HansSchnier

Q: low-quality copy (to the clipboard) in Keynote and Pages

Hello,

 

I am running Keynote 6.5 under OS 10.10 on MacBook Air. Just after updating to Yosemite I have noticed that if I copy (command-c) something from Keynote (say, some text, or a graphic) and try to paste it outside (in Preview, or in Word) I get a low-quality image (bitmap rather than vector). It was not like this before. Also, I have verified that this problem is limited to Keynote and Pages; i.e., copying something out of (e.g.) Powerpoint works perfectly (vector image).

 

Anyone can help?

iWork, OS X Yosemite (10.10)

Posted on Oct 24, 2014 6:55 AM

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  • by HansSchnier,

    HansSchnier HansSchnier Oct 24, 2014 9:30 AM in response to HansSchnier
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    Oct 24, 2014 9:30 AM in response to HansSchnier

    Or at least, anyone observes the same behavior?

  • by Gary Scotland,

    Gary Scotland Gary Scotland Oct 25, 2014 8:10 AM in response to HansSchnier
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    Oct 25, 2014 8:10 AM in response to HansSchnier

    I do not have this issue but I know from other folks problems, this issue only happens on MacBooks.

    I don't have a remedy or know why this occurs.

     

    Happy to get your Keynote file and test how it exports on my system.

  • by HansSchnier,

    HansSchnier HansSchnier Oct 27, 2014 3:42 AM in response to Gary Scotland
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    Oct 27, 2014 3:42 AM in response to Gary Scotland

    Gary, thanks for your reply. However, no need to send you a Keynote file. Just open Keynote, create an empty slide, and add any shape (e.g. a square). Then try to export it using the clipboard, and see if it is vector or bitmap.

  • by The Keynote Guys,

    The Keynote Guys The Keynote Guys Oct 28, 2014 3:46 PM in response to HansSchnier
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    Oct 28, 2014 3:46 PM in response to HansSchnier

    Here is the best way to remove a media asset from a Keynote file.

     

    1) Make sure the individual file is selected

    2) Click Format from the inspector tab

    3) Choose the middle tab under format. It will say either Image/Movie/Whatever type of asset it is.

    4) Under where it says "File Info", drag the icon out to your desktop. You will now have the full, uncompressed file extracted from your Keynote file. (without having to open the package contents) 

  • by HansSchnier,

    HansSchnier HansSchnier Oct 30, 2014 7:07 AM in response to The Keynote Guys
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    Oct 30, 2014 7:07 AM in response to The Keynote Guys

    The Keynote Guys, thanks for replying but you did not understand my question. I am not interesting in "removing a media asset from a Keynote file". What I want to do is use the clipboard to export an image composed directly in Keynote using shapes, arrows, etc (say, a block scheme).  The procedure you describe (Click Format etc) can only be applied to MEDIA files. 

  • by appleuservancouver,

    appleuservancouver appleuservancouver Nov 5, 2014 5:41 PM in response to HansSchnier
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    Nov 5, 2014 5:41 PM in response to HansSchnier

    I am observing the same behaviour. With Yosemite's version of Keynote, I am no longer able to compose a series of elements, copy and paste them into another application while preserving vector qualities. Instead I get a rasterized version, which in most cases is not useful. This is a step backwards.

  • by Kyn Drake,

    Kyn Drake Kyn Drake Nov 5, 2014 7:12 PM in response to HansSchnier
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    Nov 5, 2014 7:12 PM in response to HansSchnier

    I can confirm this is also a problem with Numbers. Anything copied out of the iWork apps appear to lose the ability to be pasted as a .PDF, even in applications that can accept the higher quality .PDF format. (In looking into it, there's additional weirdness I'm seeing related to iWork and the clipboard, but that's for elsewhere).

     

    At this time, the only possible thing you can do to get high quality output from Keynote is to Export as a PDF, then open that and crop it.

     

    Just to help a bit more, when you check Preview for how to crop a PDF, the help is incorrect. The command you're looking for is not

     

    Choose View > Show Edit Toolbar,


    it's


    Choose View > Show Markup Toolbar


    However, I haven't tried to see if you can get PDF's without backgrounds... checking now


    I've also confirmed that Keynote '09 can still produce .PDF's from copied content. And, I am using a MacBook Pro.

  • by Kyn Drake,

    Kyn Drake Kyn Drake Nov 5, 2014 7:30 PM in response to HansSchnier
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    Nov 5, 2014 7:30 PM in response to HansSchnier

    UPDATE:


    Ok, this can work. Use either the black or white theme, and, in Slide Layout set the Background to "No Fill"


    Screen Shot 2014-11-05 at 7.23.08 PM.png


    Then, instead of Export to PDF, do File > Print... and in the Print dialog, make sure "Print slide backgrounds" is on (it defaults to on, just check it) and in the lower right, click the PDF button and choose "Open PDF in Preview"


    Screen Shot 2014-11-05 at 7.25.32 PM.png

     

    You'll open the image you want in Preview, then commence to clipping

  • by HansSchnier,

    HansSchnier HansSchnier Nov 10, 2014 2:56 AM in response to Kyn Drake
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    Nov 10, 2014 2:56 AM in response to Kyn Drake

    Thank you Kyn Drake for the workaround but I am quite shocked by Apple overlooking this. Any of you know how this issue can be brought to their attention?

  • by Kyn Drake,

    Kyn Drake Kyn Drake Nov 11, 2014 8:56 AM in response to HansSchnier
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    Nov 11, 2014 8:56 AM in response to HansSchnier

    TThe best way is within the application's "Keynote" menu. Send feedback.

  • by Kyn Drake,

    Kyn Drake Kyn Drake Nov 11, 2014 1:38 PM in response to HansSchnier
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    Nov 11, 2014 1:38 PM in response to HansSchnier

    I haven't been able to confirm that this is just a MacBook issue. I'll head to an Apple store later today to try.

  • by mv10,

    mv10 mv10 Nov 22, 2014 9:34 AM in response to HansSchnier
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    Nov 22, 2014 9:34 AM in response to HansSchnier

    Dear HansSchnier,

    I have exactly the same problem. Is there any progress in the solution for this issue?

    Regards

  • by Kyn Drake,

    Kyn Drake Kyn Drake Nov 23, 2014 10:46 AM in response to mv10
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    Nov 23, 2014 10:46 AM in response to mv10

    No, no improvement yet. The best so far is to Print as a PDF or to export as Keynote 9, then open the file and copy. I'm HOPING this isn't expected behavior. I'd suggest that you send Feedback inside the Keynote application.

  • by hardy74,

    hardy74 hardy74 Nov 25, 2014 1:07 PM in response to HansSchnier
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    Nov 25, 2014 1:07 PM in response to HansSchnier

    Thanks for opening this thread. I thought I was the only one with this problem.

     

    I just recently started to use Keynote 6.5. I am using it for scientific presentations, so I have to copy a lot of pictures / graphs from pdfs.

    Never had any issues with Keynote 09 but copy/paste a picture from a pdf in preview results in a blurry picture.

    That is extremely annoying and prevents me from using Keynote 6.5.

     

    I have already sent feedback to Apple but I am somehow shocked that after all this time Keynote is still so buggy.

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