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Q: Best way to prepare iPhoto 8.1.2 for OS upgrade

I have an iMac (purchased 2010) still running OSX 10.6.8 and I have iPhoto ‘09 Version 8.1.2.  My library contains 18,000 pictures and is 41 GB. I’ve scanned lots of old slides and I don’t want to lose all my labeling of photos.  I have Time Machine doing automatic backups.  And I also have an additional external hard drive to which I could copy my iPhoto Library.

 

I need to load some income tax software but my operating system is too old.  I need to upgrade, but I’ve read enough to be scared of the possible consequences to iPhoto.

 

I am so reluctant to upgrade to Yosemite at this point that I am considering Mountain Lion, which is still available from Apple.

 

Will iPhoto 8.1.2 work with Mountain Lion?

 

What steps can I take before upgrading the OS to ensure I have a smooth transition and can recover from any problems encountered?

 

What will I need to do in iPhoto after upgrading the operating system?

 

I need very clear and specific instructions since my understanding of how all this works is very tenuous. Thanks so much!

iMac, Mac OS X (10.6.5)

Posted on Jan 31, 2015 11:09 AM

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  • by LarryHN,

    LarryHN LarryHN Jan 31, 2015 11:20 AM in response to Medley
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    Jan 31, 2015 11:20 AM in response to Medley

    1 - yes

     

    2 - be sure to have a very good, tested backup

     

    3 - nothing

     

    LN

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Jan 31, 2015 11:26 AM in response to Medley
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    Jan 31, 2015 11:26 AM in response to Medley
    What steps can I take before upgrading the OS to ensure I have a smooth transition and can recover from any problems encountered?

    Don't make any major upgrade without making a full backup of Mac. If you are using Time Machine, quit iPhoto, to ensure that you will get a full backup of the library, and let Time Machine make a full backup of your mac. Make a second copy of your iPhoto Library by dragging it to your external drive.

    I am so reluctant to upgrade to Yosemite at this point that I am considering Mountain Lion, which is still available from Apple.

     

    Will iPhoto 8.1.2 work with Mountain Lion?

    Yes, iPhoto 8.1.2 works with Mt. Lion, but it is always easier to upgrade to the current system, because the application updates at the App Store are best supported for the most recent MacOS X version.

     

    If you upgrade to a new iPhoto version, let iPhoto run a repair of your iPhoto Library before you upgrade  (iPhoto 6 and later: Rebuilding the iPhoto library). This will ensure, that upgrading the library to a new iPhoto version is less likely to have problems.

  • by Medley,Helpful

    Medley Medley Feb 1, 2015 8:55 AM in response to léonie
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    Feb 1, 2015 8:55 AM in response to léonie

    Thanks very much for responding.

     

    With regard to letting iPhoto repair my iPhoto Library:  I looked at the link you provided and the only reference I see to Repair (the first option listed in the dialog box) is the last bullet:

     

    In iPhoto '11, select the option to "Repair the iPhoto Library Database" to check the iPhoto Library database for inconsistencies and repair them, if necessary.   iPhoto '11 also includes the option to "Rebuild the iPhoto Library Database from automatic backup," which performs the same functions as it does in iPhoto '09, but should only be attempted if the "Repair the iPhoto Library Database" option does not help.

     

    To me, the implication is that the Repair option does not apply to iPhoto ’09.  Am I misinterpreting something?

     

    A more general question about Repair:  obviously with any computer operation there is a potential for problems.  How risky is doing a repair?  What unforeseen consequences might I have to cope with?

     

    You refer to running the repair before upgrading to a new version of iPhoto but not before upgrading the OS—is that correct?

     

    It looks to me like the only option for upgrading iPhoto is the new free downloadable version but that only works with MacOS X 10.10—so it would not work with Mountain Lion.  Am I correct that versions of iPhoto between my 8.1.2 and 9.6 are not available?  And therefore I cannot upgrade iPhoto until I have Yosemite?


    Thanks for bearing with me--this is generating a lot of anxiety

  • by Old Toad,

    Old Toad Old Toad Feb 1, 2015 10:26 AM in response to Medley
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    Feb 1, 2015 10:26 AM in response to Medley

    With iPhoto 8.1.2 (09) here's what I'd run before upgrading:

    iPhotorebuild.PNG

    Run all 3.  Option #4 is necessary in case there's no previous backup. Then when you upgrade to Yosemite and iPhoto 9.6 just launch iPhoto and it will update the library to the latest version and structure.

    OTsig.png

  • by Medley,

    Medley Medley Feb 2, 2015 6:01 AM in response to Old Toad
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    Feb 2, 2015 6:01 AM in response to Old Toad

    Thanks for adding more information. 

     

    I want to be very sure I understand what you mean.

     

    I’m assuming that if I hold down the Command and Option keys and open iPhoto version 8.1.2, the dialog box I get will actually look what you have posted rather than what is in the Apple document cited earlier. 

     

    You say “Option #4 is necessary in case there’s no previous backup.”  Am I correct that Option #4 refers to the fourth check box:  Examine and repair iPhoto Library file permissions?   The very first step is to make a backup of the iPhoto Library.  Is the examination and repair of permissions a different kind of backup?

     

    You say the 6th box is used for Faces and Places.  If these are features I do not use, do you still advise running this item?

     

    Should I click all 3 of the boxes at once or is it better to run one and then the next?

     

    You mention Yosemite and iPhoto 9.6 but as I mentioned in my original posting, I am planning to upgrade to Mountain Lion at this point.  Would I be correct that you recommend running these items before any OS upgrade?  And before any iPhoto upgrade as well?

     

    Thanks so much for your help.

  • by Old Toad,Helpful

    Old Toad Old Toad Feb 2, 2015 8:32 AM in response to Medley
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    Feb 2, 2015 8:32 AM in response to Medley

    Click all 3 at the same time and run.  That should clean up the databases and give the new iPhoto a cleaner library to upgrade. Just be aware of the recommendation circled in the window.

  • by Medley,

    Medley Medley Feb 4, 2015 12:00 PM in response to Old Toad
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    Feb 4, 2015 12:00 PM in response to Old Toad

    Panic time!  I just ran the 3 recommended steps and I now have only 5523 pictures instead of nearly 18,000.  It appears to me that I have nothing either taken digitally or scanned from slides since 2011. 

     

    What do I do now?

  • by Old Toad,

    Old Toad Old Toad Feb 4, 2015 12:07 PM in response to Medley
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    Feb 4, 2015 12:07 PM in response to Medley

    Revert to the backup copy of the library made prior to running those 3 First Air routines

     

    Screen Shot 2015-02-04 at 12.07.23 PM.jpg

     

    and rebuild the library with the free version of  iPhoto Library Manager

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Feb 4, 2015 12:08 PM in response to Medley
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    Feb 4, 2015 12:08 PM in response to Medley
    Panic time!  I just ran the 3 recommended steps and I now have only 5523 pictures instead of nearly 18,000.

    Check, if you now have a "Recovered items" folder in your iPhoto library. iphoto  will collect photos, that it cannot identify as belonging to an edited version, in a recovered items event.

  • by Medley,

    Medley Medley Feb 4, 2015 12:24 PM in response to léonie
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    Feb 4, 2015 12:24 PM in response to léonie

    No I don't see a "Recovered items" folder anywhere.  At this point, is your advice the same as Old Toad's?

  • by Medley,

    Medley Medley Feb 4, 2015 12:27 PM in response to Old Toad
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    Feb 4, 2015 12:27 PM in response to Old Toad

    I have never had to recover anything from Time Machine before. 

     

    I assume I would select Restore All and say Yes when asked if I want to replace my iPhoto Library--??

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Feb 4, 2015 12:28 PM in response to Medley
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    Feb 4, 2015 12:28 PM in response to Medley

    If you do not have a "Recovered Items" folder, yes.  Do, as Old Toad recommended.

  • by Old Toad,

    Old Toad Old Toad Feb 4, 2015 2:35 PM in response to Medley
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    Feb 4, 2015 2:35 PM in response to Medley

    iP9.6TMlibrestore.png

  • by Medley,

    Medley Medley Feb 5, 2015 12:01 PM in response to Old Toad
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    Feb 5, 2015 12:01 PM in response to Old Toad

    Confusion reigns. Please forgive so many questions but I am trying not to do anything stupid. Also sorry I cannot seem to paste in screen shots to my post so I have to resort to descriptions

     

    I restored my iPhoto Library from the Time Machine backup.  However:

     

    1. I have a copy of iPhoto Library Manager version 3.2.4 already on my machine.  I believe I downloaded it years ago (following instructions in a Missing Manual book) in order to be able to move the iPhoto Library to a Shared folder so that two Users on the same iMac could access iPhoto.

     

    Can I use iPhoto Library Manager version 3.2.4 to do the rebuild?  The FatCat website seems to indicate the version I have is still viable. However, when I open iPhoto Library Manager and check for upgrades, I get an error message it cannot upgrade because it “Encountered unknown tag html on line 2.”

     

    Is this a problem?

     

    2. When I open iPhoto Library Manager, it lists two iPhoto Library Folders.  There is the one I would expect to see located in /Users/Shared/iPhotoLibrary, which has appropriate albums listed and says Version 8.1.2.

     

    The other folder is located in /Users/Medley/Pictures/iPhotoLibrary, lists only 3 Albums called Library, Last Roll and Last 12 Months and says version 6.0.5. This looks like a remnant from an earlier version of iPhoto??  Do I need to be concerned about it?

     

    3.  iPhoto Library Recovered Photos.  Yes, I do have such a file BUT it contains only 212 items all modified in 2011.  So this file was not generated by yesterday’s attempt to rebuild.  I spot checked and these pictures all seem to be in iPhoto. Can I (should I) delete this folder and its contents?

     

    4.  When I opened iPhoto after restoring from back-up, all Events and Photos appear to be there but the most recent Event is a combination of the same photos that were in the two previously loaded Events.  Is this anything to worry about or can I just delete it?

     

    Again many thanks for bearing with all my questions and many many thanks for your help this far.

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