BigBobMcGillicuddy

Q: airdrop between iOS 8 & Yosemite

Has anyone seen documentation detailing which Mac models running Yosemite will be able to airdrop to iOS 8?  For example, will some of the older Macbook models which can run Yosemite be unable to do this function?

Posted on Oct 17, 2014 6:07 AM

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  • by criquet,

    criquet criquet Feb 15, 2015 8:16 PM in response to BigBobMcGillicuddy
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    Feb 15, 2015 8:16 PM in response to BigBobMcGillicuddy

    Turn your firewall off and see if it works. If it does, you are blocking an application that needs to accept incoming connections. Try allowing sharingd

  • by serges14,

    serges14 serges14 Feb 16, 2015 10:30 PM in response to criquet
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    Feb 16, 2015 10:30 PM in response to criquet

    Just another "prerequisite" on a mid-2012 Mac: it also seems necessary that a receiving folder for bluetooth incomings should be defined on the Mac: Mac Setting -> Shared Access (or however it is called in English) -> Bluetooth shared access

  • by BubbaDude661,

    BubbaDude661 BubbaDude661 Feb 22, 2015 3:18 PM in response to serges14
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    Feb 22, 2015 3:18 PM in response to serges14

    It seems to me that the only sensible thing to do is take my late 2013 rMBP and my iPhone 6+ to the Apple store, hand them to one of the geniuses and say "You claim it just works, so make it happen, genius".

     

    If enough people do that the people who work in the stores will riot and Apple will be forced to fix it. It's amazing to see so many people wasting so much time in an effort to make Apple live up to their claims.

     

    UPDATE: As soon as I posted this, I got a successful AirDrop. Hmmmm....

  • by MarkusSpeicher,

    MarkusSpeicher MarkusSpeicher Mar 18, 2015 5:32 AM in response to BigBobMcGillicuddy
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    Mar 18, 2015 5:32 AM in response to BigBobMcGillicuddy

    Having the same problem with my MBP mid 2012 and iPhone 6 plus. I can see the phone from Mac, but I can not see the Mac on the iPhone for Airdrop e.g. in Photo app.

    Now I added a 3rd device an iPhone 5c, all with the same iCloud account. Now when I want to share a picture from iPhone5c, I can finally see the Mac on the iPhone 6 plus too. When I disable the 5c, the Mac is still visible in the Airdrop part in Photo App on the 6 plus. Very strange, both devices are on iOS 8.2 and Mac on 10.10.2. So it is a discovery issue which gets solved when adding the iPhone 5c. But I can only send from iPhone 6plus to the Mac, when the iPhone5c is on. I don't understand this anymore.

  • by BubbaDude661,

    BubbaDude661 BubbaDude661 Mar 18, 2015 9:40 AM in response to MarkusSpeicher
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    Mar 18, 2015 9:40 AM in response to MarkusSpeicher

    It turns out my problem has to do with my dual band Wi-Fi access point. AirDrop only works when both devices are on the same network, and I found that the Mac was on the 802.11ac channel band while the iPhone was on 802.11n. When I forced the iPhone to forget 802.11n, it roamed onto 802.11ac and AirDrop worked.

     

    There are also potential issues with firewalls; the Apple firewall works better than Norton, although it can be annoying.

  • by tecsi12,

    tecsi12 tecsi12 Mar 18, 2015 9:56 AM in response to BubbaDude661
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    Mar 18, 2015 9:56 AM in response to BubbaDude661

    So Apple, we merely need to be aware of which band all our devices are operating on, and then switch to the lowest common denominator to make everything work?

     

    Can't wait to see the Apple Watch not connect over WiFi for the same reason.

  • by William Lloyd,

    William Lloyd William Lloyd Mar 18, 2015 10:14 AM in response to tecsi12
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    Mar 18, 2015 10:14 AM in response to tecsi12

    Normally, no, you wouldn't need to know what band you're operating on.

     

    But if you do have your wireless router set up in some odd setup where it is broadcasting two separate networks, and devices are on different networks, then yes that would be a problem.

     

    How can Apple control if you do something that physically puts the devices on separate networks? That's not under their control.

     

    Use an Airport or a Time Capsule and don't have a separate 5 GHz network name, and this won't be a problem.

  • by BubbaDude661,

    BubbaDude661 BubbaDude661 Mar 18, 2015 10:29 AM in response to William Lloyd
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    Mar 18, 2015 10:29 AM in response to William Lloyd

    Apple could route AirDrop requests at the IP level instead of using Wi-Fi direct connect. I like to name my 11n and 11ac networks with different SSIDs to I know what band I'm using, a fairly normal practice. All my devices are on the same IP subnet, so a subnet broadcast followed by a UDP transfer would work fine.

     

    Apple isn't too swift at networking.

  • by William Lloyd,

    William Lloyd William Lloyd Mar 18, 2015 10:35 AM in response to BubbaDude661
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    Mar 18, 2015 10:35 AM in response to BubbaDude661

    It's not a "fairly normal practice." I'd assume fewer than 0.1% of people will do that to their network.

     

    And if you do, you should be smart enough to figure out why things that expect to be on the same network can't talk to one another

  • by BubbaDude661,

    BubbaDude661 BubbaDude661 Mar 18, 2015 10:40 AM in response to William Lloyd
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    Mar 18, 2015 10:40 AM in response to William Lloyd

    OK, even though I was one of the people who invented Wi-Fi in the early 90s and then contributed the frame aggregation technique that doubled throughput for 11n, I know nothing about Wi-Fi.

     

    Thanks for clearing that up.

  • by William Lloyd,

    William Lloyd William Lloyd Mar 18, 2015 10:57 AM in response to BubbaDude661
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    Mar 18, 2015 10:57 AM in response to BubbaDude661

    Look. You're the one that kept saying that Airdrop didn't work, when IN FACT the problem was that the machines couldn't see each other because they were on different networks. And they were on different networks because you configured them that way.

     

    You can talk all day about how you helped invent Wi-Fi, but the fact is, that even you couldn't put together cause and effect when some specific configuration decisions that you yourself made caused the problem.

     

    I also believe that AirDrop itself uses Wi-Fi direct for the communications (i.e. the traffic itself is P2P and doesn't go through the AP), but it may be that an AP is necessary for initial discovery in some way.

  • by thirdeyeblind82,

    thirdeyeblind82 thirdeyeblind82 Apr 9, 2015 12:33 AM in response to BigBobMcGillicuddy
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    Apr 9, 2015 12:33 AM in response to BigBobMcGillicuddy

    Same problem here!

    I so tired to have new features from Apple that never work properly at the end! It happens to me all the time!

    Personally I have an iphone just cause my macbook, but you have to admit that sharing things in android is the easiest thing ever!

     

    That said, hope somebody found a solution...

  • by soffici,

    soffici soffici Apr 29, 2015 1:36 AM in response to BigBobMcGillicuddy
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    Apr 29, 2015 1:36 AM in response to BigBobMcGillicuddy

    They need to fire the idiot who implemented this feature

    And find a competent person to replace him/her

  • by Stringray,

    Stringray Stringray Jun 9, 2015 11:23 AM in response to BigBobMcGillicuddy
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    Jun 9, 2015 11:23 AM in response to BigBobMcGillicuddy

    I just tried to send a video from my wife's iPhone 5S to my Macbook Pro 13 Retina (2013). It didn't work. The iPhone doesn't see my Mac and my Mac doesn't see the iPhone. Tried it all. Crap... :-(

  • by Fawn Allen,

    Fawn Allen Fawn Allen Sep 3, 2015 8:59 AM in response to soffici
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    Sep 3, 2015 8:59 AM in response to soffici

    Yes and how do we get Apple to pay attention to the request, nay, demand by customers to FIX THIS FEATURE! We want it...they need to find a way to give it to us! C'mon Apple - iPhone team...do it this year PLEASE!

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