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Nov 2, 2014 3:20 PM in response to Zanaelfby MortenJamesCarlsen,Actually, the candy-icons of pre-yosemite were fashion. The ones inYosemite are, well, flat and have little fashion to them. They are a lot less flashy and intrusive than the older versions.
But if you don't like the new design and can't work with it, just stick with Mavericks. Perhaps in 20 years Apple will resort to augmented reality and then you can upgrade your Mavericks Veteran Ware ;-)
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Nov 2, 2014 3:32 PM in response to MortenJamesCarlsenby Sancheub,Ohhh you're right...!!!
I'll do that. It sounds perfectly.Thank you...!!
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Nov 2, 2014 3:58 PM in response to Zanaelfby Darklykoz,Lets be honest man... Its pretty much the same thing... Look and feel is a little different but mostly more of the same...
If you are complaining about unfamiliarity I wonder what the Windows 8 from Windows 7 are saying...
Sometimes we dont realise how good we have it.
A few changes are always welcome and refreshing. The basic User Experience is exactly the same...
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Nov 11, 2014 6:25 AM in response to Master26Aby dnyo,Running Yosemite for a few weeks now. Retina begining 2013.
Battery life *****, wont last 4 hours, some times 3.
Graphic performance is crap. Safari kicks in the fan with 6 tabs open. - wow.
Wifi is full of bugs, not functioning right, i run other macs so i can pretty much compare performance on different aspects.
Photoshop became slower. Zooming in is the 1st thing you notice.
To preview a photo using finder hiting the spacebar is 3x slower than Mavericks.
I have issues connecting my audio interfaces.
Some apps just bounce them selves in the dock till i have to force-quit them.
I got low memory pressure as you can see, im running safari with 3 tabs opened, and activity monitor, thats it. Memory being used is ridiculous, and the fan has been on for some time now.
My install is clean, i don't do upgrades. Other small bugs and annoyances could be sorted after a dev update pretty soon but thats not the case here.
I'm curious if my install was crap, and wow, thats just an awful thing to find out, because you take your time with these things, backing up, installing all your apps again, organizing etc. If my 1st ever install of Yosemite was crap, then.. ***? What so people are not supposed to install an OS twice, 3 times just to make sure it works 100%? To me that sounds like someone didn't do their job right. Think about it, it makes no sense.
I will not do another fresh install, i don't have the time to play around with these things, never have i had an issue with an OS from Apple before, this is disappointing.
I hate when there's a group of people who call them selves "innovators" but crate something that looks new, but drives like a beetle.
Its weird to me when a company decides to release something that looks so good and works crap in the "not so late" macs. The whole idea of putting this new OS in the market is that it should work faster and much more reliable then the former releases.
I can't get around 3 hours on battery on a text editor. I've done my searching, i have absolutely no issues with my mac.
Anyone think i should do anything different, please feel free to reply, but i feel like Running back to Mavericks in a few hours.
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Nov 11, 2014 6:45 AM in response to dnyoby MortenJamesCarlsen,I use Protools 11, Logic X, FCPx, All Adobe Software (Mostly Video and Photo Apps) Hardware Audio Interfaces. All latest versions. And 10.10
They all run faster than on Mavericks and any other prior for that matter... Aside from Photoshop which runs at similar speeds.
Photoshop has the past 5 years degraded immensely in speed and intuition. But that is not to blame on Apple. Photoshop is still a great app which could use some rewrite though. App like PPRO and Speedgrade are running faster than ever on 10.10 - For me, at least. So your experience is thankfully not the norm ;-)
I have reported the Finder Bug which exist when previewing (especially RAW) images on disk and again especially when using quicklook. So that is known.
I only have issues with Fans when in Safari when using Flash. But those were there on Mav and Snow Leopard as well. Again, an Adobe thing.
Flash is dead. And no one wants to do more than whats absolutely necessary to keep it able to play the 'old' web. So don't get your hopes up high concerning flash.
There is an issue with the Retina Macs which has nothing to do with Operating System. My 2012 rMBP ran so great for about a year. After that I would have nothing but slowdowns along side with weird issues with Audio and Video dropping frames where they had never done it before. I was on and off with support teams but no one could figure it out... I then took it to the Apple Store and explained the issues to a REAL genius. He said, 'it probably needs cleaning'... he asked me to come back in 3 hours. Which I did. All the issues were gone... I was jaw-dropped. The genius took out a paper tissue and which had about (felt) a pound of dust and particles. The said, that was residing in the inners of the MBP, main board and mostly fans... Sucked in by latter.
He told me that to avoid such issues, I should bring it in every 6 months or do it myself and pointed out that I could have issues with warranty if still under... But since mine was out of, it would not play a part. Lift the back cover after unscrewing screws. Take the fans out or clean them with DRY air or a Q-Tipp. You will be amazed with the amount of dirt being collecting in those fans..
Anyway, that could be your issue...
My Symptoms were:
Fans beginning to spin loudly after 10 minutes of heavy duty. Resulting in a computer that would totally lame down and not be able to playback video or audio without frame drops...
IHTH
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Nov 11, 2014 7:44 AM in response to MortenJamesCarlsenby dnyo,Cleaning should be something i will try before i make any decisions. You just reminded me of an issue i had with a few notebooks in the past, cleaning did a lot for me back then.
Great idea. I will update here as i go.
Cheers!
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Nov 11, 2014 7:57 AM in response to dnyoby MortenJamesCarlsen,dnyo wrote:
Cleaning should be something i will try before i make any decisions. You just reminded me of an issue i had with a few notebooks in the past, cleaning did a lot for me back then.
Great idea. I will update here as i go.
Cheers!
In fact, your first post, reminded me that cleaning is a very important part of performance-maintenance which I forget far too often and blame on system instead. Thank God for OS X Reminder ;-)
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Nov 11, 2014 7:55 PM in response to MortenJamesCarlsenby Zanaelf,MortenJamesCarlsen wrote:
In fact, your first post, reminded me that cleaning is a very important part of performance-maintenance which I forget far too often and blame on system instead. Thank God for OS X Reminder ;-)
Apple created OSX Reminder, god does not exist...
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Nov 12, 2014 5:19 AM in response to Csound1by phl0w,Hi there, Csound1,
you wrote about an MBP 2009 being more responsive under 10.10 than 10.9. I am pondering over installing Yosemite instead of Mavericks on my MacBook pro 2009 (5,5). I installed 8GB 1067 RAM myself, and would like to know if it's worth upgrading to 10.10.0 now. I only use my portable Mac for browsing, mailing, and pages/numbers, i.e. so called office applications. From time to time I post process raw files in LR5, but that's only when I really have to, usually I use my desktop machine for photo editing. I don't really care about the new look or new features, I just want my MBP to perform snappy. Mavericks was a huge upgrade over Lion in that regard, but I am under the impression that it cannot beat Snow Leo. Is Yosemite "snappier" than Mavericks when it comes to simple office tasks?
If so, do you recommend a Clean Install over an Upgrade? I very much would prefer the quicker latter option. Also, I read about problems during installation when one changed memory to aftermarket RAM. Is that only true for 1333 memory or also for 1066/7?. What is your take on it? Last question: Does my MBP 2009 5,5 support 16GB RAM? Apple says it doesn't but others say it does.
Thank you for your time.
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Nov 12, 2014 5:22 AM in response to phl0wby Csound1,One of the Macs I use (regularly) is a 2009 2.53Ghz MBP. 8GB of Ram and a hybrid drive. It was fast with every OS that has been installed on it (started at leopard) but it is fastest with Yosemite (only Lion was significantly slower).
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Nov 12, 2014 5:28 AM in response to Csound1by phl0w,That is the same model as mine (although I think mine shipped with SL), thank you for your reassuring answer. Do you recommend a clean install over an upgrade? I read nowadays it's just a matter of opinion.
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Nov 12, 2014 5:38 AM in response to phl0wby Csound1,I have done it both ways with excellent results, but ....
If you do an upgrade then take the time to verify the compatibility of all the 3rd party utilities/drivers etc before upgrading. I keep all that stuff far away from my Macs (personal & office) and rarely have any upgrade issues.
I refer to antivirus/cleaners/optimizers/space recovery and UI enhancement types of software, but not exclusively.
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Nov 12, 2014 5:47 AM in response to Csound1by phl0w,I know my way around UNIX a little bit, and let the built-in maintenance routines do their job. In short, there is no 3rd party software whatsoever on my machine (except for Adobe Lightroom). While we speak, I have Disk Utility verify, and repair permissions, and I'm planning on doing a PRAM, and SMC reset before starting the upgrade.
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Nov 12, 2014 6:13 AM in response to Master26Aby Rescue_2003,Yosemite appears to be really slow. I hope that this is not a permanent "feature", but instead a temporary problem because it is so new. I can't wait for an upgrade. The graphic look and feel is great, but I have issues with the extremely slow Finder.
It should not take 10-30 seconds to update a Finder window. Using a FAT formatted USB drive seems to really choke Finder down to a snail's pace. File copying takes an extraordinarily long time, as does ejecting the USB drive (minutes!). It takes so long that I see the "disk failed to eject" message repeatedly when ejecting a USB. It seems that having any Finder window showing any of the USB's contents will prevent Finder from ejecting it. A fix is needed for all of the slow issues. It should not matter if I am using relatively old Apple hardware; I have a MBPro 15" Mid 2010 model.
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Nov 12, 2014 3:51 PM in response to Rescue_2003by Barney-15E,It should not matter if I am using relatively old Apple hardware; I have a MBPro 15" Mid 2010 model.
I don’t think it does matter. It is probably do to some incompatible software you have installed, or a corrupted install.
But, give the crappy quality control on that particular Mac, it could be the hardware.
