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Q: Sharing from Aperture to iCloud

Hi,

 

I recently enabled iCloud  in Aperture preferences and selected an image then clicked the iCloud icon on the toolbar. The image zips into the iCloud folder on the left as it's supposed to.

However, when I go to the iCloud icon in system preferences it shows 0% of 20 GB backed up and Aperture doesn't appear in the list of apps sharing to iCloud.

 

what am I doing wrong here?

 

Jon

iPad, Mac OS X (10.7.5), iPad air

Posted on Nov 21, 2014 9:43 AM

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  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Nov 21, 2014 9:53 AM in response to Rollins1
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    Nov 21, 2014 9:53 AM in response to Rollins1
    I recently enabled iCloud  in Aperture preferences and selected an image then clicked the iCloud icon on the toolbar.

    That will enable Photo Stream or/and Shared photo Streams in Aperture.

    However, when I go to the iCloud icon in system preferences it shows 0% of 20 GB backed up and Aperture doesn't appear in the list of apps sharing to iCloud.

    That list is for iCloud Documents (or iCloud Drive in Yosemite).

    In System Preferences Aperture is part of the "Photos" option. Click the "Options" button to the right of Photos.

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    Is your profile signature "Mac OS X (10.7.5)" still current, Jon, or have you upgraded to Yosemite?

     

    what am I doing wrong here?

    What are you expecting to happen and want to do? If you enable the Photo Streams (iCloud) in Aperture, any new photos streamed from other devices will automatically appear in your Aperture library. And Aperture's new photos will stream to other devices (unless you are running Yosemite and have enabled iCloud Photo Library (Beta) ).

  • by Rollins1,

    Rollins1 Rollins1 Nov 21, 2014 11:03 AM in response to léonie
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    Nov 21, 2014 11:03 AM in response to léonie

    Hi Leonie,

     

    Actually I must update the profile (it's 10.9.5 Mavericks now). I assumed that the images would backup to iCloud? I'm having trouble putting a screen shot in here, but the photos>options button on mine, brings up a box with two options My photo stream and photo sharing, it doesn't mention Aperture in there. I can't find the Aperture icon anywhere in the iCloud window.

     

    I'm actually finding some Aperture features a bit slower and "clunky" in Mavericks, so I'm sceptical about moving to Yosemite.

     

    Jon

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Nov 21, 2014 11:18 AM in response to Rollins1
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    Nov 21, 2014 11:18 AM in response to Rollins1
    I assumed that the images would backup to iCloud?

    No, iCloud in iPhoto and Aperture is not a backup or a photo library in iCloud. It is used for two purposes:

    1. My Photo Stream: It will stream new photo automatically to all devices, that have My Photo Stream enabled. MyPhoto Stream will upload new photos to iCloud, and store the last 1000 photos, maximally for a month. During this time other devices can import from iCloud and add the photos to their library, but after a month the photos will be replaced by the newer photos. See: iCloud: Photo Stream FAQ
    2. Shared Photo Streams:  These are albums, stored in iCloud, where you can invite friends or family to view the photos, see:   iCloud: iCloud Photo Sharing FAQ

     

    Next year, iCloud will have new possibilities on the Mac. It will use the same iCloud Photo Library, as now is possible on iPhone and iPad with iOS 8. ,  see:  iCloud Photo Library beta FAQ

    But this is not yet possible on a Mac. We have to wait for the "Photos.app" on a Mac.

  • by Rollins1,

    Rollins1 Rollins1 Nov 21, 2014 11:26 AM in response to léonie
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    Nov 21, 2014 11:26 AM in response to léonie

    Perhaps it's the phrase "backups" in the "manage storage" window that has confused me?

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Nov 21, 2014 12:08 PM in response to Rollins1
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    Nov 21, 2014 12:08 PM in response to Rollins1
    Perhaps it's the phrase "backups" in the "manage storage" window that has confused me?

    Probably. The "manage storage" window is also listing the iCloud storage used by mobile devices. Mobile devices can backup to iCloud. If you only had an iPhone, but no computer, you could not backup the data on your phone in any other way.

     

    For your Aperture Library are backups to external drives much more convenient than cloud backup. If you need to restore an Aperture library, it will be much easier if you do not depend on internet access, that may not be available. Restoring from disks will be much quicker,

    just be sure to have at least two backups stored in different locations.

  • by Rollins1,

    Rollins1 Rollins1 Nov 21, 2014 11:11 PM in response to léonie
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    Nov 21, 2014 11:11 PM in response to léonie

    I Have an external HD, can I back up entire projects or folders to the HD in one go, or do I have to do it image by image? Also with regard to disks, what type of disks do you recommend?

  • by léonie,Solvedanswer

    léonie léonie Nov 21, 2014 11:55 PM in response to Rollins1
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    Nov 21, 2014 11:55 PM in response to Rollins1

    can I back up entire projects or folders to the HD in one go, or do I have to do it image by image?

    With Aperture you will want to backup the complete Aperture library and not separate projects, because an Aperture Library  is essentially a relational database and everything is connected. Saving only the photos will make it impossible to restore your edits any work you do in Aperture.

    The easiest backup of your Aperture library is a full copy of your Aperture library on the external drive. You can drag the Aperture library over or use any software that will make incremental copies of the changes, so the second backup all be much faster. I use carbon Copy Cloner, Super duper would do the same. Aperture has a built-inincremental backup, the vaults. A vault is a backup of the library, that you can update, when the library changes and from which you can restore the library.

    Also with regard to disks, what type of disks do you recommend?

    Any directly connected external drive with a fast connection - Thunderbolt or USB 3. And formatted MacOS Extended (Journaled). See this link:  Use locally mounted Mac OS X Extended volumes for your Aperture library

  • by Rollins1,

    Rollins1 Rollins1 Nov 22, 2014 1:07 AM in response to léonie
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    Nov 22, 2014 1:07 AM in response to léonie

    I appreciate your help Leonie, I think I need to find a two pronged solution, one will be backing up to a HD as you say In case of the worst! For me Aperture and tools like it offer many possibilities but also can tempt the photographer to make endless edits and tweaks, leaving a huge bloated archive. To avoid this I will probably choose an online solution like Photoshelter, where I can save and store Tiffs of images that I feel are definitive.

     

    jon

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Nov 23, 2014 8:30 AM in response to Rollins1
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    Nov 23, 2014 8:30 AM in response to Rollins1
    To avoid this I will probably choose an online solution like Photoshelter, where I can save and store Tiffs of images that I feel are definitive.

    In addition to that, you could tag your most important photos with a keyword or five rating stars, and create smart album of them.

    Then export this smart album to folders using "File > Export".

    If you upgrade to Yosemite, this folder could be located on iCloud Drive, if you want cloud storage for these photos.

    See:  iCloud Drive FAQ

  • by Rollins1,

    Rollins1 Rollins1 Nov 23, 2014 1:43 PM in response to léonie
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    Nov 23, 2014 1:43 PM in response to léonie

    OK, now I'm confused.

     

    So in Finder what's the difference between dragging the "Aperture" lens icon into the external HD or the "Aperture Library" icon (stack of photos with a pink flower)?

     

    Well I dragged the pink flower icon over earlier and got prompted to upgrade something, got into a muddle and found this old version of Aperture, then thought I'd lost all my photos. There was a  box with a "tip" to hold down the option key as I opened Aperture, which I did, and got the box below, which I've never seen before.

     

     

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    The one highlighted is up to date with 1885 originals. Highlighting the one above that (saying current default), shows only 588 originals and it's on the Mac HD>Applications (see below)

     

     

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    When I highlight this and click "choose", it's just a load of old stuff, basically as my Aperture library looked about 2 years ago when I had the previous version of Aperture including things I thought I'd deleted. 

     

    Obviously I know what the Mac HD is, but what is the little house icon with my name after it in the first screen shot holding the 1885 originals?

     

    Do I have 2 libraries in different places?

     

    I'm sure this is basic stuff I should know, so sorry if these are daft questions!

     

    Jon

  • by Rollins1,

    Rollins1 Rollins1 Nov 24, 2014 2:22 AM in response to Rollins1
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    Nov 24, 2014 2:22 AM in response to Rollins1

    Ok, so the house is my home folder, I'm not sure why it's there rather than my hard drive. Also it's showing far more files than I appear to actually have in aperture. I think the Spring cleaning session I had a month ago did't delete the masters of The 100s of versions I deleted.