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Q: Apple says Mavericks is UNAVAILABLE!!!

I was on the phone with them today and that’s what the tech rep told me.

He said and I quote “Yosemite is the best operating system we’ve ever made and there’s nothing wrong with it.”

He asked me why I needed Mavericks anyway and that the bad reviews on the app store are from “users, and they don’t know what they’re talking about”. He then went on to say, “the professional reviews are all good!”

So, then I asked if I could buy the thing and he said…No, It’s not available and that I should download Yosemite because it’s better!

 

So there you have it. No more Mavericks.

iMac, OS X Mavericks (10.9.4), 3.06 GHz Intel Core i3

Posted on Jan 12, 2015 6:19 PM

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  • by babowa,

    babowa babowa Jan 15, 2015 11:39 AM in response to notcloudy
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    Jan 15, 2015 11:39 AM in response to notcloudy

    Well, yes and no....... they were selling copied Mac software on ebay long before that. I actually bought what I was led to believe a legitimate Aperture install media (that was expensive in those days - +/- $199) until I figured out (after payment) that the seller emailed a link to some obscure site for a free illegal download and also emailed a registration code which he was selling over and over. I got a refund and he disappeared from ebay - but that is only one example.

     

    The point is that people will try to make a buck any way they can think of if they are so inclined.

  • by Kurt Lang,

    Kurt Lang Kurt Lang Jan 15, 2015 12:07 PM in response to babowa
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    Jan 15, 2015 12:07 PM in response to babowa

    I had bought (quite a while ago, now) a copy of Photoshop for Windows from what appeared to be a legitimate seller. What I got was a burned CD-R with an inkjet printed top that mostly looked like the top of a genuine disk. Obviously from a home or small business disk duplicator. The serial number was just on a strip of paper that was obviously cut out of a sheet. So they were using the same number over and over. It wasn't even a typical U.S. version, but some sort of multi language thing.

     

    Amazingly, the seller had their actual business name and phone number in the eBay ad. I told them they had sold me a counterfeit disk and wanted a refund. The lady I had on the phone sounded genuinely shocked, and was very apologetic. They had me mail back the disk and I did indeed get a PayPal refund for both the disk and the shipping.

     

    In the interim, I had called Adobe to report the counterfeiting. A few days after I received my refund, every single ad by that company (and there were a lot of them) disappeared from eBay. I suspect a major raid happened at their offices.

  • by JoseA. Rodriguez,

    JoseA. Rodriguez JoseA. Rodriguez Jan 15, 2015 2:40 PM in response to imac567
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    Jan 15, 2015 2:40 PM in response to imac567

    ...that's incredible!... "Yosemite " YES or YES... where is the freedom of customers to choose?... probably is time to change. Apple is changing to fast... to bad and worst!

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Jan 15, 2015 3:04 PM in response to JoseA. Rodriguez
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    Jan 15, 2015 3:04 PM in response to JoseA. Rodriguez

    Maybe time to change your habits. I keep a copy of every OSX I purchase in case I wish to go back. Some can't be bothered and when the OSX is removed they do not have those options. I have a copy of Mavericks and all updates are still available, not that I will be going back to it because Mavericks IMHO was simply a beta of Yosemite. Twenty Macs now in the studio running Yosemite and two running Snow Leopard and not a single problem to date. As I say, time for any serious Mac users to change their habits and safeguard themselves against OSXs that they cannot adapt to.

     

    Cheers

     

    Pete

  • by Jeremy Bechtold,

    Jeremy Bechtold Jeremy Bechtold Jan 15, 2015 3:10 PM in response to JoseA. Rodriguez
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    Jan 15, 2015 3:10 PM in response to JoseA. Rodriguez

    this apple philosophy has been a thorn in my side for a few years now. apple's decision to cut any older software the moment something new is out might sound like it makes sense, but if I'm going to "sell" friends and family on the concept that I'm still using a 2006 macbook at home, and that longevity is a key feature and part of the apple investment, I need to be able to ensure that software will be available for it.

     

    the argument over whether something newer is better is completely irrelevant, as if it's no longer available, it doesn't matter how good it was. my macbook at home has only 2gb of ram. I can't add more to it. I cannot upgrade beyond 10.7 because at the time 2gb was too slow to handle the os and I went back to 10.6 with my retail installer. I knew 10.8 was a no from my failed experience with 10.7. because of those issues, and never having a chance to play with the related software (think: iphoto), I cannot update anything else mac-related on that machine apart from itunes or security updates.

     

    IF I decided to push and go to 4gb of "unsupported" ram, I still wouldn't be able to get a copy of iphoto for that machine using my 10.7 system app store.

     

    simply put, I'm fine if they want to retire an app, but they should still make legacy versions available to those of us who cannot afford a new machine or didn't have any problems with a version of an app so chose not to download it at the time and are now stuck with a dinosaur version because NOTHING is available now if you're not on 10.10.

     

    I'm still an apple fan in terms of daily use and usability, but these methods are getting worse and worse. my imac, though last year's model, is still only 8mo old from the sealed box. I have no options to update any other apps within this system without updating the system itself. like in the past, it wouldn't be too troublesome to host the last version for each installed os. so if I were to log in to the app store from my 10.6 system, I should be able to update to anything that still supports that, esp if it was the last version to support that system version.

  • by kahjot,

    kahjot kahjot Jan 15, 2015 3:39 PM in response to Jeremy Bechtold
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    Jan 15, 2015 3:39 PM in response to Jeremy Bechtold

    Jeremy Bechtold wrote:

     

    simply put, I'm fine if they want to retire an app, but they should still make legacy versions available to those of us who cannot afford a new machine or didn't have any problems with a version of an app so chose not to download it at the time and are now stuck with a dinosaur version because NOTHING is available now if you're not on 10.10.

     

    I'm still an apple fan in terms of daily use and usability, but these methods are getting worse and worse. my imac, though last year's model, is still only 8mo old from the sealed box. I have no options to update any other apps within this system without updating the system itself. like in the past, it wouldn't be too troublesome to host the last version for each installed os. so if I were to log in to the app store from my 10.6 system, I should be able to update to anything that still supports that, esp if it was the last version to support that system version.

     

    There is some wiggle room. If I log in to the App Store from Mountain Lion or Mavericks, and want to install an app that has been Yosemitized, the App Store gives me the option of downloading an earlier version, which I have done a few times.

     

    What bothers me far more about the App Store (setting aside what a pain it is to browse the bloated behemoth) is that it updates instances of an application beyond the one on your boot drive. For all of Adobe's faults, and their sometimes half-baked installers, the installers look at your system and prompt you to install on a case by case basis if you have multiple versions or backups of an application installed. This is how an installer SHOULD work. Assuming that every instance of an application should be updated without regard to the OS version on a drive is a horrible flaw in the App Store's updating process.

     

    I keep all my install media and backups of every downloaded update that I might ever need for anything, going back to System 7, but most people don't seem to do that, if these discussions are anything to go by. So last week when the App Store rendered Evernote unusable on two of the four internal drives on my Mac Pro by updating it to an incompatible version, I was able to able to retrieve an earlier version and get Evernote working again. BTW Evernote has ONLY the most recent version available for download on their site, so I'd have been out of luck if I had depended on them to have a few previous versions available for download.

     

    When I have the option of buying directly from a developer rather than from the App Store, I choose that option every time.

  • by imac567,

    imac567 imac567 Jan 15, 2015 4:09 PM in response to kahjot
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    Jan 15, 2015 4:09 PM in response to kahjot

    WOW! I sure stirred up a hornets nest here! (I didn't mean too)

    Let me shift the focus a little if I may and ask this, how about Mountain Lion? If I can't get Mavericks "legally" is 10.8 a better alternative? I know some on here like Yosemite and I respect your opinion, but I've spent a couple of days reading reviews and I just cannot do it! I don't even like the look of the new graphics.

    So how about 10.8?

  • by babowa,Helpful

    babowa babowa Jan 15, 2015 4:31 PM in response to imac567
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    Jan 15, 2015 4:31 PM in response to imac567

    You should be able to buy Mountain Lion (as long as your Mac came with that or an earlier OS so it can boot from it):

     

    http://store.apple.com/us/product/D6377Z/A/os-x-mountain-lion

     

    They'll email you a redemption code I believe.

     

    I still use it with my video/movie apps as they work only marginally with mavericks and not at all with Yosemite.

  • by kahjot,Helpful

    kahjot kahjot Jan 15, 2015 6:18 PM in response to imac567
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    Jan 15, 2015 6:18 PM in response to imac567

    Get yourself an 8GB flash drive, download Diskmaker X and use it to to make yourself a Mountain Lion installer on the flash drive.

     

    Once you have purchased Mountain Lion, you will get two e-mails. One will have a locked PDF as an attachment. The other, if I remember correctly, contains the key you need to enter to unlock the PDF, which has your redemption code. From there, you go to the App Store (main screen) and look for Quick Links on the right. One of the options under Quick Links is Redeem; from there you can enter the code and then download ML. Once the download finishes, the installer (called Install OS Mountain Lion.app) launches itself from its location in your Applications folder. At this point, do not proceed with the installation. Quit the Install app, then option-drag it to copy it to a different location outside of your Applications folder for safekeeping. Make the flash drive. Back up the drive you plan to upgrade. Then re-launch the Mountain Lion installer application and let it run. It will delete itself when it's done.

  • by imac567,

    imac567 imac567 Jan 15, 2015 6:59 PM in response to kahjot
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    Jan 15, 2015 6:59 PM in response to kahjot

    Sounds easy enough. Can I install it on our other iMac also? In other words, is it good for multiple uses?

  • by babowa,

    babowa babowa Jan 15, 2015 7:18 PM in response to imac567
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    Jan 15, 2015 7:18 PM in response to imac567

    Any OS (or app) obtained at the app store can be installed on as many Macs as YOU own and control (You being the Apple ID used to obtain it). It is, however, not transferable.

  • by notcloudy,

    notcloudy notcloudy Jan 16, 2015 6:53 AM in response to babowa
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    Jan 16, 2015 6:53 AM in response to babowa

    At the time of your purchase it was a choice to buy media outside of the apple store.

     

    Now one can't get it at all and one problem is most of the updates after Snow Leopard for me were the equivalent of Garage Band - never used it.

     

    Considering that IHOME is suppose to be in the works - to link with wi-fi thermostats etc -- can you really trust APPLE -- gee sorry your fridge is no longer supported - so you have to buy a new one.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Jan 16, 2015 7:06 AM in response to notcloudy
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    Jan 16, 2015 7:06 AM in response to notcloudy

    notcloudy wrote:

     

    At the time of your purchase it was a choice to buy media outside of the apple store.

    It still is.

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