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Oct 28, 2014 11:45 AM in response to NeoNirvanaby IBRA_LBY,Thank you again !
However, I wondered is it necessary to Mirror my SSD. I mean as I understand the Mirror term, it means just is away to make copy of your hard drive. but copy it on the same drive or External one I don't really know. However, I backed up my whole data in external drive using Time machine. could you clarify to me what's HD Mirror and why do we need to use it?
Thank you!
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Oct 28, 2014 12:07 PM in response to Master26Aby bigstick,For me, on my 2013 MacBook Air (core i7, 8Gb, 256GB) initially Yosemite was awful. It was sluggish and the wifi performance was truly terrible.
I read this entire thread, turned the translucency off, reset the PRAM, and now it's working much better. It's still a little soon to tell how well it's working, but initially it was terrible.
My wifi has improved after disabling Handoff and Bluetooth, but I'm not convinced it's as fast as Mavericks was, but that's subjective.
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Oct 30, 2014 9:46 AM in response to Master26Aby Nanchatte Technojunkie,Anecdotal evidence here...
I have installed Mavericks on
3.4 i7 27" iMac w/ 32GB RAM 256 SSD
2.4 C2D 24" iMac w/ 4GB RAM 128 SSD
i7 3GH(?) 17" 2011 MBP w/ 8GB RAM 512 SSD
2.4GH Mac Mini with 8GB RAM. 256SSD
*** NOTE, NO LEGACY HDDs WERE TESTED ***
General comments:
BAD NEWS:
SHOW STOPPER (For me)
PARALLELS 9 and 10 BLOW GOATS ON ALL MODELS.
Especially P9, which is unusable... with both XP and W8.1 on all my machines.
P10 is usable on the 8GB+ models but is still A LOT SLOWER than 9.
Also CPU usage is about 50~75% PER CORE employed in your VM.
Battery life of MBP using P10 is about half of what I remember getting before.
Workaround: Allocate 25% more time for windows work ;-) 100% more for P9
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Spotlight, my arse, more like Stoplight!!!
Worst Spotlight since Tiger... Holy Cow did they manage to mess up one of OS X's most brilliantly usable features...
For example, I have an encrypted sparsebundle called "Cool Stuff.sparsebundle"
Can spotlight find it? Can it ****. This feature alone makes me regret my move to Yosemite.
WHAT THE SERIOUS ****?
OK.. I'm calm now
Really, it's worse than Windows 8.1s pathetically laughable "Modern" document search...
I actually have to go to the command line to find files by name now...
Oh, of course, tags work a charm... O_o... yeah... right?
Sluggish graphics.
All machines suffer from sluggish graphics and scrolling: Mavericks silky smooth vsync limited scrolling in Safari and desktop window animations are all a lot rougher...
Remove transparancy to return *some* of the performance.
Safari stalls if any sites have big pictures.
Menu bar
MENU BAR performance is now FU-BAR performance.
You can actually see each individual icon redraw, especially multi monitor.
If, like me, you use multilingual interfaces with compositional input (CJK) you will find the menubar flashes on practically every key press and the input will not keep up with even my mediocre touch typing.
Crashes abound.
Safari, finder and mail crash more than before... but this is just typical X.0 release stuff. no show stoppers here.
GOOD NEWS:
FINALLY, there is some consistency in the interface. The good work of mavericks has continued: Less clutter and randomness... UI controls are much neater and tidier and consistent.
The "flat" interface style has removed lustre and "bling" yet, which clearly shows it's superiority over W8.x has not returned us to Windows 3.1 and robbed the desktop of a sense of depth. OK, I love the gentle new UI, I'll admit it.
If you have poor eyesight, beware though, since black and white no longer exist: Every UI element feels like a varying shade of grey! You might find the accessibility High Contrast mode useful as this subjective improvement comes the expense of somewhat reduced contrast and added, superfluous transparency.
Apple applications (except Safari/iTunes) improvements:
Finder, Mail, Notifications etc. All feel lighter and more responsive.
The desktop, especially feels faster, as does light application use. I would confidently say that in my experience LOW RAM (8GB or less) performance has actually increased re Mavericks... The 4GB machine definitely manages memory better.
As for me? I am a sucker for new OS releases, but if you have critical tasks that MUST get done, the I recommend waiting for the .2 release, as usual.
My affair with Yosemite is a patchy one, but still, it's a better love story than Twilight.
Cheers!
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Oct 30, 2014 9:39 AM in response to jetoff41by Alfonso,Is it possible that your friends opted for an upgrade instead of a clean install?
Upgrades always give me grief.
Regards
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by Barney-15E,Oct 30, 2014 6:22 PM in response to Nanchatte Technojunkie
Barney-15E
Oct 30, 2014 6:22 PM
in response to Nanchatte Technojunkie
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Mac OS XOddly enough,
I only have a 2012 Mini with 16GB of RAM, but,
I can search a mounted, encrypted Sparse Bundle Disk Image as I would expect.
Virtual Box seems ok. I don’t have a VM that I pay for.
Spotlight hasn’t been a problem. I like it popping up in the middle of the display as that is where I am looking.
I haven’t seen a problem creating, searching, deleting tags. What is your specific problem? Could be related to your Spotlight problems as Yosemite is pretty much all Spotlight all the time.
Graphics are fine. Two medium-level Samsung monitors. No artifacts, no flashing, no sluggishness.
No problems with menu bar, on either screen, but I don’t have multiple languages. I do have multiple input sources, but they are all US/Unicode keyboard layouts.
No crashe besides the beta versions of xCode.
I don’t have any non-“legacy” hard drives, but apparently that’s an improvement over the advanced hard drives you own.
What else do you have installed besides Parallels which appears to be incompatible?
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Oct 30, 2014 7:03 PM in response to Barney-15Eby Nanchatte Technojunkie,@barney... Thank you for the reply. No, I meant it cannot locate the sparsebundle file itself. Once the sparsebundle is mounted, it is indexed just like any other drive.
>>I can search a mounted, encrypted Sparse Bundle Disk Image as I would expect.
So can I.
Actually I have a range of encrypted sparsebundles stored on an external usb drive. In mavericks and older, I would type the first few letters of the sparsebundle's filename and it would appear a little way down the candidate list...
Now, it seems to list emails and other data files and only one or two of the files appear.
I ran sudo md -E, but alas... no change.
>>I haven’t seen a problem creating, searching, deleting tags. What is your specific problem? Could be related to your Spotlight problems
Like I said, Oh, of course, tags work a charm... By that I meant it's funny that tags work but core metadata search doesn't.
But then, it's still a .0 release, so...
>>Virtual Box seems ok. I don’t have a VM that I pay for.
You are the wise one... Fool me once Parallels, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
>>but I don’t have multiple languages.
Yes, it seem to be a problem with the multibyte character composer... typing words in causes the bar to flash.
>>I don’t have any non-“legacy” hard drives, but apparently that’s an improvement over the advanced hard drives you own.
Could you explain your point here? As far as I see it, I can only sense sarcasm...
My SSD drives are all different brands, including one Apple one. I'm sure they have little to do with the problems.
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by Barney-15E,Oct 30, 2014 7:58 PM in response to Nanchatte Technojunkie
Barney-15E
Oct 30, 2014 7:58 PM
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Level 8 (49,742 points)
Mac OS XNanchatte Technojunkie wrote:
Actually I have a range of encrypted sparsebundles stored on an external usb drive. In mavericks and older, I would type the first few letters of the sparsebundle's filename and it would appear a little way down the candidate list...
Now, it seems to list emails and other data files and only one or two of the files appear.
That makes no sense to me. If I encrypt something, I wouldn't want anyone to be able to search it, including me, while it was encrypted. Seems to defeat the purpose of encryption.
What is 'md'? Is that a typo? I'm only familiar with mdutil -E.
It was sarcasm.
I don't remember any of your issues reported during beta testing, but that may because issues about parallels and SSD's didn't interest me.
I think every release since the introduction of Spotlight is plagued by problems with Spotlight, as with WiFi. Reindexing works for some, others require the brute force erase. Still, others seem unsolvable--could be tied to problems in the indexing process that results in corrupt indexes.
Seems every WiFi fix results in a different group having WiFi issues.
Many of us have few if any problems with any update or upgrade. I don't install anything that monitors, cleans, optimizes, protects, customizes, or otherwise modifies the system. Certain programs need to "hack" the system (such as VM). They may be a necessary evil. However, any program that does that I completely expect to fail on any update, and may destabilize the OS. Some developers are quite good at updating prior to the OS release. Others are utter failures.
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Oct 31, 2014 7:04 PM in response to Master26Aby IA64,Ummm I don't wanna ruin the fun here but my Yosemite upgrade went fine, I can definitely say it's faster than Mavericks.
Boot time from chime to login screen around 6.5 seconds. Shutdown in less than 3 seconds. Everything pops up instantaneously once opened and I have no graphic glitches whatsoever.
I had Mavericks pre-installed and the machine was running fine since months. Did upgrade to 10.10 and all is good. Disk Utility glitch is now gone and my iMac never felt faster.
Specs : iMac 14,2
Corei7 3.5GHz
32GB RAM
512GB PCIe SSD
GTX780M
New font is great. UI flat look and changes don't appeal to me at all...
I have yet to know what you all are talking about. Seriously it's not a Windows PC... why that much of mixed feedbacks ?
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Nov 1, 2014 6:10 AM in response to IA64by Darklykoz,Mine works 100% to and I prefer look/feel and everything else to Mavericks... I am personally very happy with Yosemite.
Fact is this is a support forum... So you will find people with negative experiences more likely to post, in order to find solutions to their problems, or they may have subjective personal issues about yosemite they dont like. Its there right to express it somewhere And this is the place to do it.
Also you need to remember even though hardware/software experience may be more standaridised than the windows PC Market...
When you upgrade Windows, you start with a clean install, and then re-install 3rd party applications.
On a Mac all your 3rd party apps are conveniently carried through to new Operating system.
This convinience however can lead to unforseen eventualities and non-standardisation that often may lead to user problems and complaints..
You cant always have the best of all worlds.
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Nov 1, 2014 6:21 AM in response to Darklykozby tbirdvet,No issues but I find the font on gray background much harder to read than the white on black background. Like when clicking on the documents folder in the dock the names of the files are not as easy to read. I tried adjusting things but did not help much. The rest of the OS is fine.
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Nov 1, 2014 11:46 PM in response to Darklykozby scott784,I could not agree more in that upgrades can sometimes lead to unforeseen circumstances. MS Windows has a well known history of this fact! And it was for this very reason, that I always did a clean install on a PC when I put a new version of windows on a PC. Now with Apple, I think there is much more of the perception that it's just supposed to always work (upgrading versus clean install). But the fact is, I am one of those people (fairly new to Mac) who had problems upgrading MBP13 (late 2013 edition) from Mavericks to Yosemite. I must confess I was one of the guilty ones who upgraded on day one when Yosemite was released to the general public a couple of weeks ago. And I had continual problems with Wi-FI while all other devices in my home were working fine. I did a clean install of Yosemite; and all seems fine now.
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Nov 2, 2014 12:06 AM in response to scott784by scott784,As others have said (repeatedly) on this forum, everyone should always backup using Time Machine first. In my case, I erased the hard drive before installing Yosemite. Once I had Yosemite up and running as a new/clean install, I used Time Machine to migrate over personal data only. Time Machine gave the options of migrating three things 1) applications/programs 2) documents/data 3) network settings. In my particular case, I manually reinstalled the programs I wanted after getting Yosemite running. And since I didn't want any network settings carried over (with previous wi-fi problems), I only allowed Time Machine to migrate documents/personal data over to my new install of Yosemite. This entire process is much more time consuming versus a simple upgrade, but it can sometimes resolve issues.
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Nov 2, 2014 1:51 AM in response to scott784by Csound1,scott784 wrote:
I could not agree more in that upgrades can sometimes lead to unforeseen circumstances.
Very true, and almost invariably because of bad preparation. If time is taken to prepare my experience is that the upgrade is always fine.
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Nov 2, 2014 1:09 AM in response to Csound1by Darklykoz,Bad experiences upgrading aside...
It sure beats the windows experience having to reconfigure and re-install each individual program...
Apple also does a good job of isolating non-responsive or incompatible 3rd party apps so you can put your finger on the problem and resolve most issues.
They even provide easy ways for you to backup the system.
Upgrading OSX is much less stressful and time consuming that windows in my opinion.
I need to set aside a couple of hours or even days to upgrade windows....
I need a couple of minutes to upgrade OSX...
Big difference for me.
The unforeseen circumstances are more rare than a given on most users. A clean install in my opinion is just not worth the time and headache on OSX or Windows unless you have very significant problems... I mean its always an option should things go terrible wrong... But its not a first solution for me ever...
And I would much rather have to deal and troubleshoot one or two broken apps, rather than install everything from scratch from various websites-CD's and who knows from where else... Its a complete nightmare finding everything, and getting my system back to where it was...
As I am new to apple... I will say some of you guys have forgotten the windows experience and how well you have it this side
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Nov 2, 2014 1:20 AM in response to Darklykozby Csound1,The most common cause is 3rd party utilities (especially background processes) that were never checked for compatibility before upgrading OSX. Hardly anyone even knows what junk they have running, and I have never met a Mac that did not have any.
Look prior to leaping, not the other way around.