Q: Pages 5.0 and Endnote (Cite While You Write)

I have confirmed that EndNote CWYW citations do not come through to Pages 5.2 properly formatted.  EndNote support say this is a  problem with Pages 5.2, not EndNote 7.

In what way to CWYW citations not format correctly in Pages 5.2?

I haven't seen any significant problems in formating across a variety of output styles. The exception being formats that include doi information, which appears to trigger anomalous paragraph breaks in the resulting reference list.

Accroding to Endnote.com, "EndNote X6 and later work correctly with the updated Pages 5.2. We strongly encourage all Mavericks users of Pages 5 to consider upgrading to 5.2 to use the enhanced functionality and integration of Pages and EndNote. EndNote users of Pages should let us know if they run into any issues using Pages 5.2 or later."

In some ways, including editing citations in the text and adding prefix and suffix information, Endnote compatibility appears to be BETTER in Pages 5.2 than it was in Pages 4.

This is the full reference which elicited immediately 2 responses with details of problems still:

http://community.thomsonreuters.com/t5/EndNote-General/Apple-Releases-Pages-5-2- Update/td-p/57442

I do not understand why you would want to lose all the features from Pages '09, almost a hundred still, to get poor compatibilty with EndNote which is still not fixed after almost 6 months.

Masochistic tendencies perhaps?

Peter

I was happily using Endnote icw Pages '09 as well, since my update to Pages 5 I'm missing (apart from the mentioned above) the possibility to manage citations in the bibliography. With a 50 pages paper, the bibliography needs to be managed!

Normally you could go there through Edit > Endnote Citations > Manage citations, but the whole button 'Manage' has dissapeared! Meaning I can only select the whole bibliography, with either the option to delete everything or don't alter anything. Does anybody else has this issue as well? I'm running Pages 5.2, installed the latest plugin and Endnote X7 so I have no idea on why the manager is missing..

Wander

It does seem to insert citations in the correct format now. BUT (a BIG BUT) it practically makes the document  so slow as to make it useless. I've tried this a bunch of different times and in different sized documents and each time, one citation in "cite-while-you-write" basically freezes Pages. So frustrated. One step forward, three steps back.

I was one of the early critics of Pages 5 and the problems it had with EndNote. Today, working with Pages 5, EndNote X7, and the plugin, I was basically able to make everything work to my satisfaction. It could be better, and I really wish that Apple would send a signal to academic users that they are determined to make Pages into a full and robust research tool. Still, I can see myself using it for my next project. Previously, I had abandoned all hope of using it.

I did not have the slowness problems antjek mentions, even with a moderately large file, and so I don't know where the problem may lie. I can only suggest that users try Pages with EndNote for themselves and see what happens. Meanwhile, I have got to finish my current project, so it's back to MS Word!

As a secondary note, I really hope MS will make some significant improvements in the next Word for Mac, which should be out this year.

The current plugin is unusable for MLA citation.  The plugin will not generate book and journal titles in italics in Pages 5.2 and titles can not be excluded in the same way that author and dates can be.

There should also be a way to refresh the works cited to retrieve and update entries based on changes in the Endnote database.

I'm facing a new problem with Endnote X7 and Pages 5.2.2, besides the fact that using Endnote makes Pages extremely slow.

I have been working in Word up till now because of group work and the people I was working with did not have Pages, but now i'm about to start my thesis and want to write it in Pages. However, my Endnote will only sync with Word and Pages keeps telling me that I have to open a citations library because it can't find any. How to solve this?!

Very important.

Do not under any circumstances use Pages '09!

Which would fix your problems.

Peter

Just to be clear Peter, you say don't use Pages '09 despite the fact that it would solve the problem I have with Endnote and Word?! So how can I solve this?!

I was being sarcastic.

It seems that nobody can simply do the sensible thing that simply works.

No matter how many times we repeat it.

"Doc what can I do to get rid of this racking cough?"

"Quit smoking."

"No seriously Doc, what can I do?"

Peter

Hello Barbara

Despite its drawbacks, I would suggest you work with Word on your thesis. EndNote works really well with Word, and you probably will want the thesis in a format that you can send to a publisher when you are done. I'd love to use Pages, but Apple has not made the current version useful for academic writing. And you don't really want to deal with Apple constantly nagging you about using an older version of Pages—one that EndNote may not maintain support for.

Just my thoughts.

Duane

EndNote works perfectly with Pages '09 and will continue to do so, which is more than can be said for Pages 5.2.2.

There are also several alternative citation software for Pages '09, most free.

Another alternative is to use LibreOffice [free] instead of Pages or Word.

Peter

I have a feeling that part of the problem is the fact that the Apple EndNote plugin doesn't seem to be updated for Yosemite just yet in addition with being buggy for Mavericks users.

And Pages 5.0 was certainly released prematurely. It was incomplete by a longshot... And Apple usually isn't one to do this!

PieMatey wrote:

 

It was incomplete by a longshot... And Apple usually isn't one to do this!

Not true! Apple has done this many times.

How many times does it need before people notice?

Peter