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Q: System is running our of application memory after yosemite install

Using a high end Mac Book Pro LATE 2013. 16GB ram. No programs running except MAIL. Just updated to YOSEMITE and getting the error "Your system has run out of application memory". This make no sense, I've rebooted several times, opened mail and getting the same error message. NO OTHER PROGRAMS ARE RUNNING.

MacBook Pro (15-inch 2.4/2.2 GHz), OS X Yosemite (10.10), 16 GB ram

Posted on Oct 20, 2014 4:48 PM

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  • by mdsalemi,

    mdsalemi mdsalemi Oct 31, 2014 8:46 AM in response to joetester
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    Oct 31, 2014 8:46 AM in response to joetester

    Well, I'm pretty disappointed. I can't live with this extremely "Microsoft Windows-like" behavior. In the past few years, the ONLY things that ever crashed were versions of MS Office (not surprisingly) or on more rare occasions, some Adobe Products like Photoshop, etc. When they crashed, they seemingly restarted with nothing lost. They were ONLY app crashes and didn't take down the OS. Lion 10.7.5 was as steady as the Rock of Gibraltar.

     

    THIS mail issue takes down the computer and the OS. Forced restarts don't work. Accessing the Apple menu doesn't work, so you can't even get to the restart or turn off. All you get is the colorful pinwheel circling around. These suggestions that people are making (reinstall OS, PRAM, system controller) simply don't work, since they are not the problem. The only way to recover from one of these crashes is  holding the power button until it forced the power off. That's a very PC like, Windows like solution I thought I gave up.

     

    If I discovered this issue in a matter of days after upgrading to Yosemite, why on earth didn't Apple or any of the beta or pre-release testers? The more I search the more I realize how prevalent this problem is. I'm truly dumbfounded now as how this thing was given the go on release. Jobs would have had someones head on this one, maybe more. What's today's news about Apple? Tim Cook is gay. Who cares!

     

    I am going to downgrade back to Lion today as I cannot live with my computer crashing every time I start mail and run it for a few minutes. When Apple gets its *&^% together on this one I might be back to Yosemite 2.0, but Steve Jobs must be rolling in his grave. Giving up Yosemite means giving up the nice iCloud drive I was using and I'll be forced to go back to Google drive too.

     

    *sigh* and *ugh* indeed!

  • by pointpeninsula,

    pointpeninsula pointpeninsula Nov 1, 2014 5:56 AM in response to mdsalemi
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    Nov 1, 2014 5:56 AM in response to mdsalemi

    I'm at least encouraged that:

     

    1) The culprit seems to be identified (mail)

    2) It's widespread.

     

    I'm confident that Apple will quietly push out an update to address the problem. It took them a few years to figure out how to access SMB shares on a NAS without ever admitting that they had a problem, but it finally started working (around Lion-time, I think).

     

    Anyway, one solution to the problem, at least temporarily - webmail!

     

    Tom

  • by mdsalemi,

    mdsalemi mdsalemi Nov 1, 2014 6:11 AM in response to pointpeninsula
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    Nov 1, 2014 6:11 AM in response to pointpeninsula

    Well, I hauled my 45 pound MacPro into the Apple Store yesterday...

    What they told me there was that it appears as if the problem is related to those using GoDaddy mail; NOT GoDaddy's mail using Office365 (the only mail service you can buy now from GoDaddy) but rather GoDaddy's hosted servers, which are imap.secureserver.net and smtpout.secureserver.net. Apparently the culprit might (I have yet to let it run for days) be the checkbox under mail preferences-->accounts-->mailbox behaviors-->drafts. You need to uncheck (i.e. do not) the box about "store drafts on server".

     

    As explained to me by the Genius (that's what they call them there!) helping me, there needs to be some kind of handshake on this that either the GoDaddy servers aren't doing, or Apple Mail isn't processing properly or both causing a "memory leak" which results in the "out of application memory" error message.

    So we unchecked the box on just the GoDaddy server email accounts and we'll see what happens over the next week.

     

    This also might explain my OTHER issue which drove me to Apple Mail in the first place: when I set up my email accounts on Microsoft Outlook (Office 2011 for Mac) for these GoDaddy servers, they worked fine for 20 minutes. Then, they lost the connection to the IMAP server and the only way to get them back was to delete the IMAP mail account on Outlook, and re-install it. That of course, was only good for 20 minutes until THAT lost the connection.

     

    I'm not a fan of GoDaddy and sorry I ever signed up with them and seriously considering moving my domain and mail to someone else.

  • by pointpeninsula,

    pointpeninsula pointpeninsula Nov 1, 2014 6:22 AM in response to mdsalemi
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    Nov 1, 2014 6:22 AM in response to mdsalemi

    Thanks for the report, mdsalemi.

     

    I too am using GoDaddy's email, and after reading your post, I launched mail just long enough to examine the status of the checkbox you referred, and in my case it was NOT checked.

     

    (I agree with you about the MS Outlook difficulties. I never imagined that it was GoDaddy's limitations or problem, since it's worked fine with other mail clients.)

     

    Tom

  • by DeeDubb11,

    DeeDubb11 DeeDubb11 Nov 3, 2014 5:21 PM in response to pointpeninsula
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    Nov 3, 2014 5:21 PM in response to pointpeninsula

    Thanks for all of the trouble-shooting suggestions.

     

    I've been dealing with the "running out of application memory" since updating to Yosemite and was hoping Apple would've patched it by now. No luck, it seems.

     

    My MacBook Pro (2.3 GHz, 16 GB RAM) and has had no problems until I updated to Yosemite. I even waited several days to update to Yosemite after the release to let them fix the initial bugs. Unfortunately, my prudence wasn't rewarded...

     

    I'll play around with some of the tips mentioned in this thread. Thanks so much for the insightful posts.

     

    Hoping Apple fixes this ASAP. Productivity is suffering.

     

    Cheers.

  • by mdsalemi,

    mdsalemi mdsalemi Nov 3, 2014 5:33 PM in response to DeeDubb11
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    Nov 3, 2014 5:33 PM in response to DeeDubb11

    Well, if you are near an Apple store they will indeed revert your machine back to Mavericks or earlier at no charge. I would not suffer with this too long if I were you. In my case the situation stabilized today, but I seem to get a lot of issues where I'm force-closing applications, something that rarely happened.

     

    Apparently Yosemite was released before its time.

  • by pointpeninsula,

    pointpeninsula pointpeninsula Nov 3, 2014 5:57 PM in response to mdsalemi
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    Nov 3, 2014 5:57 PM in response to mdsalemi

    The MBPS is running okay using webmail.  In my case it points the blame at Mac mail. Hopefully they'll fix it soon.

     

  • by DallasTexasAggie,

    DallasTexasAggie DallasTexasAggie Nov 4, 2014 3:47 AM in response to joetester
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    Nov 4, 2014 3:47 AM in response to joetester

    I'm running the new Mac Pro 6,1 (Late 2013) with 2.7GHz 12-Core Intel Xeon E5 processor withe 64 GB Memory and I'm having the same trouble. 

     

    Installed Yosemite late yesterday afternoon.  The problem started this morning as I started to work on a mail message.

     

    I've tried the PRAM, disk repair, and also changed my Go Daddy mail SSL back to 993 (happened to me too).  Still crashing.  I'm keeping the Activity Monitor up and when Mail starts to go past 2GM of memory, I shut the program down.  I'm only opening mail when I have to send or check messages.

     

    I'm also noticing a lot more hiccups as I work...like the machine is trying to catch up.  Was in mid sentence in Word and the color wheel started spinning. 

     

    I'm working in Final Cut today and praying that the problems don't continue with all other programs turned off.  Will post with my experience.  Hopefully the Apple guys are reading this message string, but the lack of involvement by Apple officials in this forum is troubling.

  • by joshua2287,

    joshua2287 joshua2287 Nov 4, 2014 6:58 AM in response to DallasTexasAggie
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    Nov 4, 2014 6:58 AM in response to DallasTexasAggie

    Early 2011 Macbook Pro 13"

    i5 2.3 GHz

    8 GB RAM

    SSD 250 GB 840 EVO

    Mavericks (10.9.5)

     

    I updated my system 2 days after Yosemite came available. I noticed my system was being bombarded by something that caused my music DAWs to lag, which I never had this issue with Mavericks. I keep my system extremely clean, no saved documents, pictures, music, or videos. I only have programs alone and use a 2TB drive as external to save work or any media sorts. I KNOW my system in and out. 250 GB capacity and I only used 20 GB thats including the OS X. So get a picture I'm painting here. The system shouldn't be running high 2-3 GB of RAM out of my 8 GB when Idle and when apps are being processed and used it's even more lagged.

     

    I reinstalled Mavericks and all is good, order in the universe is restored. Yosemite is too glitchy and buggy for my taste for now. 

  • by tenibuster,

    tenibuster tenibuster Nov 4, 2014 6:05 PM in response to joetester
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    Nov 4, 2014 6:05 PM in response to joetester

    Updates are usually tolerable but this one really hits hard where the workflow is most important. 

     

    OS X Yosemite

    Mac mini (Mid 2011)

    2.5 GHz Intel Core i5

    16 GB 1333 MHz DDR3

    Multiple Email Accounts including multiple GoDaddy IMAP accounts.

     

    Happens only after Yosemite Update

    Tried removing drafts from the server.

    Tried PRAM reset too.

     

    Still Crashes and Crashes Hard.

  • by 7411myrtle,

    7411myrtle 7411myrtle Nov 6, 2014 1:55 PM in response to joetester
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    Nov 6, 2014 1:55 PM in response to joetester

    Have spent the past four days with support for this exact problem on my Macbook Air (2013). Same thing...no problems until the Yosemite installation. We did everything up and through a clean install. The conclusion, as of today, is that Apple is investigating the problem and we'll have to wait until the update that fixes it. It is considered a 'known problem' at this point. I guess rebooting my computer every hour is the new normal until it's fixed.

  • by mdsalemi,

    mdsalemi mdsalemi Nov 7, 2014 4:59 AM in response to joetester
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    Nov 7, 2014 4:59 AM in response to joetester

    There are two things I will do--unfortunately I can't do them immediately but have to ease into them.

     

    1. Roll back to Mavericks. Yes, Mavericks was fine, and there was enough 3rd party subs for iCloud drive that I don't need the Yosemite headaches. Unfortunately, Apple doesn't make it an easy process. Yes, there are a variety of posted work arounds all revolving around something you had to do BEFORE you did the upgrade. I have new-to-me machines so I didn't have these Mavericks back up plans in place. So, off to the Apple Store and let them do it. If enough people flood the stores with these service requests this might elevate the issue.

     

    2. STOP using GoDaddy servers for email. GoDaddy told me they are not likely to do anything here, since there servers are now relatively unsupported. They are trying to move everyone to Office365 for mail, and abandon their own. They are a somewhat questionable outfit and I kick myself for jumping into bed with them. As soon as I can find a reliable IMAP mail service with real support I'm moving the domain over.

     

    These two will hopefully solve the issue. I can live without Yosemite for some time. Mavericks was fine.

  • by OleJohan,

    OleJohan OleJohan Nov 7, 2014 5:14 AM in response to joetester
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    Nov 7, 2014 5:14 AM in response to joetester

    It seems like all posts here is pointing at the "mail", well, I am not using mail at all on my Mac 27", 2013 16 GB, but I have same problem while using Final Cut Pro X 10.1.2 (and 10.1.3 (updatetd yesterday)
    After updating to Yosemite, my Mac slowed down dramaticly, then started showing "running our of application memory".

  • by mdsalemi,

    mdsalemi mdsalemi Nov 7, 2014 5:22 AM in response to OleJohan
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    Nov 7, 2014 5:22 AM in response to OleJohan

    There's surely more than one problem here. Mail using GoDaddy servers is a big one.

    One other issue I had was slow shutdown times. Shutdown before Yosemite was seconds. Under the Yosemite upgrade, a power-off shutdown turned into 5 minutes. Turned out that some programs having to do with Parallels were causing the issue. They were fine with Mavericks and earlier, but under Yosemite the same programs residing in the same place caused problems.

     

    Yosemite seems to have some invasive, PC-like issues...if you have to go searching for somewhat hidden files, and anything with the words "startup daemon" in it,  to try and solve a problem, you are venturing out of Mac-land and into the world of PC nonsense. That's why I'm rolling back as soon as I can...

  • by MAC_NOLA,

    MAC_NOLA MAC_NOLA Nov 7, 2014 8:40 AM in response to mdsalemi
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    Nov 7, 2014 8:40 AM in response to mdsalemi

    I switched one of my godaddy imap accounts over to microsoft exchange online and although it fixed some speed issues I was having a few times a day with godaddy's old servers it has also introduced a myriad of new problems in mac mail that I suppose I'll find or start another discussion for.  Mail was a problem in Mavericks and it is far worse on Yosemite.  Haven't had the memory leak cause a restart in over a week since unchecking store drafts and junk on the server for my godaddy imap though.  I do now see it run my memory up to 20-30% which with 48 GB is around 12 gigs just for mail...

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