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Q: set iphoto library permissions for multiple users

i tried and give permission to each user on my mac to access the iphoto library which is in a share folder. however, each time a different user tries and opens the library, iphoto says it needs to repair permission and then ends up setting the permission for only the last user who accessed the library. i DO NOT want to move it to an external drive as I want to carry it on my mac wherever I go.

 

i dont understand why setting read and write permissions is not working for it. can someone tell me a good way to deal with this. a single library manages all my family member's personal and share photos.

MacBook Air, OS X Yosemite (10.10), 13 inch, i5, 256 GB SSD, 2013

Posted on Jan 28, 2015 12:37 AM

by Terence Devlin,Solvedanswer
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A:

There is no good way to deal with it, outside of using an external, set to ignore ownership and permissions.

 

You could try putting the Library on a disk image, set to ignore ownership and permissions, but there is no guarantee that this will work.

 

An iPhoto Library is a database built on a complex ecosystem of interlocking files, databases and metadata. The Finder's permissions are of no relevance at all here. Simply, iPhoto is designed for a single user. It's not a server, and the only way to get it to share is to move it to another disk.

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  • by AceNeerav,

    AceNeerav AceNeerav Jan 28, 2015 11:56 AM in response to léonie
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    Jan 28, 2015 11:56 AM in response to léonie

    léonie Its single user design is in itself the flaw. iPhoto for mac is a computer app. Computers can be shared among users especially in a family. if Apple wanted to let users have a a private photo library (which is very good) there should be a way to have a public one as well, shared among users.

     

    Now I know you might ask me to simply have another library and option-click at launch to select it, but a good design would be letting users to swtich between a private and a shared library from within the app.


    This would also let users quickly move files between a private and a public library, which is impossible at the moment without help from paid 3rd party apps like iPhoto library manager.

     

    LarryHN i am pretty sure nothing will change cause there are people over here who are minions and would accept anything thrown their way. its users like me who made Microsoft fall and apple rise, cause we made the switch for something better. and if things become stagnant again, we wont mind switching to something else. rest of us love Apple products just as some of you do but we refuse to be iSlaves.

     

    Apple is a great company, but not my religion.

     

    In any case, you spoiled the whole thread focused on finding a non documented alternative by your unnecessary complaints about supposed 'yelling and tantrums'. if u seek to help then know that people come over here when google fails. so expect desperation.

     

    Terence Devlin, léonie, thanks for your help. do u think it will be a good idea to manage photos in a finder folder and have them sync to ios devices. i dont really need to use iphoto on mac for anything else but storing photos in one place. all the little enhancements and editing i need can be done from my ios device. will the changes sync back? is it a good idea in general? thanks.

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Jan 28, 2015 12:09 PM in response to AceNeerav
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    Jan 28, 2015 12:09 PM in response to AceNeerav
    if Apple wanted to let users have a a private photo library (which is very good) there should be a way to have a public one as well, shared among users.

    But would you be willing to pay the horrendous prices that are charged for shared libraries? Part of the design decision was to make the application affordable.

     

    Apple lets you share all kinds of documents in your shared folders, no problem.  Just not databases.

  • by Terence Devlin,

    Terence Devlin Terence Devlin Jan 28, 2015 12:10 PM in response to AceNeerav
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    Jan 28, 2015 12:10 PM in response to AceNeerav
    Its single user design is in itself the flaw.


    If you want to have different user accounts on your machine it's because you want to keep your data separate from other users. That's the point of user accounts. If you don't, then use a single account. Apple do point out  a mechanism for sharing that works around your requirement to keep data separate and I suggested an alternative. You choose not to use them. Why not demand a shared Address Book?


    There are server applications that will do what you want. They start at about $200. The are expensive specifically because managing the access privileges is very complex, as is the versioning. Why you would expect the same capability in a give-away app I have no idea. Your characterisation of people who understand these things as 'iSlaves' is unfortunate. We could just as easily characterise you as 'iClueless' but what good would that do? Really, that's the kind of thjng that gets people's backs up - and you really don't wan tot do that when you're asking for their help.

  • by AceNeerav,

    AceNeerav AceNeerav Jan 28, 2015 1:00 PM in response to Terence Devlin
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    Jan 28, 2015 1:00 PM in response to Terence Devlin

    Terence Devlin i have remembered seeing u around since 2008 when i made my first post. that iSlave wasnt meant for u or many others who help. it was for some people who want to put off the discussion all together.

     

    as a developer (iOS) i totally understand what sandboxing is. and i see why it would be required to keep things private. as i explained above, the ability to switch between libraries (private to the user and public ones, and not those of other uses) should be within the app. iPhoto is 9 versions down and i am sure a whole bunch of users would have asked for it.

     

    i never asked any question in the first post. i just opened up a 'discussion'. i guess the person at apple who thought of calling these forums as 'discussions' had much more than questions and answers in mind, for these forums.

     

    the only reason i have multiple user accounts on my mac is because the other two members in my family (my parents) need to be able to sync their apps (all managed by me) with itunes and their ios devices without a glitch. they don't use the computer At All. they are naive gadget users who have to keep asking me stuff to get done on the ios device as well. i was forced to create a user account for them cause itunes links with only one app store id from a given user account on the mac, to sync, backup and restore ios devices correctly. i solved the itunes dilemma by keeping a shared reference media folder and individual libraries in the user accounts' home folders.

     

    and thats where iphoto comes into the picture.i have to keep it on my mac as i dont want to be carrying an external drive around. sharing it has problems with permissions. and option-clicking to open a individual or shared library is a bit of a juggling act. so i guess i am left with managing photos in a folder in finder. which isn't very elegant without the tools iphoto has to offer. but anyway. i have no option.

     

    but one thing about iphoto being a give-away app. Please don't buy into such a notion! Apple is covering up for the cost of all the 'free' products it gives via the sale of its associated hardware. nothing is free. i dont want to be a smart a** explaining business and economics to a matured person like you, but you would know being a savvy person that free services and products generate indirect revenue. Most importantly... I remember paying for the app when it was launched on the app store.

     

    Thanks.

  • by LarryHN,

    LarryHN LarryHN Jan 28, 2015 1:18 PM in response to AceNeerav
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    Jan 28, 2015 1:18 PM in response to AceNeerav

    Amazing that of some one who knows everything to not be able to understand simple concepts - There is no charge for iPhoto on a new Mac - it is included with the Mac - by your logic every chip on the circuit board, every pixel on the screen and every disk on the hard drive is "sold" to the user - that is to the case - the user purchases a system and it included many complonents- - and if you paid for iphoto at the App store then it was for an optional upgrade that you chose to make

     

    And you also con not under the very simple concept that the four is for volunteer experienced users to help inexperienced users - it is not to speculate on Apple Policies or why they do things (in fact hat is forbidden) and it s not to suggest changes or improvements - it is simply for people who want to help to do so - and unfortunately once (in a great while lucky) a crazy one comes by and insults the volunteers, and throws tantrums when they do not get their way - those are not needed and it is best if they just go aways since they accomplish nothing and clog up the forums with trash

     

    Have a nice life

     

    LN

  • by Terence Devlin,

    Terence Devlin Terence Devlin Jan 28, 2015 2:05 PM in response to AceNeerav
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    Jan 28, 2015 2:05 PM in response to AceNeerav
    i never asked any question in the first post. i just opened up a 'discussion'

     

     

    Hmmm. Last line of your first post:

     

    can someone tell me a good way to deal with this. a single library manages all my family member's personal and share photos.


    Certainly reads like a request, no?

     

    that iSlave wasnt meant for u or many others who help. it was for some people...

     

    The point is that it shouldn't be there for anybody.

     

    The forum term of use are quite clear. It's to ask and answer technical questions. It's explicitly stated that they are not for discussing Apple policies.

     

    iPhoto comes free with every Mac. You may have chosen to buy an Update at some point, that was your choice. The most you paid for it was $15. Again, not sure why you would expect a $15 app to have the capabilities of a $200 one.

  • by AceNeerav,

    AceNeerav AceNeerav Jan 28, 2015 10:44 PM in response to Terence Devlin
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    Jan 28, 2015 10:44 PM in response to Terence Devlin

    A GUI that links to two databases and shows them in a single windos, like in another tab, shouldnt cost $185 more. I just think apple hasnt wprked on improving iphoto for a long time.

     

    ANyway, i guess this conversation is no longer constructive. Ill try the dmg method and see if it works.

     

    THanks.

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