Windshadow99
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    Can you post diskutil list output?

  • by Windshadow99,

    Windshadow99 Windshadow99 Oct 22, 2014 1:22 PM in response to Loner T
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    Oct 22, 2014 1:22 PM in response to Loner T

    -bash-3.2# diskutil list

    /dev/disk0

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *121.3 GB   disk0

       1:                        EFI EFI                     209.7 MB   disk0s1

       2:          Apple_CoreStorage                         121.0 GB   disk0s2

       3:                 Apple_Boot Boot OS X               134.2 MB   disk0s3

    /dev/disk1

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *3.0 TB     disk1

       1:                        EFI EFI                     209.7 MB   disk1s1

       2:          Apple_CoreStorage                         2.4 TB     disk1s2

       3:                 Apple_Boot Recovery HD             650.1 MB   disk1s3

       4: DE94BBA4-06D1-4D40-A16A-BFD50179D6AC               314.6 MB   disk1s4

       5:                        EFI NO NAME                 104.9 MB   disk1s5

       6:         Microsoft Reserved                         134.2 MB   disk1s6

       7:       Microsoft Basic Data                         599.7 GB   disk1s7

    /dev/disk2

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:     Apple_partition_scheme                        *1.3 GB     disk2

       1:        Apple_partition_map                         30.7 KB    disk2s1

       2:                  Apple_HFS OS X Base System        1.3 GB     disk2s2

    /dev/disk3

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:                  Apple_HFS Macintosh HD           *2.5 TB     disk3

                                     Logical Volume on disk0s2, disk1s2

                                     2F8B1E82-11CC-4B2F-9AE8-A03854BF4E1E

                                     Unencrypted Fusion Drive

    /dev/disk4

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:                            untitled               *5.2 MB     disk4

    /dev/disk5

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *2.0 TB     disk5

       1:                        EFI EFI                     209.7 MB   disk5s1

       2:       Microsoft Basic Data Union                   500.1 GB   disk5s2

       3:                  Apple_HFS Shimmo                  499.6 GB   disk5s3

       4:                 Apple_Boot Recovery HD             650.0 MB   disk5s4

       5:                  Apple_HFS Orange                  500.1 GB   disk5s5

       6:                  Apple_HFS Newcastle               499.4 GB   disk5s6

    /dev/disk6

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:                            untitled               *524.3 KB   disk6

    /dev/disk7

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:                            untitled               *524.3 KB   disk7

    /dev/disk8

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:                            untitled               *524.3 KB   disk8

    /dev/disk9

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:                            untitled               *524.3 KB   disk9

    /dev/disk10

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:                            IR3_CCSA_X64FRE_EN-... *4.1 GB     disk10

    /dev/disk11

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:                            untitled               *524.3 KB   disk11

    /dev/disk12

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:                            untitled               *6.3 MB     disk12

    /dev/disk13

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:                            untitled               *2.1 MB     disk13

    /dev/disk14

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:                            untitled               *1.0 MB     disk14

    /dev/disk15

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:     FDisk_partition_scheme                        *15.6 GB    disk15

       1:                 DOS_FAT_32 ABOOTCAMP               15.6 GB    disk15s1

    /dev/disk16

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:                            untitled               *524.3 KB   disk16

    /dev/disk17

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:                            untitled               *524.3 KB   disk17

    /dev/disk18

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:                            untitled               *1.0 MB     disk18

    /dev/disk19

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:                            untitled               *6.3 MB     disk19

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Oct 22, 2014 1:29 PM in response to Windshadow99
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    Oct 22, 2014 1:29 PM in response to Windshadow99

    You seem to be using Recovery. You should be in regular OSX to start BA.

  • by Windshadow99,

    Windshadow99 Windshadow99 Oct 22, 2014 1:33 PM in response to Loner T
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    Oct 22, 2014 1:33 PM in response to Loner T

    i did not use BA i had the thumb drive it created yesterday Abootcamp an i just restarted with option and selected the EFI part of the 8.1 dvd it shows 2 dvd icons one named windows the other boot EFI i think

  • by Windshadow99,

    Windshadow99 Windshadow99 Oct 22, 2014 1:43 PM in response to Windshadow99
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    Oct 22, 2014 1:43 PM in response to Windshadow99

    and it looks like i am back where i was this morning BA once more reports

    i think it is time to take up drinking

     

    The startup disk cannot be partitioned or restored to a single partition.

    The startup disk must be formatted as a single Mac OS Extended (Journaled) volume or already partitioned by Boot Camp Assistant for installing Windows.

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Oct 22, 2014 2:32 PM in response to Windshadow99
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    Oct 22, 2014 2:32 PM in response to Windshadow99

    You should have not any of disk6-9, disk11-14 or disk 16-19. If you exit out of terminal, are you still in recovery console?

     

    Please startup using regular OS X and run diskutil list, and we can cleanup. I would not use the USB you have. If you have a W8.1 DVD, I suggest just using that to install.

  • by Windshadow99,

    Windshadow99 Windshadow99 Oct 22, 2014 2:57 PM in response to Loner T
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    Oct 22, 2014 2:57 PM in response to Loner T

    OOk grabbing som supper back at it in about an hour... Nearest Chinese take out is about 20 min away.

     

    i Booted back int OS X and got that report when I ran BI from it disk tools shows 2 small partitions and under them the now 599gig NC partition but it also once more reports that the drive can no longer be partitioned depending on how many drinks I have when I get home with my fried rice and kung po chicken extra hot I may be putting this off till tomorrow I wil any way pull a ddiskutil list from OS X terminal as soon as I eat

     

     

    you have the patience of job putting up with idiots like me. Was my main error going with 8.1 rather than 7.x? I ironed out my rough spots with XP years ago and was used to its ways... Wish it was still supported

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Oct 22, 2014 3:00 PM in response to Windshadow99
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    Oct 22, 2014 3:00 PM in response to Windshadow99

    The first W8.1 attempt did create an MSR/MSD partition, but failed somewhere else. It left it dangling. We can merge all the small chunks, and get it back again. Post back when you want to play a bit more. .Enjoy Supper!

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Oct 22, 2014 4:23 PM in response to Windshadow99
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    Oct 22, 2014 4:23 PM in response to Windshadow99

    You have DE94BBA4-06D1-4D40-A16A-BFD50179D6AC this is one partition which is Windows Recovery. And then you have these failed, ones. BA is trying to partition, because you have a problem here. I have a suspicion, but when you can play with it we can confirm it.

     

    4: DE94BBA4-06D1-4D40-A16A-BFD50179D6AC               314.6 MB   disk1s4

    5:                        EFI NO NAME                 104.9 MB   disk1s5

    6:         Microsoft Reserved                         134.2 MB   disk1s6

    7:       Microsoft Basic Data                         599.7 GB   disk1s7

  • by Windshadow99,

    Windshadow99 Windshadow99 Oct 22, 2014 5:45 PM in response to Loner T
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    Oct 22, 2014 5:45 PM in response to Loner T

    on the off chance that some of this might be of use i leave it here

     

    diskutil list

    /dev/disk0

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *121.3 GB   disk0

       1:                        EFI EFI                     209.7 MB   disk0s1

       2:          Apple_CoreStorage                         121.0 GB   disk0s2

       3:                 Apple_Boot Boot OS X               134.2 MB   disk0s3

    /dev/disk1

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *3.0 TB     disk1

       1:                        EFI EFI                     209.7 MB   disk1s1

       2:          Apple_CoreStorage                         2.4 TB     disk1s2

       3:                 Apple_Boot Recovery HD             650.1 MB   disk1s3

       4: DE94BBA4-06D1-4D40-A16A-BFD50179D6AC               314.6 MB   disk1s4

       5:                        EFI NO NAME                 104.9 MB   disk1s5

       6:         Microsoft Reserved                         134.2 MB   disk1s6

       7:       Microsoft Basic Data                         599.7 GB   disk1s7

    /dev/disk2

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:                  Apple_HFS Macintosh HD           *2.5 TB     disk2

                                     Logical Volume on disk0s2, disk1s2

                                     2F8B1E82-11CC-4B2F-9AE8-A03854BF4E1E

                                     Unencrypted Fusion Drive

    /dev/disk3

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *2.0 TB     disk3

       1:                        EFI EFI                     209.7 MB   disk3s1

       2:       Microsoft Basic Data Union                   500.1 GB   disk3s2

       3:                  Apple_HFS Shimmo                  499.6 GB   disk3s3

       4:                 Apple_Boot Recovery HD             650.0 MB   disk3s4

       5:                  Apple_HFS Orange                  500.1 GB   disk3s5

       6:                  Apple_HFS Newcastle               499.4 GB   disk3s6

    /dev/disk4

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:     FDisk_partition_scheme                        *15.6 GB    disk4

       1:                 DOS_FAT_32 ABOOTCAMP               15.6 GB    disk4s1

    Ls-iMac:~

    diskutil list

    /dev/disk0

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *121.3 GB   disk0

       1:                        EFI EFI                     209.7 MB   disk0s1

       2:          Apple_CoreStorage                         121.0 GB   disk0s2

       3:                 Apple_Boot Boot OS X               134.2 MB   disk0s3

    /dev/disk1

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *3.0 TB     disk1

       1:                        EFI EFI                     209.7 MB   disk1s1

       2:          Apple_CoreStorage                         2.4 TB     disk1s2

       3:                 Apple_Boot Recovery HD             650.1 MB   disk1s3

       4: DE94BBA4-06D1-4D40-A16A-BFD50179D6AC               314.6 MB   disk1s4

       5:                        EFI NO NAME                 104.9 MB   disk1s5

       6:         Microsoft Reserved                         134.2 MB   disk1s6

       7:       Microsoft Basic Data                         599.7 GB   disk1s7

    /dev/disk2

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:                  Apple_HFS Macintosh HD           *2.5 TB     disk2

                                     Logical Volume on disk0s2, disk1s2

                                     2F8B1E82-11CC-4B2F-9AE8-A03854BF4E1E

                                     Unencrypted Fusion Drive

    /dev/disk3

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *2.0 TB     disk3

       1:                        EFI EFI                     209.7 MB   disk3s1

       2:       Microsoft Basic Data Union                   500.1 GB   disk3s2

       3:                  Apple_HFS Shimmo                  499.6 GB   disk3s3

       4:                 Apple_Boot Recovery HD             650.0 MB   disk3s4

       5:                  Apple_HFS Orange                  500.1 GB   disk3s5

       6:                  Apple_HFS Newcastle               499.4 GB   disk3s6

    /dev/disk4

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:     FDisk_partition_scheme                        *15.6 GB    disk4

       1:                 DOS_FAT_32 ABOOTCAMP               15.6 GB    disk4s1

    Ls-iMac:~ lrandolphlee$ diskutil cs list

    CoreStorage logical volume groups (1 found)

    |

    +-- Logical Volume Group 153ED13B-3675-40D1-9469-2E1A3B4167EC

        =========================================================

        Name:         OSX-FusionLVG

        Status:       Online

        Size:         2520472952832 B (2.5 TB)

        Free Space:   65536 B (65.5 KB)

        |

        +-< Physical Volume E5B22231-71E8-49A0-B823-C9CDD51DBB36

        |   ----------------------------------------------------

        |   Index:    0

        |   Disk:     disk0s2

        |   Status:   Online

        |   Size:     120988852224 B (121.0 GB)

        |

        +-< Physical Volume 4AA11193-404F-4A0B-A0BF-8815703F35F1

        |   ----------------------------------------------------

        |   Index:    1

        |   Disk:     disk1s2

        |   Status:   Online

        |   Size:     2399484100608 B (2.4 TB)

        |

        +-> Logical Volume Family 48FC4D5C-8729-4EB5-A194-0714015C26E5

            ----------------------------------------------------------

            Encryption Status:       Unlocked

            Encryption Type:         None

            Conversion Status:       NoConversion

            Conversion Direction:    -none-

            Has Encrypted Extents:   No

            Fully Secure:            No

            Passphrase Required:     No

            |

            +-> Logical Volume 2F8B1E82-11CC-4B2F-9AE8-A03854BF4E1E

                ---------------------------------------------------

                Disk:                  disk2

                Status:                Online

                Size (Total):          2514617630720 B (2.5 TB)

                Conversion Progress:   -none-

                Revertible:            No

                LV Name:               Macintosh HD

                Volume Name:           Macintosh HD

                Content Hint:          Apple_HFS

    Ls-iMac:~

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    time for me to be burden to my bed  see you in about 10 or 12 hours    hic

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Oct 22, 2014 7:43 PM in response to Windshadow99
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    Oct 22, 2014 7:43 PM in response to Windshadow99

    Thanks for posting this. It helps a lot and when you roll out of bed, you can implement what I suggest. If you notice, none of the virtual disks are now showing up in your diskutil list output. You stop at disk4, not disk19, etc..

     

    Let me first provide an explanation, and then proceed further. The Windows MSR is a FAT partition. A FAT partition beyond the 2TB boundary cannot be addressed, by design of FAT.  This mandates that the MSR partition should be within the first 2TB of the disk. the 600GB for Windows is past the 2TB at 2.4TB+. The W8.1 installer creates but cannot access it once created, so it never works.

     

    Since you already have CoreStorage defined, there is no need to destroy it again. The physical disk (PV) which is the HD, needs to removed, re-partitioned and the higher chunk starting at 600GB+ till 3TB should be given to the CS volume for OSX. You need to make sure the next steps are executed ONLY if the disk space used in OSX is less than 120GB (as that is the limit of the SSD). If the HDD is removed, all data for Yosemite MUST fit on the SSD temporarily, till the HDD can be added back.

     

    1. Verify that Macintosh HD is less than 120GB. It can be done by right-clicking on it in Finder and using "Get Info" or Command+I.

    2. If #1 is true, then remove the PV (3TB HDD chunk disk1s2) from Core storage using (the data came from your diskutil cs list output)

    diskutil cs removeDisk 4AA11193-404F-4A0B-A0BF-8815703F35F1

    3. Run Disk Utility, and "Ignore" the "Fix", split it into two parts. The first part HDD1 is 600GB of Free Space, the remainder is 2.4TB of Mac OSX Extended Journaled.

    4. Your 3TB HDD will look like EFI (200MB), Free Space (~600GB), MAC OSX (~2.4TB).

    5. Run diskutil list.

    6. Find out from Step 5, what disk1sN it is (N is what is needed).

    7. Add the device from step 6 to CS volume as

    diskutil cs addDisk 153ED13B-3675-40D1-9469-2E1A3B4167EC Step6-disk1sN.

    8. Install W8.1 on the Free Space (~600GB). This will get split by W8.1 installer into MSR and MSD partitions. If you have issues, please post back here. You can directly use the EFI Boot from the W8.1 DVD. The advantage of the Bootcamp USB is that it will also install Bootcamp drivers automatically.

     

    The adventure continues, with a hang(over)up though.

     

    This is the general syntax of the two commands used.

     

    diskutil cs removeDisk

    Usage:  diskutil coreStorage removeDisk pvUUID

    Remove a physical volume from its CoreStorage logical volume group.

    Ownership of the affected disks is required.

    Example: diskutil coreStorage removeDisk 11111111-2222-3333-4444-555555555555

     

    diskutil cs addDisk

    Usage:  diskutil coreStorage addDisk lvgUUID NewMemberDeviceName

    Add a new physical volume to a CoreStorage logical volume group.

    Ownership of the affected disks is required.

    Example: diskutil coreStorage addDisk

             11111111-2222-3333-4444-555555555555 disk4s2

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Oct 22, 2014 10:18 PM in response to Windshadow99
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    Oct 22, 2014 10:18 PM in response to Windshadow99

    Here is some more reading material if you are so inclined - http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/dn640535(v=vs.85).aspx

  • by Windshadow99,

    Windshadow99 Windshadow99 Oct 23, 2014 7:38 AM in response to Loner T
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    Oct 23, 2014 7:38 AM in response to Loner T

    just joined the land of the living and about to go read the

    http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/dn640535(v=vs.85).aspx

    you posted the info you posted last night is a huge help in getting me to understand what is going on and i will try to implement it when i finish the reading

    btw when do you sleep or are some sort of huge AI running on a cluster of supercomputers?

    i confess to being a bit surprised by these limitations   in a modern 64it OS

    should the one gig of files that BI put on my 16GB thumb usb stick be plugged in as a part of the process

    and once i get the above things done do i go directly to the efi boot of the install dvd via option restart? and not use BI at all?

    that is how i understand it but just double checking

    Screen Shot 2014-10-23 at 10.24.56 AM.png

     

     

    oh and as you can see i am good on disk spaceScreen Shot 2014-10-23 at 10.18.55 AM.png

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