Q: Why is Yosemite showing a load bar when I boot up my Mac(s)?
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Oct 24, 2014 1:27 AMby JEL888,I'll like to add that not only an I concerned because I installed Yosemite and at first DID NOT have this bar, and then because the "télécharger" (French Apple Store, means "Install") still showed that I could install, I took it to mean that my install didn't happen or wasn't complete (because when I clicked the arrow that's part of the button next to the word Install, it said to Install if you want the "complete" version (so it confused me).
So I reinstalled Yosemite (also does this mean I have two on my HD?). After this install (which didn't ask me all of the same set up questions, THEN I had the bar. Also, does anyone else have a small "apple" icon in the upper left corner of there screen on the start-up screen as well?
BTW, I have a "black" start-up screen versus the grey of Mavericks & the first Yosemite install I did. I'm concerned and am thinking about contacting Apple today about it. I agree, it doesn't make sense to have a slower start up. What I like the MOST about having a Mac is the fast start up, so if I lose that advantage, sorry...I may drop my MAC use (and I'm a newly converted MAC user.
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Oct 24, 2014 1:36 AMby JEL888,Sorry, but that not the point. It's not about "instantaneously" starting, but it is about virtually immediately seeing your sign-on screen versus first seeing a bar loading screen and then your sign-on screen. On my macbook air dated this year, when it had Mavericks that's how it was. Power-on, black screen for a hot second, then grey sign-on, tada! Now, it's black bar loading with small apple in the upper right corner screen for three to five seconds, then sign-on grey screen.
It's a small difference perhaps, but a difference in the wrong direction nonetheless. And I want to note, that I accidentally twice installed Yosemite and DID NOT have this bar the first time and now have the bar screen after the second update, so yes...I understand the concern people are having.
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Oct 24, 2014 1:36 AMby Chippy99,Csound1 wrote:
Chippy99 wrote:
Well I don't know about this bar making booting feel faster, it's quite the opposite to me: It feels much slower.
Did it seem faster with the little grey pinwheel instead?
I can't remember what it did before, but yes it felt much faster before. Whether this is my imagination, I can't be certain, but the boot process under Yosemite (all things being equal) feels slower. -
Oct 24, 2014 2:25 AMby JEL888,I called and this is the Apple answer I got:
Yes, Yosemite is heavier than Mavericks, thus why the load time at boot is a slightly longer (and I agree it's only slightly seconds longer). So, that's why the bar shows for the load. Also, the smaller apple icon in the right corner indicates the wifi, etc., being accessed, turned on, etc. (apparently before there was another symbol, but because Mavericks loaded so fast, I never saw any other icons at start-up.)
So I feel better, as the guy seemed genuine, informed and ready for my question. Oh, and as for the wifi issues crowd (I've not been having much wifi issues under Yosemite), the guy didn't right out say so, but a patch is on it's way soon I think.
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Oct 24, 2014 2:50 AMby Chippy99,JEL888 wrote:
I called and this is the Apple answer I got:
Yes, Yosemite is heavier than Mavericks, thus why the load time at boot is a slightly longer (and I agree it's only slightly seconds longer).
Begs the question, how and why is it "heavier"? I so hate bloatware. It's one of the main reasons I moved away from Windows, the incessant increase in the amount of garbage that has to be loaded and processed, simply to boot up and open a damned browser.
Here we are in 2014 with desktop processors more powerful than those that ran huge mainframes not long ago, and with disks and SSD's that are thousands of times faster, and still we have 20 or 30 second boot times. How many instructions, reads and writes does it need to switch something on?
For the life of me, I fail to understand why booting should take more than 1 or 2 seconds. -
Oct 24, 2014 3:16 AMby petermac87,peite wrote:
Please take away that loading-bar.
Sorry. No can do. You could suggest it to Apple, maybe at feedback
Pete
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Oct 24, 2014 3:22 AMby JEL888,A agree, I mentioned that early too that my reason for going MAC were speed (and I'd add battery), so Apple must keep these aspects fo their products tiptop or they'll loose clients. For now, my Air still is much faster than most PC's, so I can live with it, but anyone who went from iPad, to iPad 2, etc. know that with every iOS update, your material slows down, eventually considerably, so I'm hoping not to love through that with my Air as fast as I did with the iPad or my HP PC's.
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Oct 24, 2014 4:03 AMby innocentius,I have totally different experience. On my new Mac Pro at start up the progress bar appears for 2-3 seconds the the finder appears almost instantly. The Whole process takes about 5 seconds. Also I have noticed that shut down happen instantly, no delay, it took longer time with Mavericks. I only have few application on my computer. I use the mac almost only for video editing FCPX. I have no idea what is going on with other users, maybe to many third party stuff.
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Oct 24, 2014 9:50 AMby ersr,EtreCheck version: 2.0.6 (91)
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