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Q: Aperture 3.6 and iPhoto 9.6 in Yosemite opens to a blank workspace

After upgrading to Yosemite 10.10 and Aperture 3.6 I was initially able to open my photos library (led on an external thunderbolt drive, over 63000 images, and over 350 Gb). Then yesterday, upon opening Aperture I get a message that the file needs to repair permissions in iPhoto in order to open. I don't use iPhoto, but knowing there is a unified file structure, I downloaded iPhoto and repaired the file permissions. Upon completion, iPhoto and Aperture open to the default external photos file but a blank screen comes up in Aperture, and a introductory screen comes up in iPhoto. I have gone thru the process of:

1) opening both apps with "command" "option"  and progressing down the repair/rebuild options with the same end result.

2) initiated a time machine restore. A message box comes up asking me if I want to keep the original photo files, make duplicates, or replace the existing files. I chose to keep the originals.

 

After the backup the same result occur as before. What should I try next?

Model Name: Mac Pro

  Model Identifier: M

System info: MacPro *-Core Intel Xenon E5, 3Gz,Memory 64Gb

Storage internal HD 256Gb, External Promise Pegasus 6Tb

 

Model Name: Mac Pro

  Model Identifier: M

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Posted on Oct 24, 2014 10:20 AM

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Q: Aperture 3.6 and iPhoto 9.6 in Yosemite opens to a blank workspace

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  • by norbertmuc,

    norbertmuc norbertmuc Oct 24, 2014 11:42 PM in response to drtaters78
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    Oct 24, 2014 11:42 PM in response to drtaters78

    See my post further up:

      

      

    Had the same problem. When opening iPhoto it creates a file to communicate with Aperture and there is apparently a bug. On advice from Apple I deleted all files in Library/Application Support associated with iPhoto and now Aperture pops up immediately. Advice from Apple: Don't open iPhoto till there is an update for this bug.

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Oct 25, 2014 12:41 AM in response to norbertmuc
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    Oct 25, 2014 12:41 AM in response to norbertmuc

    Norbert, I cannot find the post you are referring to.

     

    Have you had the problem with Aperture 3.6? This is surprising, since the Aperture 3.6 released is supposed to fix this bug, see the release Notes: Aperture 3.6 Release notes

     

    Aperture 3.6 Update

    • Adds compatibility with OS X Yosemite.
    • Fixes an issue that could cause Aperture performance to slow down while browsing through images with onscreen proofing enabled.
    • Fixes an issue where Aperture could become unresponsive in rare cases when adding to a shared photo stream.
    • Fixes an issue that could cause Aperture to unexpectedly quit when using the Write IPTC Metadata to Originals feature.
    • Aperture no longer displays the alert, “This library has been opened with a newer version of Aperture.” when using Library First Aid with libraries previously opened in iPhoto.

    Do you remember, which of the presets in Library/Application Support actually is causing the problem, since deleting all of them is causing a lot of work to restore the custom settings? It would be great to know the specific file.

  • by drtaters78,

    drtaters78 drtaters78 Oct 25, 2014 5:40 AM in response to norbertmuc
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    Oct 25, 2014 5:40 AM in response to norbertmuc

    I tried this, and even went as far as to delete iPhoto altogether. Still have the same blank workspace

  • by drtaters78,

    drtaters78 drtaters78 Oct 25, 2014 5:57 AM in response to drtaters78
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    Oct 25, 2014 5:57 AM in response to drtaters78

    I also rebooted the computer without effect.

     

    I also tried opening the photo library by going to "switch to library", and by clicking on the photo file directly in Finder also to no effect.

    While looking at my blank Aperture screen I decided to click though the various Libraries in the L bar; Projects, Photos, Faces, etc. When I got to iCloud the introductory banner shows up indicating that I am signed in under my existing account:Screen Shot 2014-10-25 at 8.51.14 AM.png

    When I click on Use iCloud I get this message:Screen Shot 2014-10-25 at 8.51.58 AM.png

    Which suggests that even though I am designating the Photos library to be opened, aperture opens without recognising this library

  • by léonie,Helpful

    léonie léonie Oct 25, 2014 6:00 AM in response to drtaters78
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    Oct 25, 2014 6:00 AM in response to drtaters78

    Can Aperture open a new, empty library on your internal drive? And can you add image files to the Library?

  • by drtaters78,

    drtaters78 drtaters78 Oct 25, 2014 6:05 AM in response to léonie
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    Oct 25, 2014 6:05 AM in response to léonie

    Yes

  • by léonie,Helpful

    léonie léonie Oct 25, 2014 6:11 AM in response to drtaters78
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    Oct 25, 2014 6:11 AM in response to drtaters78

    Then check, if Aperture can work with a new, empty library on your external drive. This will tell us, if the drive is the problem or your main aperture library.

  • by norbertmuc,

    norbertmuc norbertmuc Oct 25, 2014 6:14 AM in response to léonie
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    Oct 25, 2014 6:14 AM in response to léonie

    7 post below I said the same thing (Aperture and iPhoto starting slow).

    See my discussion at the end of this post http://www.apertureforum.de/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=3291

     

    I had a 2 hours session with Apple to finally get A3 starting immidiately, and they said to not open iPhoto.

     

    The first time after deleting the filea A3 opened immediately, the iPhoto opened immediately. When restarting A3 took 3 minutes again, apparently because of what iPhoto did upon opening. We did the whole deleting routine again - A3 opens fine but I didn'touch iPhoto again.

    BTW When I had those issues, in the Aktivitätsanzeige there was a process "Digitale Bilder Erweiterung" that was taken up 500 MB of RAM. and com.apple. geod was not responding (red). now all these processes are gone.

  • by norbertmuc,

    norbertmuc norbertmuc Oct 25, 2014 6:19 AM in response to léonie
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    Oct 25, 2014 6:19 AM in response to léonie

    I had no trouble with a new account and a new library. But going back to the real thing,  same problem.

    I think the trouble is in the iLifeAssetManagement folder, which is in Application support in the system library.

  • by drtaters78,

    drtaters78 drtaters78 Oct 25, 2014 6:28 AM in response to léonie
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    Oct 25, 2014 6:28 AM in response to léonie

    I was able to import photos to the external drive Aperture file that Aperture created on it's own within my referenced file. Which I believe is the file Aperture goes to when I tired to open my "Photos" file (which hadbeen my program launch file before this problem started)Screen Shot 2014-10-25 at 9.27.35 AM.pngScreen Shot 2014-10-25 at 9.27.59 AM.png

  • by drtaters78,

    drtaters78 drtaters78 Oct 25, 2014 6:36 AM in response to norbertmuc
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    Oct 25, 2014 6:36 AM in response to norbertmuc

    This folder does not exist in my Library Folder

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Oct 25, 2014 6:36 AM in response to norbertmuc
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    Oct 25, 2014 6:36 AM in response to norbertmuc
    iLifeAssetManagement

    Yes, the iLifeAssetManagement folder in applications support has been known to cause problems, i.e. when the photo stream is used.

    BTW When I had those issues, in the Aktivitätsanzeige there was a process "Digitale Bilder Erweiterung" that was taken up 500 MB of RAM. and com.apple. geod was not responding (red). now all these processes are gone.

    I am still being these processes. "geod was not responding (red)" in red, and "Digitale Bilder Erweiterung" - that is probably what I am seeing as "Image Capture Extension" with a noticeable  CPU time.  But Aperture and iPhoto are both very responsive by now, and I can  open the same library alternately in both.

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Oct 25, 2014 6:48 AM in response to drtaters78
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    Oct 25, 2014 6:48 AM in response to drtaters78
    I was able to import photos to the external drive Aperture file that Aperture created on it's own within my referenced file. Which I believe is the file Aperture goes to when I tired to open my "Photos" file (which hadbeen my program launch file before this problem started)

    So a new library is working well on your external drive. Now we know, that neither Aperture nor the drive are causing this.

     

    You said, that you tried all repair /rebuild options. Is the last thing you tried, to repair the library in Aperture? This will usually set the version number for the library. If you since opened the library in iPhoto, run again an Aperture repair.

    Then try to rebuild the library by importing it into a new Aperture library. Importing needs plenty of free space. Is there enough free space on your external drive?

  • by norbertmuc,

    norbertmuc norbertmuc Oct 25, 2014 6:50 AM in response to léonie
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    Oct 25, 2014 6:50 AM in response to léonie

    Image capture Extension is the correct translation. I never used photostram (to my knowlege) , so that should not be the  problem.

    I think Apple has some work to do. Its nice if everything is "integrated", but sometimes there are unexpected problems.

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