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Q: Airport Express "wired client mode"

I own an AirPort Express 802.11n (1st Generation), so the old wall-plug but with 802.11 Draft N. The only thing I want to use it for, is for Airplay. Currently it is connected to my router in "client mode" over wireless, and my receiver is connected to it through the jack-interface. The Airport Express is only 1 meter away from the router.

 

Unfortunately the sound is very often stuttering, and sometimes it is hard to connect to Airplay at all. I will have to reboot my Macbook / router / Airport Express and then it will often work again for a while. In the meanwhile I have replaced my Macbook twice and also have a another router, so I don't think the problem is in one of those components.

 

Since I don't have problems with my wireless connection on my Macbook, I suspect that somehow the wireless connection between the router and the Airport Express is not stable.

 

I've done some research and I believe it is not possible, but I still have to ask: is it possible to have the Airport Express join my existing network using a wire (since it is very close to my router) and then still use it for Airplay? Or does the newest model maybe support this?

MacBook Pro with Retina display, OS X Yosemite (10.10.1)

Posted on Dec 20, 2014 4:12 AM

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  • by CellarDwellr,

    CellarDwellr CellarDwellr Dec 20, 2014 4:26 AM in response to luukburger
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    Dec 20, 2014 4:26 AM in response to luukburger

    Hello!

     

    You are probably correct about the unstable connection. A new Express will not solve this.

     

    Since the router and Express are only 1 meter apart, please for testing purposes connect an Ethernet-cable between them to see if that improves things. If so, you've discovered the cause of your issue.

     

    If not, we can still advise you, specifically to open network ports on your router (portforwarding)

  • by luukburger,

    luukburger luukburger Dec 20, 2014 4:35 AM in response to CellarDwellr
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    Dec 20, 2014 4:35 AM in response to CellarDwellr

    Hi CellarDwellr,

     

    Thanks for your reply, but my question was exactly your suggestion. I believe though, that the Airport Express cannot be in "client mode" over a wire and still use Airplay. It sort of says so in the article below, but I'm confused why this would not be possible, hence my question.

     

    AirPort Express: What is client mode? - Apple Support

     

    Before I go buy a cable, I would like to know this.

     

    Greetings!

  • by CellarDwellr,

    CellarDwellr CellarDwellr Dec 20, 2014 4:44 AM in response to luukburger
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    Dec 20, 2014 4:44 AM in response to luukburger

    I've seen many Airports in my day with a wire, Airplay should work in theory. In practice there are many more possible obstacles via wi-fi, actually, such as wireless interference, incompatibility with network encryption or router firewalls.

     

    I don't see what you're mentioning in the article though, I only see that it should work with a wire.

  • by Bob Timmons,Solvedanswer

    Bob Timmons Bob Timmons Dec 20, 2014 6:00 AM in response to luukburger
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    Dec 20, 2014 6:00 AM in response to luukburger
    is it possible to have the Airport Express join my existing network using a wire (since it is very close to my router) and then still use it for Airplay?

    Apple uses the term "join" to indicate a connection where the Express would connect to another router using a wireless connection.

     

    This might not be intuitive, but if you want to connect the Express to another router using a wired Ethernet connection, the Express willl be configured to create a network.  Name the network anything that you want for now, and assign device and network password. Update to save the settings.

     

    Uverse - Fios Setup.png

     

    Then, use AirPort Utility on your Mac to go back into the settings and simply turn off the wireless function on the Express and Update to save the new setting, if you do not want another wireless network, although having an additional network comes in handy if you have guests on a regular basis.

     

    Screen Shot 2014-12-20 at 7.58.58 AM.png

  • by luukburger,

    luukburger luukburger Dec 20, 2014 7:30 AM in response to Bob Timmons
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    Dec 20, 2014 7:30 AM in response to Bob Timmons

    @CellarDwelr: The article says...

     

    "In client mode, AirPort Express does not offer itself as a wireless access point or use its Ethernet port. As a wireless client, AirPort Express is simply a destination for AirTunes and print jobs. It can join both 802.11b and 802.11g networks, including those using security features such as WEP and WPA-PSK."

     

    @Bob Timmons: I will try what you suggest, but I feel that that would conflict with the quote above that states that the Ethernet port won't be in use. In fact, I just found a stackexchange post that states the same (including an explanation).

     

    http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/9644/why-does-airport-extreme-disable-l an-interfaces-in-client-mode

  • by Bob Timmons,

    Bob Timmons Bob Timmons Dec 20, 2014 7:55 AM in response to luukburger
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    Dec 20, 2014 7:55 AM in response to luukburger

    "In client mode, AirPort Express does not offer itself as a wireless access point or use its Ethernet port. As a wireless client, AirPort Express is simply a destination for AirTunes and print jobs. It can join both 802.11b and 802.11g networks, including those using security features such as WEP and WPA-PSK."

     

    Not sure if you were aware or not, but the "quote" is for the ancient "802.11b/g" AirPort Express, now at least 8+ years old. You have an "802.11n" version of the Express, according to the info that you provided.

     

    If you have purchased your AirPort Express after 2008, then the quote is not correct.

  • by luukburger,

    luukburger luukburger Dec 21, 2014 3:46 AM in response to Bob Timmons
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    Dec 21, 2014 3:46 AM in response to Bob Timmons

    @Bob Timmons:

     

    Thanks a lot, it works! Currently playing music over AirPlay with the AirPort Express connected as a client in to my router over a wire.

     

    Hopefully the stuttering and losing signal will be less now as well, I will evaluate that.